2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

[rolltidefan]

Ohio State, which is good at offense and bad at defense, turned in it's fourth-worst offensive day today.

ORoberts is good at offense and bad at defense, and Ohio State held the Eagles to their sixth-worst offensive day in 27 games. Sports are stupid as hell.

seems like scores are down across the board for the tournament.

also, nd didn't make tourney, and clemson/tosu both got tossed in round 1. cfb playoff teams not doing so well in roundball tourney. should i be worried?

[medinabuckeye1]

seems like scores are down across the board for the tournament.

also, nd didn't make tourney, and clemson/tosu both got tossed in round 1. cfb playoff teams not doing so well in roundball tourney. should i be worried?

They are a two seed so I see them as a lot like Ohio State, probably not good enough to win it all but good enough that they could get hot and make the final Four but yet suspect enough that they could get cold and lose an opening round game. 

[ELA]

Hm, so Pac 12 basketball huh?

I guess moral victory for taking UCLA to OT, instead of getting slaughtered like Tennessee and Georgetown did

[ELA]

Watching Florida State attack the rim, and dominate the paint is so much more enjoyable than watching 5 out basketball

[MaximumSam]

I'm watching this big bearded guy for Eastern Washington just wear out Kansas

[bayareabadger]

Watching Florida State attack the rim, and dominate the paint is so much more enjoyable than watching 5 out basketball

I watchedbNorth Carolina try to do that yesterday, and let me tell you, I did enjoy it

[bayareabadger]

I get this and it is why I use past history to project performance.

It is overly simplistic to just say that #1's should make the F4, #2's should make the E8, #3's and #4's should make the S16, and #5's through #8's should make the R32. Instead, I use past performance. It is of very limited utility when looking at one team but when looking at the nine B1G teams it should work reasonably well.

A highly seeded team getting upset can be compensated for by a low seed pulling off an upset.

If Wisconsin and Rutgers take out Baylor and Houston then the embarrassing tOSU and Purdue upsets will be made up for.

I tend to think about these in terms of individual rather than conference elements for whatever reason. I think it might be because a team like Iowa (or maybe Ohio State) sees a 2 seed and thinks "maybe final four" not, "one in three chance we won't make the second weekend." That second stat is a little wild.

[ELA]

I watchedbNorth Carolina try to do that yesterday, and let me tell you, I did enjoy it

It's certainly the "wrong" way to play.  Just like trying to generate a run in baseball is, but I still find both more enjoyable than what the numbers tell us is the way to play.

[bayareabadger]

It's certainly the "wrong" way to play.  Just like trying to generate a run in baseball is, but I still find both more enjoyable than what the numbers tell us is the way to play.

I tend to think it's about doing something well. Like, if you can slash and bully ball well, it's fun as hell, but it's harder to get there. But even a mediocre version of it is hard on the eyes. (If UNC had more skilled bigs or especially guards, they would be fun)

Granted, I've spent 15 years watching a version of five-out and respecting the value of a late clock pick and pop 3 because my less-talented teams just kinda had to do it. And since then, the whole sport has started doing certain things more like Bo Ryan, for better or worse. 

I think the spread offense in college/HS is a kinda interesting counterpart. A college spread has a higher ceiling than a power run/WCO or option team, but each is beautiful in its own way. It's a little different because power ball on the hard wood isn't really an underdog tactic exactly, it's just more unusual nowadays. But there are some parallels. (HS is different because the best teams are almost always spread, but if you're middling or bad in terms of talent, you're much better off going power to get the most out of the pieces. Bad HS spreads are BAD to watch)

[bayareabadger]

I'm watching this big bearded guy for Eastern Washington just wear out Kansas

I think this crystallized something for me about the tournament and the enjoyably factor. We have our annual discussion of the midgets, and i think this sort of speaks to it.

Kansas won by 9. It wasn't heavily threatened for the final five or so minutes. But there's something inherently more interesting about some random school with weird looking brothers (or something like that) pushing Kansas as compared to 17-15 IU or something. Colgate leading Arkansas when it did makes for a more enjoyable game of ball, even if the upsets are perhaps less frequent. 

[CatsbyAZ]

Hm, so Pac 12 basketball huh?

I guess moral victory for taking UCLA to OT, instead of getting slaughtered like Tennessee and Georgetown did

And Oregon is likely underseeded Vs VCU and USC favored later tonight. Quite possible all 5 Pac 12 berths earning tournament wins. Colorado looked amazing but I doubt that lasts Vs a very athletic and outsized Florida St team next round. 

[ELA]

And Oregon is likely underseeded Vs VCU and USC favored later tonight. Quite possible all 5 Pac 12 berths earning tournament wins. Colorado looked amazing but I doubt that lasts Vs a very athletic and outsized Florida St team next round.

A team that made like 20 threes vs. a team that made zero.

[medinabuckeye1]

I tend to think about these in terms of individual rather than conference elements for whatever reason. I think it might be because a team like Iowa (or maybe Ohio State) sees a 2 seed and thinks "maybe final four" not, "one in three chance we won't make the second weekend." That second stat is a little wild.

Yeah, the percentage chance thing isn't terribly useful for one team in one year. I use it for a conference with a bunch of teams in or for one team over a number of years.

[Kris60]

Eastern Washington was a different bunch.  They had the brothers, who were unique looking dudes.  I also noticed the guys on the bench seemed to never sit down.  I didn’t watch the entire game but watched all of the first half and they were standing every time I saw them.

They also did the old school “De-Fense! (Clap, clap) De-Fense! (Clap, clap)” cheer.  I’ve seen fans and cheerleaders do that but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team do it.  And they did it every possession.  It looked like something out of a Disney movie that you would laugh at because it doesn’t happen in real life.

I also noticed whenever Kansas was inbounding the ball the entire bench was bouncing up and down waving their arms like you would if you were guarding the inbounder.  Idk.  Definitely unique.  I wondered if with the lack of fans this year if that was their way of generating excitement and energy.