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ELA

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #364 on: November 24, 2020, 02:21:46 PM »
Did Foster play much? I was reading his role the past couple years was Winston's backup... Looking at stats, it seems his and Cassius' minutes split add up to almost exactly 40. I wonder if he just had bigger competition at the other guard positions and so he was the PG backup instead?

A lot of us were surprised that MSU didn't offer. Michigan, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Utah, and Mizzou rounded out his final 6 along with Purdue. So it's not like he's some unknown that didn't have any good offers.

I'm wondering if it was just flat out known up front that he wasn't interested in MSU. Maybe he is the type that just doesn't want to be known in the program as Foster Loyer's little [taller] brother.

Of course it's also possible that MSU just has their eyes on bigger targets.
He couldn't stay on the court.  He shot the ball well enough, but if you pressured him, he panicked, turned it over, and defensively he was awful.  I thought (particularly as Watts improved late in the season), they should have tried to buy him more minutes off ball when Watts was on the court.  Winston was a subpar defender, so you couldn't play them together, but Watts was bigger, and a better defender, so you could afford to.

Izzo tried to sneak him in when there was a stoppage close to a TV timeout, to give him a minute or two, and work that into the TV timeout to give Winston a longer rest.  And there were times it went so poorly MSU had to call a timeout because they couldn't afford to wait any longer.  I know the game against Northwestern immediately comes to mind, and there were at least a handful of others.  The Northwestern game, he came in, missed a 3, had a turnover, and allowed his man to score on 4 straight possessions, and the lead went from like 16 to 5 in like 90 seconds, and MSU had to call a timeout to get him out

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #365 on: November 25, 2020, 08:16:50 AM »
Schedule today

McNeese at Nebraska, Noon, BTN
NC A&T at Illinois, 2 pm, BTN
Illinois St. at OSU, 2 pm, ESPN
Old Dominion at MAryland, 2 pm
North Carolina Central at Iowa, 4 pm, BTN
Bowling Green at Michigam 4 pm, ESPN2
Eastern Michigan at MSU, 6 pm, BTN
Liberty at Purdue, 6 pm, CBSSN
Sacred Heart at Rutgers, 7 pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 7 pm
Tennessee Tech at Indiana, 8 pm, BTN
Eastern Illinois at Wisconsin, 10 pm, BTN


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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #366 on: November 25, 2020, 08:38:55 AM »
Schedule today

McNeese at Nebraska, Noon, BTN
NC A&T at Illinois, 2 pm, BTN
Illinois St. at OSU, 2 pm, ESPN
Old Dominion at MAryland, 2 pm
North Carolina Central at Iowa, 4 pm, BTN
Bowling Green at Michigam 4 pm, ESPN2
Eastern Michigan at MSU, 6 pm, BTN
Liberty at Purdue, 6 pm, CBSSN
Sacred Heart at Rutgers, 7 pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 7 pm
Tennessee Tech at Indiana, 8 pm, BTN
Eastern Illinois at Wisconsin, 10 pm, BTN


This old man will not be watching anything but his eyelids by that time.
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #367 on: November 25, 2020, 08:39:45 AM »
OSU is going to have a lot different looking team this year.  Kaleb Wesson has been the headliner for two years, and a ton of the offense ran through him.  There is no one like him on the roster this year, so by default they should look a lot different, for better or for worse.  Also gone is Andre Wesson, who provided a little bit of everything.  DJ Carton and Luther Muhammad would have been big parts of the team, they are gone.  So is Alonzo Gaffney.  Who's left?

The starters

CJ Walker, PG: Played last year and was sort of ho hum until DJ Carton left the team, and he turned into a pretty good player. Having a veteran point guard is a good thing in the NCAA, and the question os whther he can keep up a strong level of play now that he is the guy, or just devolves into a league average guard. 

Duane Washington, SG: A good scorer and shooter.  Can he do anything else?

Justice Sueing, SF: A transfer from Cal who is eligible.  Profiles as an athletic wing who likes to attack the basket.  Questions are whether he can shoot threes and play defense.  Should be a big part of the offense.

EJ Liddell, PF: A freshman last year, Liddell showed lots of flashes and plays with a lot of energy.  He is strong in the post, but the question is whether he can play outside.  

Kyle Young, C: Gets called the glue guy for no real reason.  He's a good defender and rebounder, and traditionally has not shot the ball at all except to dunk.  But the coaching staff keeps saying he can shoot threes.  We shall see, the biggest issue with this team right now is that they have too many guys who want to be near the basket.

Reserves:

Seth Towns, SF: Transfer from Harvard who is not expected to play right away as he recovers from knee issues.  Obviously, his health is a question mark.  If he can play, he would be a big part of the team because he's a strong shooter and could open up the lane.

Musa Jallow, SG: Took a redshirt last year.  Two years ago profiled as an athletic defender.  Let's see if he can score.

Justin Ahrens, SG: Shoots threes and that's it.

Jimmy Sotos, PG: Transfer from Bucknell, was supposed to take a year off but through a round of craziness is now the backup PG.

Ibrahim Diallo, C: The only true center on the roster, it's now his third year in and you wonder if he will ever get on the court

Zed Key, PF: Freshman, though there does seem to be an expectation that he will get some minutes as a post guy who can score a bit.

Eugene Brown, SF: Freshman, haven't seen many takes that he will contribute this year

Meechie Johnson, PG: Freshman, won't immediately be part of the team.  Reclassified so he could join the team this year, presumably to provide guard depth. 


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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #368 on: November 25, 2020, 08:40:29 AM »
This old man will not be watching anything but his eyelids by that time.
Seriously 10 pm tips should be illegal

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #369 on: November 25, 2020, 09:08:12 AM »
I don't get it. The people (EST) who want to watch won't, while the people (PST/MST) who can watch it also won't. There will be very few people in the CST who also won't watch but maybe the first half.
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #370 on: November 25, 2020, 09:46:31 AM »
9pm tip Central?

Have to be a good game to keep me from dozing off
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #371 on: November 25, 2020, 10:50:56 AM »
Have to fit them all on tv.  IIRC there's no BTN overflow for basketball.  10PM on TV is better than 8PM and not

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #372 on: November 25, 2020, 11:59:11 AM »
I've got 3 big ten network channels on my IPTV lineup

this way I can watch the east division game and the west division game at the same time
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #373 on: November 25, 2020, 01:15:02 PM »
I've got 3 big ten network channels on my IPTV lineup

this way I can watch the east division game and the west division game at the same time
Yeah, for football.  I don't think they use them for basketball

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #374 on: November 25, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
WTF?

Hoops doesn't count??
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #375 on: November 25, 2020, 02:12:42 PM »
This is the first time in a long time Iowa fans have high expectations for the bball team. 2015-16 was a year that we didn't know how good they could be until the season started. This year could be one of the best years since Tom Davis roamed the court in the 80s/90s or could be the disappointing finish of 2015-16. Barring injuries (or 2020 terms, COVID), Garza doesn't have to do near as much as last year. I expect him to be somewhere around a 16/9 guy since he will have enough weapons on the outside. Still wouldn't be surprised that the three point shooters will make enough nervous Garza could easily average 25-30 again from the lack of the defenses collapsing. Should be a fun year.

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #376 on: November 25, 2020, 02:15:33 PM »
Ahrens and Key are the first off the bench

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #377 on: November 25, 2020, 07:48:00 PM »
Too early to get my hopes up....but this might be Pitino's deepest team.  Given....they are playing Green Bay....but a 53-22 halftime lead is nothing to sneeze at.

 

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