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Topic: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #350 on: November 16, 2020, 10:20:44 AM »
Basketball is coming! I hope! OSU says they are playing Illinois State on November 25th. That's nine days!

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #351 on: November 16, 2020, 05:57:17 PM »
Apparently the entire NCAA tourney will be in Indy.

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #352 on: November 16, 2020, 06:08:43 PM »
good for Indy
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« Reply #353 on: November 16, 2020, 06:22:03 PM »
Apparently the entire NCAA tourney will be in Indy.
This plan is outstanding

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #354 on: November 16, 2020, 06:40:02 PM »
if you live in Indy
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #355 on: November 16, 2020, 08:46:32 PM »
I hope they do expand their minds for venues.  Beyond the four obvious ones.   Some really cool and large HS venues in the area. Too bad the Wigwam isn't in playing shape. 


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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #356 on: November 16, 2020, 09:39:32 PM »
I think you do 8 pods of 8, with the 8 winners advancing to the Elite 8.

Not exactly traditional, but it only requires reshuffling once.

Good luck seeding teams with basically no OOC games


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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #357 on: November 16, 2020, 10:02:30 PM »
I'm predicting they half or third Lucas Oil, and use the connecting Convention center for other courts. Won't be as interesting as sending some of the early rounds to Hinkle or Indiana Coliseum at State Fair Park, but makes it simple to organize and control team/player movements.  Like a big damn club volleyball tournament. 

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #358 on: November 18, 2020, 09:40:29 AM »
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #359 on: November 18, 2020, 09:52:48 AM »
I think you do 8 pods of 8, with the 8 winners advancing to the Elite 8.

Not exactly traditional, but it only requires reshuffling once.

Good luck seeding teams with basically no OOC games


I like the idea of pods of 8.
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #360 on: November 24, 2020, 12:37:08 PM »
Not sure if we covered any Purdue recruiting news. 

For 2021, Purdue hit on two top targets in Caleb Furst and Trey Kaufman. They're two of the Painter's highest-ranked recruits, so it's a pretty huge get. Both are "bigs", but one is more in a forward/center mold while the other is more of a wing/forward type player. There was some question of whether they'd avoid playing for the same school because they're close enough to the same position, but I think Painter was able to convince both that they had unique attributes allowing them to see the floor together, not compete for time.

For 2022, we just picked up Fletcher Loyer (brother of MSU's Foster Loyer), a shooting guard. He's not super-high rated (I think top 150), but it's in line with Painter's desire to pick up a deadeye shooter in every class. Size-wise he's closer to Ryan Cline, so he's got some height to see (and launch) over defenders.

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #361 on: November 24, 2020, 12:55:01 PM »
Not sure if we covered any Purdue recruiting news.

For 2021, Purdue hit on two top targets in Caleb Furst and Trey Kaufman. They're two of the Painter's highest-ranked recruits, so it's a pretty huge get. Both are "bigs", but one is more in a forward/center mold while the other is more of a wing/forward type player. There was some question of whether they'd avoid playing for the same school because they're close enough to the same position, but I think Painter was able to convince both that they had unique attributes allowing them to see the floor together, not compete for time.
Eh, if any school has proven, even in the modern game, they have figured out how to work multiple bigs together, it's Purdue.  Not sure there should be any hesitation there on the part of recruits.

As for Loyer.  IIRC, his brother is the state's all-time leader in both FT% and 3 pointers, and maybe like #2 in scoring?  He has been unable (aside from one random BTT game against OSU where I think he scored 12 points on 4-5 from 3) to overcome his size.  I think this kid is taller, but I don't think a single MSU fan was disappointed they didn't offer him.  Maybe the height makes up for the slighty worse shooting numbers.

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #362 on: November 24, 2020, 12:58:59 PM »
Purdue opens tomorrow with Liberty.

Purdue has no seniors on the team this year. Not even a random walk-on. With Matt Haarms and Nojel Eastern now being at BYU and Howard, respectively, we have only 11 scholarship recruits on the roster.

Eric Hunter is out 6-8 weeks due to a leg injury. Mason Gillis is recovering from mono. Emmanuel Dowuona has apparently been dealing with breathing issues (cause hasn't been disclosed, but some think it was a summertime case of COVID that he's taking longer to recover from).

Which means we've got an 8-man rotation going into tomorrow's game.

Key returnees (leaving off Hunter due to injury and Dow because we have never seen enough of him to know what he can do):

Trevion Wiliams - Center: Everyone knows him by now. Widebody in the post, tremendous rebounder and really solid post scorer and passer. A little short for a center, but makes up for it by it being nearly physically impossible to move him off the block. 

Aaron Wheeler - Forward: He had a disappointing RS Jr year last year, but he's got all the physical attributes. He's 6'9" and can leap out of the gym. Has a good shooting stroke from deep [although his 3pt shooting was terrible last year, it was good his RS Fr year]. Limits are a not very good handle and so far hasn't really showed consistent use of his athleticism to get to the rim. Plays a little timid at times.

Sasha Stevanovich - Shooting Guard: Deadeye shooter with one of the quickest releases I've ever seen. Able to shoot on the move and come of screens. Surprisingly tenacious defender. 

Isaiah Thompson - Point Guard: Brother of PJ Thompson, but taller and more athletic. Held down the position well last year as a freshman, and hoping his growth continues. 

Coming off redshirt:

Mason Gillis - Forward: Seems to be a forward in the Vince Edwards mold. Was a very solid recruit until injury took away most of his Jr and Sr years of basketball in HS, and thus he just wasn't ready to contribute last year. That he's now dealing with mono isn't a great sign, but he'd be expected to push Wheeler at the 4. 

Brandon Newman - Combo guard: Pure scorer; redshirted because he wasn't ready defensively. Expected to start tomorrow, at the very least while Hunter is injured. He was a pretty solid pickup on the recruiting trail, so while we were all a bit disappointed that he even had to redshirt, hopefully the time spent developing his defense will be worth it. 

Key incoming true freshmen:

Jaden Ivey - Guard: Son of current Notre Dame NCAAW head coach Niele Ivey, and we all know how Painter loves "coach's kids". Expected to contribute from day 1. Shot up the recruiting rankings AFTER his commitment to Purdue. Strong scorer, and known as eminently coachable and a team player. 

Ethan Morton - Guard: A 6'6" point guard, with some of the best passing skills potentially ever. Painter once described Dakota Mathias as one of the best passer's he'd ever seen, and he's said that Morton might compare favorably to Dakota. Very much a jack-of-all-trades player, not selfish with the basketball but can score just fine on his own. Expected to be a regular contributor from day 1 as well. 

Zach Edey - Center: Currently listed at 7'4" (!), was largely unknown a few years ago. Loved playing hockey and baseball, but just kept growing, and growing, and growing, to become too tall for those sports. So he's only played basketball a few years now. He played at IMG last season, and apparently the guy everyone thought was a project is looking like he's going to contribute early. He'll back up Trevion, and maybe won't really PUSH Tre for minutes, but if he can just contribute spot minutes when Tre is gassed it will be huge for the team. 

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #363 on: November 24, 2020, 01:12:26 PM »
As for Loyer.  IIRC, his brother is the state's all-time leader in both FT% and 3 pointers, and maybe like #2 in scoring?  He has been unable (aside from one random BTT game against OSU where I think he scored 12 points on 4-5 from 3) to overcome his size.  I think this kid is taller, but I don't think a single MSU fan was disappointed they didn't offer him.  Maybe the height makes up for the slighty worse shooting numbers.
Did Foster play much? I was reading his role the past couple years was Winston's backup... Looking at stats, it seems his and Cassius' minutes split add up to almost exactly 40. I wonder if he just had bigger competition at the other guard positions and so he was the PG backup instead?

A lot of us were surprised that MSU didn't offer. Michigan, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Utah, and Mizzou rounded out his final 6 along with Purdue. So it's not like he's some unknown that didn't have any good offers. 

I'm wondering if it was just flat out known up front that he wasn't interested in MSU. Maybe he is the type that just doesn't want to be known in the program as Foster Loyer's little [taller] brother. 

Of course it's also possible that MSU just has their eyes on bigger targets. 

 

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