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MrNubbz

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1498 on: July 02, 2019, 04:00:34 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on July 02, 2019, 03:18:29 PM
 Pliny is a superb beer. It deserves its reputation.
I get that but Coors use to be hard to find East of the Mississippi ;D.I'm sure Pliny is some fine suds,there's too many Micro's out there to throw hard coin at because you can't get you mitts on it.Same-same with Pappy Van Winkle to the Bourbon swillers
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1499 on: July 02, 2019, 04:17:59 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 02, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
I get that but Coors use to be hard to find East of the Mississippi ;D.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1500 on: July 02, 2019, 04:35:05 PM »
Pliney sucks.  Typical overhopped West Coast IPA crap.

Russian River does make some interesting Belgian style beers, though.  
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1501 on: July 02, 2019, 05:14:04 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 02, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
I get that but Coors use to be hard to find East of the Mississippi ;D.I'm sure Pliny is some fine suds,there's too many Micro's out there to throw hard coin at because you can't get you mitts on it.Same-same with Pappy Van Winkle to the Bourbon swillers
Coors banquet is actually a quite fine beer. I could do without Coors Light, unless I'm trying to hydrate.

I'm just saying, if you happen to come across Pliny (which should be getting easier as they recently expanded and built a new brewery), you could do a LOT worse.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1502 on: July 02, 2019, 05:18:20 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 02, 2019, 04:35:05 PM
Pliney sucks.  Typical overhopped West Coast IPA crap.

One of my only personal negatives about moving back West - every bar you go hasn’t let up on their IPA kick, a movement that should’ve crested half a decade ago, and continues to crowd out the summery, easier to down, lagers
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1503 on: July 02, 2019, 05:20:31 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 02, 2019, 04:35:05 PM
Pliney sucks.  Typical overhopped West Coast IPA crap.

Russian River does make some interesting Belgian style beers, though. 
Except it's not. While you don't really hear this term about 8% double IPA beers, it's remarkably balanced. 

By all measures [and if you look at the recipe], it should be ridiculously over-hopped and nigh-undrinkable. Yet it's eminently drinkable. 

There are some beers I know of that would fall into the category you describe--a category I enjoy regularly. But Pliny is not one of them.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1504 on: July 02, 2019, 05:22:25 PM »
for whatever value, Pappy ain't what it used to be.  i'd just assume save a few bucks and get the Weller which is just as good and far easier to find... it would be Pappy if it stayed in the cask a few more years, and which is precisely the reason i'm over pappy- it's too smokey- it disturbs the complexity by my reckoning.  I don't recall it being that way before- or maybe now that i've pegged it i can't see around it.    
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1505 on: July 02, 2019, 05:27:42 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on July 02, 2019, 05:18:20 PM
One of my only personal negatives about moving back West - every bar you go hasn’t let up on their IPA kick, a movement that should’ve crested half a decade ago, and continues to crowd out the summery, easier to down, lagers
Lagers are making a comeback... However IPA is America's beer. I don't think it's going away.

I don't know if you ever make it to SoCal, but in Corona there is a brewery called Skyland Ale Works. One of my homebrew club buddies just recently became half-owner. He's the guy that if I ever won the lottery, was first-in-line to hire as my brewmaster, so that should tell you how highly I respected his beer on the homebrew level. Now that he's commercial, I've been to the brewery and their lineup, top to bottom, is excellent. And he's got quite a few lagers in his recipe repertoire, including a Vienna Lager that has been one of his mainstays probably as long as I've known him.

If you ever find your way out here, I recommend it. 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1506 on: July 02, 2019, 06:20:06 PM »
Why is INDIA Pale Ale "America's Beer"?  Didn't the Brits come up with that to survive heat in passage?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1507 on: July 02, 2019, 06:26:47 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 02, 2019, 06:20:06 PM
Why is INDIA Pale Ale "America's Beer"?  Didn't the Brits come up with that to survive heat in passage?
For the same reason that curry is now English food. They've adopted it ;-) 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1508 on: July 02, 2019, 06:33:30 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on July 02, 2019, 05:20:31 PM
Except it's not. While you don't really hear this term about 8% double IPA beers, it's remarkably balanced.

By all measures [and if you look at the recipe], it should be ridiculously over-hopped and nigh-undrinkable. Yet it's eminently drinkable.

There are some beers I know of that would fall into the category you describe--a category I enjoy regularly. But Pliny is not one of them.

Doesn't come off as balanced to me-- like, not at all.  Just still too bitter and with too much alcohol that I can taste.  As you said, nigh-undrinkable is exactly how it comes off.

But like I said, Russian River does actually make some interesting Belgian-style beers, so I forgive them.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1509 on: July 02, 2019, 06:35:56 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 02, 2019, 06:20:06 PM
Why is INDIA Pale Ale "America's Beer"?  Didn't the Brits come up with that to survive heat in passage?
Yes.  You weren't ever supposed to actually taste the brutally over-hopped bitterness. In original IPAs, all that bitter fades and mellows over time.  Even now British IPAs are way more drinkable than West Coast American IPAs.

Luckily for me, down here in Texico, the bitter-bomb IPAs are diminishing somewhat in popularity, and leaving at least a little more room on tap walls for delicious balanced beers, especially many of the various lager styles which go so well in the heat of the summer.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1510 on: July 02, 2019, 06:42:47 PM »
I may have mentioned a bar near me that has over 100 beers and types on tap.  Some of them are ciders.

Give me ten good ones and I'm fine, balanced and not silly overdone.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1511 on: July 02, 2019, 07:07:04 PM »
I shared a 6-pack of Breckenridge Vanilla Porter in Norman a couple of weeks ago.  Very nice, I thought.

I don't know how it rates among beer snobs, however.

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