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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #112 on: August 15, 2019, 06:15:09 PM »
OCTOBER 20
  • Georgia (7-0)
  • Clemson (6-1)
  • Syracuse (7-0)
  • Alabama (6-1)
  • WISCONSIN (7-0)
  • Texas (6-1)
  • Oklahoma (6-1)
  • Texas A&M (6-1)
  • Notre Dame (5-1)
  • OHIO STATE (6-1)
  • Utah (7-0)
  • Washington (7-1)
  • Oregon (6-1)
  • Mississippi State (6-1)
  • LSU (5-2)
  • Missouri (7-0) 17
  • Boston College (7-0)
  • Fresno State (6-0)
  • PENN STATE (6-1)
  • Florida (5-2)
  • MICHIGAN (5-2)
  • West Virginia (5-2)
  • Iowa State (6-1)
  • Oklahoma State (5-2)
  • IOWA (5-2)

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #113 on: August 15, 2019, 06:20:05 PM »
Not many undefeateds left.

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2019, 10:32:40 AM »
Not many undefeateds left.
I noticed the same thing.  The total number of potential undefeated teams is even lower:
  • #1 Georga or #16 Mizzou
  • #3 Syracuse or #17 Boston College
  • #5 Wisconsin (only remaining B1G undefeated)
  • #11 Utah (only remaining PAC undefeated)

That is it for P5 undefeated teams.  Additionally:
  • UGA and Mizzou are both in the SEC-E and play on 11-9 in Athens.  The SEC has three 1-loss teams (Bama, aTm, MissSt).  Bama and MissSt play on 11/16, aTm and MissSt play on 10/26.  
  • Syracuse and Boston College are in the same ACC Division and play 11/2 in Syracuse.  
  • Thus, by 11/9 there can only possibly be four P5 undefeateds (either UGA or Mizzou from the SEC, either Cuse or BC from the ACC, Wisconsin from the B1G, and Utah from the PAC).  
  • Clemson, Boston College, and Syracuse are in the same ACC Division (Atlantic, I had to look it up) so while the Tigers are ranked #2 in @ELA 's simulation they have a big problem.  They can't make the ACCCG without Syracuse losing at least two ACC games.  They might get in anyway as a 1-loss non-Champion but it could be tricky especially if Syracuse wins the ACC with zero or one loss.  One would assume that, in that case, the Orange would get in ahead of Clemson and a 1-loss non-champion Clemson would not get in ahead of an undefeated or 1-loss SEC Champ or a potential undefeated Wisconsin.  


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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2019, 10:44:57 AM »
That's a P5/G5 matchup.
Let the Big 12 poach CSU and BYU.  CSU has the bones to be competitive (with a shiny new stadium), and BYU is already a de facto P5 program.  Also, I think the Big 12 is a better fit for BYU culturally than the PAC, as the Big 12 is far more religious as a whole, and will almost certainly honor BYU's desire to sit out on Sundays.

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2019, 11:05:36 AM »
This will create a MAJOR shakeup in the top-25:
  • For #2 tOSU and #4 Oregon this is their first loss so they should probably only slide to about #10ish. 
  • For #6 LSU, #13 Michigan, and #15 WVU this is their second loss so this should probably drop them to about #20ish. 
  • #16 Washington has a huge win and a bunch of fortuitous losses in front of them so they should climb into the top-10. 
  • #21 Penn State and #22 MissSt have big wins and will move up considerably. 
  • #23 Baylor and #25 Purdue drop out. 


So my guess is:
  • Georgia
  • Syracuse
  • Clemson
  • Alabama
  • Washington
  • Wisconsin
  • Oklahoma
  • Texas
  • aTm
  • ND
  • Oregon
  • Ohio State
  • Mississippi State
  • Penn State
  • Utah
  • Missouri
  • Fresno State
  • Boston College
  • Florida
  • LSU
  • Michigan
  • Iowa State
  • Iowa
  • Northwestern
  • OkSU



i know it's after ela already posted, but no way #6 lsu drops to 20 after losing to a top 25 team, even with 2 loses. i think 15-16 is more reasonable.

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2019, 11:12:10 AM »
It is fun to play out a hypothetical ahead of time, thanks for doing this.  I doubt we'd have this few undefeateds at this point.  Often by week 8-9 or so folks gnash molars about how MANY are left and what a crisis it will be, and then Upset Saturday hits.  Last year was unusual/atypical.

I think the mean is about 2 undefeateds left among the P5s after 13 games, often one.

I think ELA will have UF beating UGA, bbut Mizzou is about to get clipped, I suspect.




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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2019, 11:38:24 AM »
i know it's after ela already posted, but no way #6 lsu drops to 20 after losing to a top 25 team, even with 2 loses. i think 15-16 is more reasonable.
I could see it. ELA has Michigan at 21, with their losses being only to top teams (#5 and #19).
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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #119 on: August 16, 2019, 11:47:49 AM »
# of undefeateds looks normal to me.

currently has 9 total, 6 p5, 3 g5.

at this time during last 10 years we had these undefeateds:

2018 - 5 total - 3 p5, 2 g5
2017 -8 total, 6 p5, 2 g5
2016 - 9 total, 7 p5, 2 g5
2015 - 12 total, 8 p5, 4 g5
2014 - 4 total, 3 p5, 1 g5
2013 - 10 total, 8 p5, 2 g5
2012 - 11 total, 10 p5, 1 g5
2011 - 8 total, 7 p5, 1 g5
2010 - 7 total, 6 p5, 1 g5
2009 - 7 total, 4 p5, 3 g5

(i might have missed on p5/g5 breakdown, couldn't remember exactly when utah/tcu/etc changed to p5 confs)

maybe it's just cause it's a lot of new faces with 0 losses so far. bc, cuse, mizzou replaced bama, clemson, osu, etc.

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #120 on: August 16, 2019, 11:55:49 AM »
I could see it. ELA has Michigan at 21, with their losses being only to top teams (#5 and #19).
yes, but mich was #13 at time of 2nd loss. i'd expect both to drop about 8-10 spots, which they both did. and would put lsu in the 14-16 range, and mich in the 21-23 range.

wouldn't be unheard of for lsu to drop that much, but it'd be unexpected imo. would need a massive blowout.

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #121 on: August 16, 2019, 04:53:30 PM »
WEEK 9
Thursday, October 24
Houston d. SMU

Friday, October 25

  • Colorado d. USC


Saturday, October 26
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#10 OHIO STATE 38, #5 WISCONSIN 26


  • #2 Clemson d. #17 Boston College
  • #3 Syracuse d. Florida State
  • #4 Alabama d. Arkansas
  • #6 Texas d. TCU
  • #7 Oklahoma d. Kansas State
  • #8 Texas A&M d. #14 Mississippi State
  • #21 MICHIGAN d. #9 Notre Dame
  • #11 Utah d. California
  • #13 Oregon d. Washington State
  • #15 LSU d. Auburn
  • Kentucky d. #16 Missouri
  • #18 Fresno State d. Colorado State
  • #19 PENN STATE d. MICHIGAN STATE
  • #23 Iowa State d. #24 Oklahoma State
  • #25 IOWA d. NORTHWESTERN



  • Appalachian State d. South Alabama
  • Arizona State d. UCLA
  • Arkansas State d. Texas State
  • Army d. San Jose State
  • Buffalo d. Central Michigan
  • Central Florida d. Temple
  • Duke d. North Carolina
  • FIU d. Middle Tennessee
  • Florida Atlantic d. Old Dominion
  • Georgia Southern d. NM State
  • Hawaii d. New Mexico
  • Kent State d. Miami(Ohio)
  • Louisiana Tech d. UTEP
  • Marshall d. Western Kentucky
  • Massachusetts d. Connecticut
  • Memphis d. Tulsa
  • Miami d. Pittsburgh
  • MINNESOTA d. MARYLAND
  • NEBRASKA d. INDIANA
  • North Texas d. Charlotte
  • Northern Illinois d. Akron
  • Ohio d. Ball State
  • PURDUE d. ILLINOIS
  • RUTGERS d. Liberty
  • South Florida d. East Carolina
  • Southern Miss d. Rice
  • Stanford d. Arizona
  • Tennessee d. South Carolina
  • Texas Tech d. Kansas
  • Toledo d. Eastern Michigan
  • Troy d. Georgia State
  • Tulane d. Navy
  • UNLV d. San Diego State
  • Utah State d. Air Force
  • Virginia d. Louisville
  • Western Michigan d. Bowling Green
  • Wyoming d. Nevada



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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #122 on: August 16, 2019, 06:08:07 PM »
ACC
ATLANTIC

  • Syracuse (4-0) 8-0
  • Clemson (5-1) 7-1
  • Boston College (4-1) 7-1
  • Wake Forest (2-2) 5-2
  • Florida State (3-3) 5-3
  • NC State (0-3) 3-4
  • Louisville (0-5) 2-6

COASTAL
  • Miami (5-0) 7-1
  • Duke (3-2) 5-3
  • Virginia (3-2) 5-3
  • Virginia Tech (2-2) 5-2
  • Georgia Tech (1-3) 3-4
  • Pittsburgh (1-3) 3-5
  • North Carolina (0-6) 0-8



BIG XII
  • Iowa State (4-1) 7-1
  • Oklahoma (4-1) 7-1
  • Texas (4-1) 7-1
  • West Virginia (3-1) 5-2
  • Baylor (2-2) 5-2
  • TCU (2-2) 4-3
  • Oklahoma State (2-3) 5-3
  • Texas Tech (2-3) 4-4
  • Kansas State (0-4) 2-5
  • Kansas (0-5) 2-6



BIG TEN
EAST
  • Ohio State (4-1) 7-1
  • Penn State (4-1) 7-1
  • Michigan (3-2) 6-2
  • Maryland (2-3) 3-5
  • Indiana (1-4) 4-4
  • Michigan State (1-4) 4-4
  • Rutgers (0-5) 2-6
WEST
  • Wisconsin (4-1) 7-1
  • Iowa (4-1) 6-2
  • Minnesota (4-1) 6-2
  • Purdue (3-2) 6-2
  • Northwestern (3-2) 4-3
  • Nebraska (2-3) 5-3
  • Illinois (0-5) 3-5



PAC 12
NORTH

  • Oregon (4-1) 7-1
  • Washington (4-1) 7-1
  • Stanford (4-2) 5-3
  • California (2-3) 5-3
  • Washington State (2-3) 5-3
  • Oregon State (0-4) 1-6

SOUTH
  • Utah (5-0) 8-0
  • Arizona State (3-2) 5-3
  • Colorado (2-3) 4-4
  • USC (2-3) 2-6
  • Arizona (1-4) 3-5
  • UCLA (1-4) 2-6



SEC
EAST
  • Georgia (4-0) 7-0
  • Missouri (3-1) 7-1
  • Florida (3-2) 6-2
  • Kentucky (3-3) 5-3
  • Vanderbilt (1-3) 3-4
  • Tennessee (1-4) 4-4
  • South Carolina (1-5) 3-5


WEST
  • Texas A&M (5-0) 7-1
  • Alabama (4-1) 7-1
  • LSU (3-1) 6-2
  • Mississippi State (3-2) 6-2
  • Auburn (2-3) 4-4
  • Ole Miss (1-4) 2-6
  • Arkansas (0-5) 3-5



AMERICAN
EAST

  • South Florida (4-0) 6-2
  • Cincinnati (3-0) 6-1
  • Central Florida (3-1) 7-1
  • Temple (3-1) 6-2
  • East Carolina (0-4) 3-5
  • Connecticut (0-4) 1-7

WEST
  • Memphis (3-1) 6-2
  • Tulane (3-1) 5-3
  • Houston (2-2) 3-5
  • SMU (1-3) 3-5
  • Tulsa (1-3) 2-6
  • Navy (1-4) 3-4



CONFERENCE USA
EAST
  • Florida Atlantic (4-0) 5-3
  • FIU (4-1) 6-2
  • Marshall (2-2) 4-4
  • Western Kentucky (2-3) 3-5
  • Middle Tennessee (1-3) 2-6
  • Charlotte (0-4) 2-6
  • Old Dominion (0-4) 1-7


WEST
  • UAB (4-0) 7-0
  • Louisiana Tech (4-0) 6-2
  • North Texas (3-1) 5-3
  • Southern Miss (3-1) 4-4
  • UTEP (1-3) 2-5
  • UTSA (1-3) 2-5
  • Rice (0-4) 0-8

MID-AMERICAN
EAST
  • Buffalo (4-0) 7-1
  • Ohio (3-1) 5-3
  • Kent State (2-2) 3-5
  • Bowling Green (1-3) 2-6
  • Akron (1-3) 1-7
  • Miami(Ohio) (0-4) 1-7


WEST
  • Western Michigan (4-1) 6-3
  • Toledo (3-1) 5-3
  • Northern Illinois (3-1) 4-4
  • Central Michigan (2-3) 4-5
  • Ball State (1-3) 3-5
  • Eastern Michigan (1-3) 2-6

MOUNTAIN WEST
MOUNTAIN

  • Utah State (4-0) 5-2
  • Boise State (3-0) 6-1
  • Wyoming (3-1) 5-3
  • New Mexico (1-3) 3-5
  • Air Force (1-4) 2-6
  • Colorado State (0-4) 1-7

WEST
  • Fresno State (3-0) 7-0
  • Hawaii (3-1) 6-2
  • San Jose State (2-2) 4-4
  • San Diego State (2-3) 4-4
  • Nevada (1-3) 3-5
  • UNLV (1-3) 3-5



SUN BELT
EAST
  • Appalachian State (4-0) 7-0
  • Troy (3-0) 6-1
  • Georgia Southern (3-0) 5-2
  • Coastal Carolina (1-2) 4-3
  • Georgia State (0-4) 1-7


WEST
  • Arkansas State (3-1) 5-3
  • UL Monroe (2-1) 4-3
  • Texas State (1-2) 2-5
  • UL Lafayette (0-3) 2-5
  • South Alabama (0-4) 1-7

INDEPENDENTS
  • Army (7-1)
  • Notre Dame (5-2)
  • Liberty (3-5)
  • Massachusetts (3-5)
  • BYU (2-5)
  • NM State (1-7)


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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #123 on: August 16, 2019, 06:21:27 PM »
I just noticed UNC is 0-8.  Folks in Chapel Hill are not expecting that (duh).

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #124 on: August 16, 2019, 06:26:33 PM »
OCTOBER 27
  • Georgia (7-0)
  • Syracuse (8-0)
  • Clemson (7-1)
  • Alabama (7-1)
  • Texas (7-1)
  • Oklahoma (7-1)
  • Texas A&M (7-1)
  • OHIO STATE (7-1)
  • Utah (8-0)
  • WISCONSIN (7-1)
  • Washington (7-1)
  • Oregon (7-1)
  • LSU (6-2)
  • PENN STATE (7-1)
  • Florida (5-2)
  • MICHIGAN (6-2)
  • Notre Dame (5-2)
  • Fresno State (7-0)
  • Mississippi State (6-2)
  • Missouri (7-1)
  • West Virginia (5-2)
  • Iowa State (7-1)
  • Boston College (7-1)
  • IOWA (6-2)
  • Miami (7-1)

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Re: 2019 ELA Game by Game Predictions
« Reply #125 on: August 16, 2019, 08:43:29 PM »
I just noticed UNC is 0-8.  Folks in Chapel Hill are not expecting that (duh).
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