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FearlessF · « **Reply #56 on:** August 13, 2019, 03:31:27 PM »

so, you'd rather lose early and be dropped in the poll, rather than be undefeated until late and have all the media attention and hopes and dreams of winning the playoff?

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 13, 2019, 03:54:02 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2019, 03:31:27 PM

so, you'd rather lose early and be dropped in the poll, rather than be undefeated until late and have all the media attention and hopes and dreams of winning the playoff?

I don't care that much one way or the other about that. My issue with the schedule is that I think it is EXTREMELY difficult to maintain the necessary level of intensity to beat high-end opponents week-after-week-after-week.

This is one of the reasons that I (and a few others on here such as @OAM) tend to discount undefeated records by minor conference teams.

Since I brought up @OrangeAfroMan , I'll use Florida as my example. Starting with 2006 the Gators have finished their SEC schedule two weeks before most teams then played an OOC cupcake the week prior to rivalry week (FSU for them, obviously). Prior to that, from the beginning of the CG era in the SEC, the Gators finished their season (in CG seasons) with:

SEC game
FSU game
SECCG
Bowl

From 1992-2005 (14 years) the Gators NEVER managed to win all four of those:

1992: went in 7-2, beat Vandy, lost to FSU, lost SECCG, won bowl
1993: went in 8-1, beat Vandy, lost to FSU, won SECCG, won bowl
1994: went in 8-1, beat Vandy, tied FSU, won SECCG, lost bowl
1995: went in 9-0, beat Vandy, beat FSU, won SECCG, lost bowl
1996: went in 9-0, beat USCe, lost to FSU, won SECCG, won bowl
1997: went in 7-2, beat USCe, beat FSU, missed SECCG, won bowl
1998: went in 8-1, beat USCe, lost to FSU, missed SECCG, won bowl
1999: went in 8-1, beat USCe, lost to FSU, lost SECCG, lost bowl
2000: went in 8-1, beat USCe, lost to FSU, won SECCG, lost bowl
2001: went in 7-1, beat USCe, beat FSU, lost to TN (rescheduled due to something), won bowl
2002: went in 7-3, beat USCe, lost to FSU, missed SECCG, lost bowl
2003: went in 7-3, beat USCe, lost to FSU, missed SECCG, lost bowl
2004: went in 5-4, beat USCe, beat FSU, missed SECCG, lost bowl
2005: went in 7-2, lost to USCe, beat FSU, missed SECCG, won bowl

Florida was a VERY good team overall from 1992-2005. In spite of that, they never managed to win those four in a row. Then in 2006 they started playing a patsy the week before FSU and won those last four in 2006 and 2008.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #58 on:** August 13, 2019, 03:54:54 PM »

For OSU breaking in a new head coach, you don't want some time to work out the kinks before facing the toughest opponents?

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #59 on:** August 13, 2019, 03:58:00 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 13, 2019, 03:54:02 PM

Florida was a VERY good team overall from 1992-2005. In spite of that, they never managed to win those four in a row. Then in 2006 they started playing a patsy the week before FSU and won those last four in 2006 and 2008.

Well, the schedule might account for some of that. But Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow might have something to do with it too.

ELA · « **Reply #60 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:00:17 PM »

ACC
ATLANTIC

Boston College (3-0) 6-0
Syracuse (2-0) 6-0
Clemson (3-1) 5-1
Wake Forest (2-1) 5-1
Florida State (2-2) 4-2
NC State (0-2) 3-3
Louisville (0-3) 2-4

COASTAL

Miami (3-0) 5-1
Duke (2-1) 4-2
Pittsburgh (1-1) 3-3
Virginia Tech (1-2) 4-2
Georgia Tech (1-2) 3-3
Virginia (1-2) 3-3
North Carolina (0-4) 0-6

BIG XII

West Virginia (3-0) 5-1
Baylor (2-1) 5-1
Iowa State (2-1) 5-1
Oklahoma (2-1) 5-1
Texas (2-1) 5-1
TCU (1-1) 3-2
Oklahoma State (1-2) 4-2
Texas Tech (1-2) 3-3
Kansas State (0-2) 2-3
Kansas (0-3) 2-4

BIG TEN
EAST

Ohio State (3-0) 6-0
Michigan (3-1) 5-1
Penn State (2-1) 5-1
Indiana (1-2) 4-2
Maryland (1-2) 2-4
Michigan State (1-3) 4-3
Rutgers (0-4) 1-5

WEST

Wisconsin (3-0) 6-0
Purdue (2-1) 5-1
Iowa (2-1) 4-2
Minnesota (2-1) 4-2
Northwestern (2-1) 3-2
Nebraska (1-3) 4-3
Illinois (0-3) 3-3

PAC 12
NORTH

Oregon (3-0) 6-0
Washington (3-1) 6-1
Stanford (2-2) 3-3
California (1-2) 4-2
Washington State (1-2) 4-2
Oregon State (0-3) 1-5

SOUTH

Utah (3-0) 6-0
Arizona State (2-1) 4-2
Arizona (1-2) 3-3
Colorado (1-2) 3-3
UCLA (1-2) 2-4
USC (1-2) 1-5

SEC
EAST

Georgia (3-0) 6-0
Missouri (2-0) 6-0
Florida (2-2) 5-2
Kentucky (2-2) 4-2
Vanderbilt (1-2) 3-3
South Carolina (1-3) 3-3
Tennessee (0-3) 3-3

WEST

Texas A&M (3-0) 5-1
LSU (2-0) 5-1
Alabama (2-1) 5-1
Mississippi State (2-1) 5-1
Auburn (1-2) 3-3
Ole Miss (1-3) 2-5
Arkansas (0-3) 3-3

AMERICAN
EAST

Cincinnati (2-0) 5-1
Temple (2-0) 5-1
South Florida (2-0) 4-2
Central Florida (1-1) 5-1
East Carolina (0-2) 3-3
Connecticut (0-3) 1-5

WEST

Tulane (2-0) 4-2
Memphis (1-1) 4-2
SMU (1-1) 3-3
Tulsa (1-1) 2-4
Navy (1-2) 3-2
Houston (0-2) 1-5

CONFERENCE USA
EAST

Florida Atlantic (2-0) 3-3
FIU (2-1) 4-2
Marshall (1-1) 3-3
Middle Tennessee (1-1) 2-4
Western Kentucky (1-2) 2-4
Charlotte (0-2) 2-4
Old Dominion (0-2) 1-5

WEST

UAB (3-0) 6-0
Louisiana Tech (2-0) 4-2
Southern Miss (2-0) 3-3
North Texas (1-1) 3-3
UTEP (1-1) 2-3
Rice (0-2) 0-6
UTSA (0-3) 1-5

MID-AMERICAN
EAST

Buffalo (2-0) 5-1
Ohio (1-1) 3-3
Kent State (1-1) 2-4
Akron (1-1) 1-5
Bowling Green (0-2) 1-5
Miami(Ohio) (0-2) 1-5

WEST

Toledo (2-0) 4-2
Central Michigan (2-1) 4-3
Western Michigan (2-1) 4-3
Eastern Michigan (1-1) 2-4
Northern Illinois (1-1) 2-4
Ball State (0-2) 2-4

MOUNTAIN WEST
MOUNTAIN

Boise State (3-0) 5-1
Utah State (2-0) 3-2
New Mexico (1-1) 3-3
Wyoming (1-1) 3-3
Air Force (1-2) 2-4
Colorado State (0-3) 1-6

WEST

Fresno State (1-0) 5-0
San Diego State (2-1) 4-2
Hawaii (1-1) 4-2
Nevada (1-1) 3-3
San Jose State (1-2) 3-3
UNLV (0-2) 2-4

SUN BELT
EAST

Appalachian State (2-0) 5-0
Georgia Southern (2-0) 3-2
Troy (1-0) 4-1
Coastal Carolina (1-1) 4-2
Georgia State (0-3) 1-5

WEST

UL Monroe (2-0) 4-2
Arkansas State (1-1) 3-3
Texas State (1-1) 2-4
UL Lafayette (0-2) 2-4
South Alabama (0-2) 1-5

INDEPENDENTS

Army (5-1)
Notre Dame (5-1)
BYU (2-4)
Liberty (2-4)
Massachusetts (2-5)
NM State (1-6)

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:06:20 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2019, 03:54:54 PM

For OSU breaking in a new head coach, you don't want some time to work out the kinks before facing the toughest opponents?

It might actually be an advantage this year but my complaint isn't just about THIS year, this is a recurring theme in future B1G schedules for Ohio State:

2020: Illinois before Michigan, ok
2021: PSU before Michigan again
2022: Maryland before Michigan, ok
2023: Minnesota before Michigan, ok
2024: MSU before Michigan
2025: MSU before Michigan and PSU before MSU, ugh

That 2025 schedule is a doozie. The Buckeyes open the season in Austin against the Longhorns then have an open date (TBD) then a home game against Washington. Their B1G-W crossovers are Wisconsin, Iowa, and Northwestern and they finish the season with back-to-back-to-back-to-back games against the Wildcats, Nittany Lions, Spartans, and Wolverines. That is the type of schedule on which a very good team could end up 6-6.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:07:28 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2019, 03:58:00 PM

Well, the schedule might account for some of that. But Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow might have something to do with it too.

Oh they definitely did, but it isn't like the 1992-2005 Gator squads were chopped liver. Those were some great teams and Spurrier was a phenomenal coach.

ELA · « **Reply #63 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:08:32 PM »

OCTOBER 13

Georgia (6-0)
OHIO STATE (6-0)
Clemson (5-1)
Oregon (6-0)
Syracuse (6-0)
LSU (5-1)
Alabama (5-1)
WISCONSIN (6-0)
Texas (5-1)
Oklahoma (5-1)
Texas A&M (5-1)
Notre Dame (5-1)
MICHIGAN (5-1)
Utah (6-0)
West Virginia (5-1)
Washington (6-1)
Missouri (6-0)
Fresno State (5-0)
Boston College (6-0)
Florida (4-2)
PENN STATE (5-1)
Mississippi State (5-1)
Baylor (5-1)
Iowa State (5-1)
PURDUE (5-1)

FearlessF · « **Reply #64 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:26:41 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 13, 2019, 04:06:20 PM

That 2025 schedule is a doozie. The Buckeyes open the season in Austin against the Longhorns then have an open date (TBD) then a home game against Washington. Their B1G-W crossovers are Wisconsin, Iowa, and Northwestern and they finish the season with back-to-back-to-back-to-back games against the Wildcats, Nittany Lions, Spartans, and Wolverines. That is the type of schedule on which a very good team could end up 6-6.

I'm really trying to feel sorry for you, but no, that's not a tear.

FearlessF · « **Reply #65 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:30:03 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 13, 2019, 03:54:02 PM

Florida was a VERY good team overall from 1992-2005. In spite of that, they never managed to win those four in a row. Then in 2006 they started playing a patsy the week before FSU and won those last four in 2006 and 2008.

well, 9 of those 14 years there was a loss to FSU.

That was going to happen to most teams regardless of schedule

847badgerfan · « **Reply #66 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:34:06 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 13, 2019, 04:06:20 PM

It might actually be an advantage this year but my complaint isn't just about THIS year, this is a recurring theme in future B1G schedules for Ohio State:
2020: Illinois before Michigan, ok
2021: PSU before Michigan again
2022: Maryland before Michigan, ok
2023: Minnesota before Michigan, ok
2024: MSU before Michigan
2025: MSU before Michigan and PSU before MSU, ugh

That 2025 schedule is a doozie. The Buckeyes open the season in Austin against the Longhorns then have an open date (TBD) then a home game against Washington. Their B1G-W crossovers are Wisconsin, Iowa, and Northwestern and they finish the season with back-to-back-to-back-to-back games against the Wildcats, Nittany Lions, Spartans, and Wolverines. That is the type of schedule on which a very good team could end up 6-6.

Don't let @Brutus Buckeye know.

rolltidefan · « **Reply #67 on:** August 13, 2019, 04:41:49 PM »

can definitely see the loss in college station, but i'd be extremely surprised at that scoreline.

you doing this on ncaa14?

ELA · « **Reply #68 on:** August 13, 2019, 05:00:12 PM »

Quote from: rolltidefan on August 13, 2019, 04:41:49 PM

can definitely see the loss in college station, but i'd be extremely surprised at that scoreline.

you doing this on ncaa14?

No, just my picks

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 13, 2019, 05:11:26 PM »

Quote from: ELA on August 13, 2019, 02:18:59 PM

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Quote from: rolltidefan on August 13, 2019, 04:41:49 PM

can definitely see the loss in college station, but i'd be extremely surprised at that scoreline.

you doing this on ncaa14?

Quote from: ELA on August 13, 2019, 05:00:12 PM

No, just my picks

Wow, my reaction is the same as RTF. I could see a loss but yikes, a blowout would be a humongous story!

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