2019-2020 NFL Thread

[MrNubbz]

 Mahomes is legitimately the best player in the league right now. Flacco was never even remotely close to that.

Hindsight,20-20.Flacco in that season connected often and long.He's kind of bagged out since.Any NFL team can't afford to empty the coffers like the Ravens did for him.That Ravens defense wasn't very good that season so Flacco wasn't the cripple you make him out to be

[847badgerfan]

Smoke and mirrors, and video cameras. Patriots brass and coaches should be suspended for 2020.

[MrNubbz]

They can't pin it on BB just that camera man.Would not doubt how ever he had directives from higher up

[Kris60]

Hindsight,20-20.Flacco in that season connected often and long.He's kind of bagged out since.Any NFL team can't afford to empty the coffers like the Ravens did for him.That Ravens defense wasn't very good that season so Flacco wasn't the cripple you make him out to be

It isn’t hindsight to say Flacco’s contract was risky.  Flacco had been thought of as a pretty good, but not really special QB his whole stay in Baltimore.  Then he had a great playoff run, won the SB, and the Ravens had really no other choice but to break the bank for him.  But it was a situation where I think everyone understood why Baltimore had to it.  If you aren’t going to pay the QB who just won you the SB then who are you going to pay for?

But to me there’s no doubt that how Mahomes is thought of now is much different than how Flacco was thought of then.  To me, the Ravens were rewarding him for the SB and crossing their fingers it all worked out. With Mahomes the Chiefs want to pay him because there is an expectation that wherever he goes he can change the course of a franchise.

[847badgerfan]

They can't pin it on BB just that camera man.Would not doubt how ever he had directives from higher up

Once is a mistake. Any more that once is a pattern. They just happened to get caught, again.


Remember Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" bulljive? Well, he left Bill's cameras in Foxboro.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Someone is going to pay Brady FAR more than he's worth. 

If he doesn't end up somewhere with a great defense, strong OL, and solid running game, it won't end well for him either.

[MrNubbz]

Once is a mistake. Any more that once is a pattern. They just happened to get caught, again.


Remember Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" bulljive? Well, he left Bill's cameras in Foxboro.

It's hard to believe he would take THAT chance to spy on the fookin' Bengals though.Tennessee,Baltimore or KC I'd believe

[MrNubbz]

Someone is going to pay Brady FAR more than he's worth.

If he doesn't end up somewhere with a great defense, strong OL, and solid running game, it won't end well for him either.

Ya think Unitas,Hadl,Namath had sad endings.Manning got lucky with all the pieces/parts surrounding him and he wasn't any where as healthy as Brady

[betarhoalphadelta]

Ya think Unitas,Hadl,Namath had sad endings.Manning got lucky with all the pieces/parts surrounding him and he wasn't any where as healthy as Brady

I'm happy Manning got his second ring. If they'd put players around him in Indy, he'd have gotten it much earlier in his career. 

But there's not a person that believes that they got that Super Bowl win based on his arm. His brain and his football IQ was still there, but his arm was merely serviceable by that point. He had the right team [ferocious defense] around him that it worked, though. 

[Mdot21]

Someone is going to pay Brady FAR more than he's worth.

If he doesn't end up somewhere with a great defense, strong OL, and solid running game, it won't end well for him either.

He's going to stay in New England. But if he leaves, the Chargers are a perfect fit for him.

Brady can still play at a high level. New England's problem this year wasn't Brady. Far from it. They had a revolving door at OL, their WR/TE group was also a revolving door and hands down the worst in the NFL in terms of talent, and they also lead the NFL in drops. Not to mention their running back room is mediocre. The only RB on that team that's actually above average is James White- and that's only as a 3rd down/change of pace/pass catching back. He's not a guy who you can hand the ball to 30 times a game like Derrick Henry or Zeke or an elite all-around guy like McCaffrey. Not even close. He's great at his little niche, but he's a far cry from an elite player. Really the offensive players around him in New England just flat out suck outside of James White and Eldeman- and those guys are great role players- not guys you can build an offense around.

Chargers have two great pass rushers in Ingram & Bosa and they are getting back what might just be the best all-around DB in the league back in Derwin James. And the Chargers have an elite young pass catching room with Keenan Allen & Mike Williams at WR and Hunter Henry at TE. Not to mention a better version of James White/pass catching RB in Austin Ekeler. And if Brady did go there and the Chargers can work out a deal to lock-up Melvin Gordon and get him back for good- that'd easily be the best RB that Brady has played with since he played with a 59 year old Corey Dillon.

Chargers would need to sign some F/A OL and maybe look for some help there in the draft as well. Chargers get Derwin James back healthy, get Melvin Gordon back in the fold, shore up the OL in F/A, trades, draft- and then sign Brady they could easily wind up in contention for a Super Bowl.

[Mdot21]

I'm happy Manning got his second ring. If they'd put players around him in Indy, he'd have gotten it much earlier in his career.

But there's not a person that believes that they got that Super Bowl win based on his arm. His brain and his football IQ was still there, but his arm was merely serviceable by that point. He had the right team [ferocious defense] around him that it worked, though.

Um what? I'm always amused when people say that. Peyton played with maybe more talent around him than maybe any elite QB in history outside of Kurt Warner. When Peyton got to Indy, Marshall Faulk & Marvin Harrison were already there and both of them were already Pro Bowl players before they'd ever heard of Peyton Manning. Both of them are in the Hall of Fame. When they traded away Marshall Faulk, the Colts replaced one NFL HOF RB with another one in NFL HOF RB Edgerin James. Who was his other WR opposite Marvin Harrison? Reggie God damn Wayne, that's who. Another guy that will probably be an NFL Hall of Famer. LOL. Not to mention his TE was Dallas Clark- who went on about a 5-6 year run where he was hands down the #3 TE in the league behind only Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates. And the Colts always had good to excellent OL's too lead by maybe the best center in the league during that time in Jeff Saturday.

Peyton got benched for Brock Osweiler the year the Broncos won the Super Bowl. He threw 9 TD's vs 17 INT's in the regular season and was completing like 57% of his passes. Peyton was total dogshit at that point. He was terrible. One of the all-time great defenses carried him to a second Super Bowl ring. A HOF caliber pass rusher in DeMarcus Ware was still an elite player at the time and put up 10.5 sacks and then you had another HOF pass rusher just entering his prime in Von Miller on the other side. That might've been the greatest pass rush duo in NFL history right there. Both those dudes are 1st ballot HOF'ers.

[MrNubbz]

Well perhaps the Chargers will get a following in there new digs.Kinda of sad at least to me NFL greed snuffed out two of the great Cali franchises of AFL lore Raiders-Chargers

[betarhoalphadelta]

Well perhaps the Chargers will get a following in there new digs.Kinda of sad at least to me NFL greed snuffed out two of the great Cali franchises of AFL lore Raiders-Chargers

Nobody gives a damn about the Chargers. They went from being the beloved San Diego Chargers to the football equivalent of the Clippers or Mets.

I think the Raiders might do well in Vegas, though. People in Vegas are about as classy as typical Raiders fans already, so it should be a good fit.

[MrNubbz]

Use to be an aura or mystique about them - not anymore.People in vegas are transparent and transplants.Vegas has Money but does the prospective fan base.Good on San Diego to spot the pathetic extortion.It's football not Air/Water/Food/Employment,I voted NO on both Sin Taxes here,we were already at 7.5% sales tax,I believed it to be rigged - seriously