2019-2020 NFL Thread

[Mdot21]

hopefully, the Chiefs can pay him and keep him

Oh they’ll keep him. He will be the highest paid player in NFL history very shortly. 

The question is what are the other pieces around Mahomes that they will be able to keep once they pay Mahomes. Going to be hard to field a team when Mahomes is making $40 million a year.

[MrNubbz]

Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walked

[CatsbyAZ]

When he didn’t have the play-action working he did absolutely nothing.

Pornstar Jimmy was 3 for 11 for 26 yards in the 4th QTR. He misfired pass after pass in the 4th when it mattered and he badly overthrew a WIDE OPEN Emmanuel Sanders for what very well could’ve been the game winning TD. He is not good.

I don’t think we’re disagreeing on the big picture – I agree Garoppolo isn’t very good, a 15 – 20 ranked league QB at best, and overrated especially in context of how much he’s paid – over $100M. But he’s not the reason the Niners loss last night.

For about the first 48 minutes of the game Garoppolo managed the position as well as you’re going to get from him, completing 18 – 21 with a passer rating higher than Mahomes at that point.

Garappolo is one of those journeyman level QBs that does well when everything else around him is going well – in other words a vastly overpaid caretaker of the QB position. In turn his level of play was doomed to tail once his fellow actors got caught up in their own mess: A) secondary leaving Hill open for 40 yards on a 3rd & 15, B) followed by a PI in endzone, C) Richard Sherman getting cooked by Sammie Watkins, and D) TE Kittle on a great pass from Garoppolo getting called for a late OPI on a could-go-eiter-way call, E) several instances of strange clock management by Shanahan that included a F) reluctance to keep Mostert’s momentum going and G) shelving the play-action. Garappolo and all but about 6 NFL QBs aren’t going to be able to overcome all of that negative chaos.

What also didn’t help during that stretch was the Chief’s late TD review not going the Niner’s way, plus two hits against Garappolo’s head that could’ve but maybe shouldn’t’ve been called.

All in all, given what he is, Garoppolo did his job well until flatlining on cue of everything else around him collapsing.

[bayareabadger]

Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walked

Joe Flacco is also bad 

[bayareabadger]

I don’t think we’re disagreeing on the big picture – I agree Garoppolo isn’t very good, a 15 – 20 ranked league QB at best, and overrated especially in context of how much he’s paid – over $100M. But he’s not the reason the Niners loss last night.

For about the first 48 minutes of the game Garoppolo managed the position as well as you’re going to get from him, completing 18 – 21 with a passer rating higher than Mahomes at that point.

Garappolo is one of those journeyman level QBs that does well when everything else around him is going well – in other words a vastly overpaid caretaker of the QB position. In turn his level of play was doomed to tail once his fellow actors got caught up in their own mess: A) secondary leaving Hill open for 40 yards on a 3rd & 15, B) followed by a PI in endzone, C) Richard Sherman getting cooked by Sammie Watkins, and D) TE Kittle on a great pass from Garoppolo getting called for a late OPI on a could-go-eiter-way call, E) several instances of strange clock management by Shanahan that included a F) reluctance to keep Mostert’s momentum going and G) shelving the play-action. Garappolo and all but about 6 NFL QBs aren’t going to be able to overcome all of that negative chaos.

Since I dialed back my attention to the NFL, QBs must have gotten much, much better. 

Anyway, if he's a journeyman, he's replaceable, so that would be good. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walked

Joe Flacco is also bad

Joe Flacco is one of those quarterbacks who get into the NFL [and stay there] based on being 6'6" with a rocket arm and the ability to throw a deep ball. 

John Elway loves those quarterbacks, even though the Broncos don't succeed with them.

[rook119]

Joe Flacco is one of those quarterbacks who get into the NFL [and stay there] based on being 6'6" with a rocket arm and the ability to throw a deep ball.

John Elway loves those quarterbacks, even though the Broncos don't succeed with them.

Eh that Ravens team that won the SB was as old as dirt. The fans, coaches and front office knew 2012 was the last year they'd have a chance to accomplish anything. If they had paid him something on the lines of 15M instead of 20M it wouldn't have mattered, they needed a rebuild.  Flacco had a good career, is 2-2 against the Pats in the playoffs. Beat a stacked Denver team that won 11 straight. 

The knee injury ended his career as a decent starting QB. If Elway would have watched any recent tape of him he would have noticed that his arm strength is shot, and he can't (or doesn't) step into throws anymore.  Pretty much all of his deep balls were underthrown at the end of his time in Balt. 

[ELA]

Even though we all know you likely won't win big with a good, but not great, QB off his rookie contract, you still never see NFL teams let that guy walk.  Trying to think of examples coming off their rookie deal?  Sort of Kirk Cousins, but even then they franchised him twice first.  Would the Cowboys dare do it with Dak?  

[Brutus Buckeye]

The Browns will pull the plug on a rookie QB if they don't immediately turn the franchise around in their first couple starts.

[MrNubbz]

Joe Flacco is also bad

Perhaps just not that season he connected deep often

[Mdot21]

Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walked

Huge difference. Mahomes is the best player in the league. Flacco honestly stunk during the regular season just about every year and then he had a fluky playoff run and they way overpaid him. Should’ve never done that. Mahomes is legitimately the best player in the league right now. Flacco was never even remotely close to that.

[Mdot21]

Since I dialed back my attention to the NFL, QBs must have gotten much, much better.

Anyway, if he's a journeyman, he's replaceable, so that would be good.

49ers can void his deal before F/A begins and he’ll only count $4 million against their cap. He got a huge contract but it was front loaded and it also had an escape hatch for them to get out without a huge cap hit. 

I’m not saying it’ll happen, but if I’m the 49ers I’m seriously thinking about cutting Pornstar Jimmy and going all in on signing Brady. 

[847badgerfan]

Your thing with Brady is getting kinda creepy.

[MrNubbz]

Maybe 6-7 yrs back but you don't cut a QB after you get to the big dance.And Brady as great as he's been can't avoid the ravages of time fore ever.