2019-2020 NFL Thread

[rook119]

Frank Gore is a heck of a RB. Still don't think he's a Hall of Famer though. Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame.

He might be #3 and ahead of Barry now, but he's not even in the same universe as Barry. They don't belong in the same sentence.

No one is in the same universe as Barry, who if not the GOAT, was the most exciting player to ever play the game. 

I think the HOF favors quantity over quality a bit too much but he'll probably exceed the 20K rushing/receiving mark and carry around a 4.2/4.3 avg/carry into retirement. So he's in and don't really have a beef w/ it. 


He's had an interesting career. Only exceeded the 300 carry mark once and to my knowledge wasn't ever really the short yardage guy (which helped his avg/carry). This could help explain why he never really fell off a cliff the day he turned 30. 

[rook119]

this Lamar Jackson guy is pretty good. He's what Michael Vick should've been. Not sure he's got quite the bazooka of an arm that Vick had, but man he is the closest thing to Vick that I've seen. Never thought I'd see a QB as fast as Vick ever again. Jackson might be faster in a straight line. Maybe not as shifty or elusive as Vick, but pure straight-line speed- he might have Vick beat.

yea he's been amazing, to think the idiot Ravens passed on the guy to take a 24 year old TE in the 1st round. how's that working out for them? 

[FearlessF]

my recollection is that Vick was faster, quicker, and shiftier than Lamar

Lamar seems to have a better head, but it's early in his career

Lamar also has the benefit of a pretty solid QB coach

[Mdot21]

my recollection is that Vick was faster, quicker, and shiftier than Lamar

Lamar seems to have a better head, but it's early in his career

Lamar also has the benefit of a pretty solid QB coach

Vick was definitely shifiter and quicker- he might've been the closest thing to Barry Sanders that I'd ever seen in terms of just elusiveness- and the dude played QB. Straight-line pure speed though- I think Lamar is faster.

[FearlessF]

it would have been a good race....... neither ran at the NFL combine

At his Pro Day workout, Vick ran the 40-yard dash in 4.33 seconds; his time has been clocked as low as 4.25, which is the fastest-ever for an NFL quarterback.

According to ESPN, the last time Jackson ran the 40 he came in at 4.34 seconds, but the Ravens quarterback offered a caveat.

“I ran it with turf toe, too,” Jackson told ESPN. “So, I don’t know what I really run.”

Jackson was timed at Louisville’s pro day in 2017 and was a full .08 seconds faster than his 2016 time, per the Courier-Journal.

[MrNubbz]

Browns should have fired Freddie Kitchens yesterday.I know they played the Ravens but they owned they 1st half but Baltimore scored 2 TDs in the last 1:07 0f the half.Then he took the Browns out of the game twice once in the 1st half once in the 2nd.The last two games in 3rd and 1yd situations Freddie calls flea flickers with the leading rusher in the NFL(Nick Chubb 1,400 yds) not getting the call  - both times they failed.Then he went for 2 pts when they didn't have to - forcing the Browns into a a 2 score situation with 8 minutes left.Can't believe this tub has one of 32 gigs in the country,He looks sloppy in appearence and evidently prepares and reacts worse.My freakin' head wants to explode,he has Jarvis Landry & Odell Beckham at WRs and Kareem Hunt & Nick Chubb in the BF and continues to miss either finding them or calling their numbers in crunch time.I don't agree with players arguing on the sidelines with their HC.But in Freddie's case I'll allow it

[rook119]

this Lamar Jackson guy is pretty good. He's what Michael Vick should've been. Not sure he's got quite the bazooka of an arm that Vick had, but man he is the closest thing to Vick that I've seen. Never thought I'd see a QB as fast as Vick ever again. Jackson might be faster in a straight line. Maybe not as shifty or elusive as Vick, but pure straight-line speed- he might have Vick beat.

I thought Vick was an excellent passer at Philly. Maybe if he spent his whole career w/ Andy Reid and didn't go to prison it might have been different.


good lawd - please Andy D. sign for the Steelers, we always thought you deserved a better team

[847badgerfan]

Lots of rumblings right now that Mitch Trubisky has played his last game at Soldier Field in a Bears uniform.

Bears fans got to see the QB that Bears' brass passed over to get this Trubisky clown. KC crushed them, in Chicago.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Has there ever been an NFL franchise with as bad of a track record as the Bears picking quarterbacks? 

[847badgerfan]

I don't follow enough NFL to really be able to answer that, but the Bears gotta be in the team photo of QB suckness.

[MrNubbz]

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I don't follow enough NFL to really be able to answer that, but the Bears gotta be in the team photo of QB suckness.

That's an award the Browns franchise can step forward to receive.As an adherent to college football Browns drafts are almost as torturing & tumultuous as the Season.The Browns drafted Brandon Weeden no1 in 2012 and he turned 29 his rookie season.Then to rub more salt in the wound they take Johnnie Football no1 - 2 yrs later.They also took Brady Quinn No 1 in 2007 - same year they made Joe Thomas a No 1 also.So you see they are capable of paying attention.There is a Devil - I'm convinced of it,I hear him cackling during Browns games and drafts.Oh lets not forget Charlie Frye out of Akron they took him with a 3rd rd I believe.We'll never know about Tim Coach as he practically got killed.But at least he walked away with about 15 million and a Playboy Centerfold Wife

[Abba]

As a Browns fan, I am just happy to also be a Buckeye fan.  I don't really allow myself to get emotionally invested in the Browns the way I do with college sports, so I can usually just laugh off the Myles Garrett incident, the 0-16 season, and many bad drafts. 

So I'll just pick a team to root for once the playoffs start as I do every year.  I think I like the Ravens this year.  Even as a rival of the Browns, I enjoy seeing their college style offense and I appreciate Harbaugh being willing to go for it on 4th and short more often than other teams.

[Mdot21]

how the hell do the Dolphins suck every year yet beat the Patriots in a crazy game every year? Dolphins just knocked New England out of the #2 seed and getting a bye week in the playoffs. The DOLPHINS.

Oh and in a shock to absolutely no one- Freddie Kitchens aka Larry the Cable Guy is fired from the Browns. Great move to fire him IF they hire a legit coach to replace him.

[MrNubbz]

I caught the end of the Fins-pats,well now I'm back in a survivor pool because everyone went out with the NE - loss.So Long Freddie but you did it to yourself.I don't care if the BROWNS hire the Rev.Jim or Ron Rivera,anybody to get them over the hump.Damn shame Shanahan stopped here for a cup of coffee a few yrs back