2019-2020 NFL Thread

[NorthernOhioBuckeye]

I'm sure Freddie doesn't OK cheap/dumb crap that hurts the team as a whole.This is on Garrett and him alone real ignorant move

I'm not saying he condones it, but he has lost control of the team. And the number of penalties they get is part of the proof. 

I remember in an interview earlier in the year when he was asked how he would handle OBJ and his ego, Kitchen's said something to the effect "I just let them be who they are." Well apparently, they are a bunch of undisciplined thugs. Whatever he is doing to reign them in, if anything, is not working. He either needs to get serious about these things or the Browns need to part ways with him. 

[ELA]

By all accounts Suh was a great guy and a model citizen through his time at Nebraska and early NFL career.  He just somehow lost the ability to turn it off on the field.

[Brutus Buckeye]

He'd've only gotten suspended for four games, if he did the exact same thing to his wife or girlfriend.

[TyphonInc]

He'd have a stronger legal case, had he not tried to pull Garrett's helmet off first.

+1

Watching the game live, the announcers made one comment on how Rudolph initiated the whole thing by yanking on Garrett's helmet first. They they changed their tune quickly. Stopped showing the initial confrontation. Acted confused as to why Garrett would go bonkers and commit assault. And even went so far to theorize that Rudolph mush have gotten his hand stuck under the helmet?!?! WTF!

My perspective: The game is over. But, Pittsburgh is still trying to to sling the ball. So Cleveland is still trying to sack the QB. Garrett gets there right as the ball is thrown away and tackles Rudolph. You can see Rudolph get upset, starts barking and ripping at Garrett's helmet.

Garrett then respond in the worse way possible, and rips back at Rudolph's helmet taking it off. Rudolph then escalates by attacking Garrett. To which Garrett responds in the worse way possible using the helmet as a weapon. Rudolph then turns around and whines that the guy he is attacking hit him. That clown needs to be suspended and fined as well. 

Garrett should be done for the season, largest fine for on field behavior etc. etc. But to say we are going to sue you for attacking you first it total B.S. Both Men are wrong, both men should be penalized. (Garrett much larger for a much worse offense.)

[847badgerfan]

I wonder what Joe Thomas would have said.

[SuperMario]

That is interesting. However, having watched their games this year, how many QB roughing penalties has Garret had this year? On that play, long after the pass was gone, Garret kept going until he had the QB on the ground. You would think that after multiple penalties for roughing this year, he would be cognoscente of the possibility of picking up yet another penalty and just let it go. Especially with what, 8 secs left in the game? How dumb does someone have to be.

You're not wrong here. We talked about this at my office after I posted and that's certainly been the case. I was more referencing his character off the field. Being in the heart of Browns' country, i know a lot of people that have met or interacted with him and everyone has had very positive things to say about him as a person. Like ELA stated, maybe he's a guy that can't turn it off on the field. On the field, as you noted, he's definitely had issues knowing when to stop. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I don't usually comment here because I don't follow the NFL like I follow CFB but I am a Browns Fan at heart and this season feels so much better than those of the recent past but at the same time it feels like it has already turned into a "what could have been" situation. 

Here are the Browns' 16 opponents this year sorted by their current records:


I don't know if this is still true but I heard not long ago that the Browns had played the toughest schedule to-date in the NFL.  That wouldn't surprise me. They have played four games against teams that are 7-2 or better (1-3) and a total of eight games against teams that are at least .500 (3-5). 

I feel like the losses to the 49ers, the Patriots, and the Seahawks are understandable especially since at least the last two were reasonably competitive.  The win over the Ravens looks like an anomaly now, but it is a REALLY solid win.  Overall, being 3-5 against teams that are .500 or better really isn't bad.  The loss that really stings is that loss to Denver. 

The Browns are still mathematically in the hunt and they are 2-0 in the division which could make a big difference as the first two tiebreakers are H2H and divisional record if they end up in a tie for the Division but the problem is that getting into a tie with Baltimore seems pretty far fetched right now.  The Browns trail the Ravens by 3.5 games with only 6/7 to go so in addition to the Browns playing extremely well down the stretch, they would need the Ravens to do no better than 3-4. 

The Browns have six games to go:

• Four are games they certainly should win against bad teams (Cincy twice, Miami, Zona)
• One is a rematch in Pittsburgh against a .500 team that the Browns beat the first time
• One is a rematch in Cleveland against a 7-2 Baltimore team that the Browns shredded on the road

It isn't crazy to think that they could finish at least 4-2 but that only gets them to 8-8 and that will not be enough to get to January.  Realistically they will almost certainly have to finish at least 5-1 and I haven't seen enough consistency out of this team to make me think that they can. 

[MrNubbz]

In 2 weeks Browns/Steelers play in Pittsburgh,Networks will charge big bucks to advertise that time slot,the ratings will be thru the roof.

[FearlessF]

Cousins led a nice comeback

[Brutus Buckeye]

The CFL Playoffs get underway today, on Espn2.

It will be the Hamilton Tiger Cats vs the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

Let there be snow.

[rook119]

Damn even for a team I hate this is just depressing 


https://twitter.com/nbc4sports/status/1196180728603656192?s=21

[Mdot21]

Damn even for a team I hate this is just depressing


https://twitter.com/nbc4sports/status/1196180728603656192?s=21

that's just sad.

Haskins needs to get the F out of Washington. What a god damn mess that team is.

[FearlessF]

As we've discussed

O-line play might be at an alltime low in the NFL

not just in Washington

[rook119]

I don't usually comment here because I don't follow the NFL like I follow CFB but I am a Browns Fan at heart and this season feels so much better than those of the recent past but at the same time it feels like it has already turned into a "what could have been" situation. 

Here are the Browns' 16 opponents this year sorted by their current records:


I don't know if this is still true but I heard not long ago that the Browns had played the toughest schedule to-date in the NFL.  That wouldn't surprise me. They have played four games against teams that are 7-2 or better (1-3) and a total of eight games against teams that are at least .500 (3-5). 

I feel like the losses to the 49ers, the Patriots, and the Seahawks are understandable especially since at least the last two were reasonably competitive.  The win over the Ravens looks like an anomaly now, but it is a REALLY solid win.  Overall, being 3-5 against teams that are .500 or better really isn't bad.  The loss that really stings is that loss to Denver. 

The Browns are still mathematically in the hunt and they are 2-0 in the division which could make a big difference as the first two tiebreakers are H2H and divisional record if they end up in a tie for the Division but the problem is that getting into a tie with Baltimore seems pretty far fetched right now.  The Browns trail the Ravens by 3.5 games with only 6/7 to go so in addition to the Browns playing extremely well down the stretch, they would need the Ravens to do no better than 3-4. 

The Browns have six games to go:

• Four are games they certainly should win against bad teams (Cincy twice, Miami, Zona)
• One is a rematch in Pittsburgh against a .500 team that the Browns beat the first time
• One is a rematch in Cleveland against a 7-2 Baltimore team that the Browns shredded on the road

It isn't crazy to think that they could finish at least 4-2 but that only gets them to 8-8 and that will not be enough to get to January.  Realistically they will almost certainly have to finish at least 5-1 and I haven't seen enough consistency out of this team to make me think that they can.

no way a team w/ an 8-8 record gets in. could be around 4-5 finishing at 9-7 though (Bills, Raiders, Texans/colts).  Steeler game is an elimination game for both teams.