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FearlessF

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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2018, 07:55:58 PM »
but, only by 3

hence, fluke
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2018, 07:57:34 PM »
Better score, worse opponent. Push. 
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2018, 07:58:48 PM »
can't be a push, or they wouldn't get in
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2018, 08:18:49 PM »
When OSU lost to MSU, it was "that's the ONE game that you couldn't lose! It kept you out of the Ccg" 

So this year the Buckeyes lose to 6-6 Purdue, and it's "you can't lose to a .500 team and expect to get it"

Okay? So you are allowed one loss, but it has to be to a team over .500, but not quite good enough to win the divisional tiebreaker? OSU played like two teams that fit that narrow qualification zone all season. 

Balderdash. Had OSU lost to Penn St instead of Purdue, it no doubt would have been "you can't lose to one of the only good teams that you play and expect to get in!" 

Essentially if you are in the Big Ten then you have to be able to navigate your schedule without tripping over any of the road apples, or else you will be buried behind a two-loss non-champion from the SEC. 

Fine. If that's what has to happen, then cop up to it instead of hiding behind all these weasel arguments based on ever-changing goalposts. 
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2018, 08:29:59 PM »
I think it was that the Purdue loss wasn't the only game the Bucks looked like crap

Maryland, Nebraska, and the defense looked bad most of the season

but, yes, if they only lose by 3 to the Boilers on the road..... they finish in 5th place ahead of Georgia :)
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2018, 08:33:21 PM »
See how Scott Frost and others voted in the final coaches poll.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/ballots/

Frost voted his former team fifth in the country. UCF ranked seventh in the composite rankings among coaches, and the same within the Associated Press. The Knights sat at eight in the final College Football Playoff rankings.

For Frost, UCF ranked in ahead of both Oklahoma and Georgia in the polls. During Frost’s final season with UCF, an undefeated run and win over Auburn, UCF finished seventh in the coaches poll.

Also of note, the Nebraska football coach showed a respect for his own conference. Ohio State, a team which Nebraska took to the brink this season, received a No. 4 ranking with Michigan at No. 8, Penn State at No. 9, Northwestern at 20 and Iowa at 21.

Frost is not the only coach whose final poll drew intrigue. Alabama and Nick Saban voted Georgia fifth a day after lauding the Bulldogs as a playoff team.
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2018, 09:03:17 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 03, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
I think it was that the Purdue loss wasn't the only game the Bucks looked like crap

Maryland, Nebraska, and the defense looked bad most of the season

but, yes, if they only lose by 3 to the Boilers on the road..... they finish in 5th place ahead of Georgia :)
Not many teams blow out everyone that they play. It's not easy to do. While OSU should be better than the rest of the Big Ten on paper, there is always going to be one or two teams that play possessed against the Buckeyes. 
I don't know of too many other teams that can "look bad" going 12-1, but whatever. 
And yes, OSU shouldn't have cracked the top four this year, but being buried behind Georgia is ridiculous. The Dawgs lost their LSU game by twenty, lost a second game, and failed to win a Conference title. 
It's an indictment on the league more than anything else. They are basically saying that you guys reside somewhere between the ACC and AAC with regards to the level of competition that you offer up. 

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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2018, 09:36:28 PM »
It’s a rouse.  If Oklahoma lost, OSU was in.

The rest is just spin.   They got the top 4 right.

They were never going to put a two loss, non conf champ, who only played like what 8 or 9 power 5 teams, and who lost to their two toughest opponents, in over a 12-1 power 5 conference champ who had the most power 5 wins, tied with Clemson) of any team in the country.   
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2018, 09:42:23 PM »
Their final rankings suggest that they were indeed going to put Georgia in ahead of OSU if Oklahoma lost. 
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2018, 09:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 03, 2018, 09:42:23 PM
Their final rankings suggest that they were indeed going to put Georgia in ahead of OSU if Oklahoma lost.
Yes, they are very clever.    But never.  Leave out 3 conferences for a 2 loss team with very few wins over power 5 teams.  
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2018, 09:55:23 PM »
The playoff committee says that they would have put Georgia in over OSU, while an anonymous poster on the internet says that they wouldn't. 

Hmmm, who to believe... 
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2018, 10:12:36 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 03, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
It’s a rouse.  If Oklahoma lost, OSU was in.

The rest is just spin.   They got the top 4 right.
I think you are right.  My question is still:  why spin it that way?
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2018, 10:30:02 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 03, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
I think you are right.  My question is still:  why spin it that way?
Agreed.  Oklahoma and OSU were so similar, Georgia had to either be #4 or #6.  I think they thought Georgia was the better team, but didn't have the resume, so they were going to be #5 either way.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Rankings
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2018, 10:32:54 PM »
Another interesting caveat is that all of Urban's NC teams have had a loss, while none of his undefeated teams have ever been crowned.  
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