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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2018, 10:18:52 AM »

The Browns should officially change their name to the Clowns, and just roll with it from this point forward. 
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #155 on: April 27, 2018, 10:30:10 AM »
Personally I find the comparisons of Mayfield to Manziel lazy. Do any kind of research and you find they are not alike.

I am more than happy with the Mayfield pick. Other than his height, he has everything you need in a QB. Statistically and all the analytics he is head and shoulders over the other QBs. On top of that is his competitiveness is through the roof. And even with the height issue, he had fewer passes batted down than the other 3 QBs

As to Ward vs Chubb. I probably gone with Chubb, but Ward is a good pick there for need. 

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #156 on: April 27, 2018, 10:46:49 AM »
I'm guessing Mayfield is the best QB in the class, but I'm just guessing

just because a QB doesn't play well in Cleveland doesn't mean the QB can't play well
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #157 on: April 27, 2018, 10:48:22 AM »
I bet there is a decent correlation between number of 5 star recruits and first round selections.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #158 on: April 27, 2018, 10:55:32 AM »
I'm guessing Mayfield is the best QB in the class, but I'm just guessing

just because a QB doesn't play well in Cleveland doesn't mean the QB can't play well
What is an example of a QB that went onto play at a high level, after an unsuccessful stint with the Browns? 
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #159 on: April 27, 2018, 11:51:02 AM »
I think Mayfield is less likely to bust than Manziel, but still fairly likely.  Manziel was a 99.99% bust.
agree with this. much of that has to do with the team that selected him.
not really a fan of any of the qb's this draft, tbh.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #160 on: April 27, 2018, 12:21:24 PM »
As a long-suffering Browns fan I'm not happy with this year's draft.  

IMHO:  A high pick (like the Browns' #1 and #4 picks) is great for a good-but-not-great team that needs to focus on one particular area of weakness in order to improve to the point of being a Super Bowl contender.  

The Browns went 1-31 over the past two years.  They do not need to focus on one particular area of weakness, they need help nearly everywhere.  In that situation the best thing to do with a high pick is to trade it down for multiple first/second round picks this year and next.  

The NFL Draft is an art, not a science.  Even the best draft experts make mistakes from time to time.  The Browns can ill afford to make mistakes.  As such, they would have been better off to trade down to get more picks.  With more picks the mistakes are more likely to balance out with the homeruns.  

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 27, 2018, 12:31:02 PM »
What is an example of a QB that went onto play at a high level, after an unsuccessful stint with the Browns?
example?  you want an example???
just wait until Johnny numb nuts gets back in the league
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2018, 01:03:16 PM »
Browns kinda bungled the hit. Again.

Ward will be a good player but not sure he was worthy of the #4 pick. 

They should've taken Chubb who is a freak athlete at 6'4+, 268 and runs 4.65. He was the best pass rusher in this draft. They had an opportunity to have Garett and Chubb as their book-ends under rookie deals for the next 4-5 years. And they blew it. 

With the #4 pick they should've taken Roquan Smith of Georgia. He's going to be a sure-fire stud at LB for years to come. 

Fortify the front 7 with speed and guys with rush ability and that goes a long way.

Really two ways to win in the NFL now. You have to have an elite QB or elite pass rush to disrupt the QB. You take Mayfield if you think he's going to be a Brady or Rodgers. I don't think he's going to be that good unfortunately.

Elway learned this lesson and built a terrifying defense with Von Miller and Demarcus Ware that won his team a Super Bowl. That's why he passed on the other QBs at 5 and went with Chubb.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #163 on: April 27, 2018, 01:39:54 PM »
I would nearly always trade down for more picks under the principle I'm not smart enough to select the "sure fire" guys in the top ten.  I also would draft big uglies first, and then LBs and DBs and THEN offensive backs.  Even an average running back in the NFL is exceptionally good and will be fine behind a great OL.

Those two ND OLs had a rough game against UGA.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #164 on: April 27, 2018, 03:54:34 PM »
As to Ward vs Chubb. I probably gone with Chubb, but Ward is a good pick there for need.
.Well Dorsey did trade that DB to NE creating that need a good line can make the backfield look good rather than the other way around.Elway has done a good job in Denver and they sucked up Chubb pretty quickly.Would have grabbed Darnold with the 1st pick,Mayfield had maybe the best line in CFB.The left tackle was what 6'7" but the Browns have a decent line.Evidently the last DB to be taken that high was Charles Woodson 20 yrs ago.Ward has top end speed.Browns should pick both sides of the line and build out from there.I give the Browns a "C" in the 1st round,hope I'm wrong
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #165 on: April 27, 2018, 04:17:04 PM »
I would nearly always trade down for more picks under the principle I'm not smart enough to select the "sure fire" guys in the top ten.  
I agree and it isn't just that you or I aren't smart enough.  There are a lot of things that are difficult or impossible to measure.  Even the best draft experts screw up sometimes.  

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #166 on: April 27, 2018, 04:18:44 PM »
I would nearly always trade down for more picks under the principle I'm not smart enough to select the "sure fire" guys in the top ten.  I also would draft big uglies first, and then LBs and DBs and THEN offensive backs.  Even an average running back in the NFL is exceptionally good and will be fine behind a great OL.

Those two ND OLs had a rough game against UGA.
Maybe, I dunno.  Nelson's blitz pickup against Georgia is one of his highlight plays.  It was impressive, for a guard to annihilate a blitzer on the other side of a play.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #167 on: April 27, 2018, 04:21:46 PM »
One play out of 60......cool.  
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