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Topic: 2018 Michigan Season thread

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2017, 03:33:38 PM »
Wow, I hadn't realized that Michigan didn't beat a single team this year that finished above .500.

All the more reason to care about a bowl game, I suppose.
I think I saw Michigan and Missouri were the only bowl eligible teams to get there without beating a single team with a winning record.
Granted Missouri also had some meh losses, while all 4 of Michigan's losses we're to top 15 teams.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2017, 04:57:43 PM »
I think I saw Michigan and Missouri were the only bowl eligible teams to get there without beating a single team with a winning record.
Granted Missouri also had some meh losses, while all 4 of Michigan's losses we're to top 15 teams.
And 3 of them were with the J'OKe QB starting. 4th was with the J'OKe finishing up the 2nd half after Peters got knocked out.
There is a huge difference in that entire team when the J'OKe is playing vs. Speight or Peters. It permeates throughout that entire team. I don't think anybody on that team believes in J'OKe a little bit at all and are just in a "great, what is the dipshit gonna f up next" mode. Having a QB that the entire team believes in makes a huge world of difference on a team.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2017, 05:14:44 PM »
so, with 8 wins, Michigan had a weak schedule 
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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2017, 05:16:40 PM »
They lose Hurst, maybe Winovich, but Gary is turning into the beast we knew he would and Soloman looks to be another outstanding inside guy.  
yeah, Winovich said he's not sure if he'll be back, but I have a hard time believing he's leaving just based on the fact that he's probably not going to be a big-time NFL draft prospect. If he came out after this year I'd think probably 4th round.

He came off the bench in a situational role as a RS Soph. and this was his first year starting. He's a really good player but he could add 10-15 pounds of muscle, improve his run defense and try to really take his game up to the next level and find himself in the 1st or 2nd round.

Look at Mo Hurst. He played his way into a lot of mock drafts in the 1st. I'll be surprised if he's not at least a 2nd round pick. Had he come out last year he was probably a 3rd or 4th. Sometimes coming back helps, others it hurts.

If you're a projected 1st round pick go, if not- should probably stay IMO. 

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2017, 05:18:37 PM »
so, with 8 wins, Michigan had a weak schedule
I wouldn't say that the schedule was weak at all. @Wisconsin, Ohio State, and @Penn State are top 10 teams. Michigan State is a top 15 team and rivalry game.

Alabama has played one top 15 or rated better team. And they just lost to them. If Michigan's schedule is weak, then BAMA's is charmin soft.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2017, 05:21:07 PM »
oh, I agree the 4 losses were darn fine quality teams

but, 8 games vs crap teams?

by comparison, the Huskers didn't play 4 teams as good as Michigan's top 4, but they did play 6 teams that finished over 500
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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2017, 05:44:14 PM »
Wilton Speight to transfer. My guess? Harbaugh probably told him the job will be Peters' in 2018- so Wilton is going to go somewhere we he can start. CMU or Eastern or maybe back to Virginia.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2017, 07:09:30 PM »
Well you've gotten your wish it's either Peters or McCaffrey
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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2017, 07:23:31 PM »
Isn't Sugar Shane Morris at CMU? 

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2017, 09:47:35 PM »
Well you've gotten your wish it's either Peters or McCaffrey
it's going to be Peters. McCaffrey the back-up.
I'd actually want Speight around as the back-up. I think Speight is a solid P5 back up QB. J'OKe shouldn't ever sniff the P5- he can't play. At all. He's Shane Morris without the arm talent. Speight can be a quality back-up. Should've never been a starter- Michigan just didn't have a viable QB in 2016.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2017, 02:53:12 PM »
With the old regime at UCLA moving on, Harbaugh should rehire Jedd Fisch back on as OC. Fisch's work with the offense was the lone bright spot on that otherwise catatonic coaching staff. Total Offense improved from 91st nationally to 21st. Bring Fisch back for a few years before he gets hired into a head coaching gig someday. The guy makes the most of anywhere he goes.


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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2017, 03:05:13 PM »
With the old regime at UCLA moving on, Harbaugh should rehire Jedd Fisch back on as OC. Fisch's work with the offense was the lone bright spot on that otherwise catatonic coaching staff. Total Offense improved from 91st nationally to 21st. Bring Fisch back for a few years before he gets hired into a head coaching gig someday. The guy makes the most of anywhere he goes.
I'm down with this 110%. 
He needs to demote or dump Drevno and let Pep take a HC job somewhere and bring Fisch back.

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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2017, 03:14:26 PM »
It's too bad that fox sports' Brady Quinn appears to have been peddling a little fake news.
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Re: 2018 Michigan Off-Season thread
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2017, 06:40:48 PM »
one of the "insiders" over on the Michigan rivals site is saying Drevno and Pep Hamilton are going to take other jobs this off-season. I think that's a win for Michigan as long as they can land someone like Jedd Fisch to come in and be the OC.

Greg Frey is a heck of an OL coach. When he was here before with RichRod they actually built really solid OL's and recruited and developed Taylor Lewan and Mike Schofield- a starting LT/RT tandem that went in the 1st and 3rd round of the same NFL draft. Last time Michigan had tackles drafted by the NFL was with those two. Frey did a heckuva job at Indiana as well producing NFL O-linemen after he left Michigan.

Really think Drevno is in over his skies as the OC and OL coach and it affects his ability to coach the OL. Probably a bad move to make a guy who had never been anything but an OL coach in his entire coaching career the OC. And I don't think you need two OL coaches who have never worked together before trying to adjust and gel on the fly during a season. Might be a case of too many cooks in the kitchen- where Drevno teaching one thing and Frey teaching another. Make Frey the sole OL coach and let him coach the OL's the way he likes and implement the blocking schemes he likes, hire Jeff Fisch as the OC, re-assign Harbaugh's son back to TE's, and go find a real RB coach who can teach the backs how to properly pass block- and I think a lot of the problems with the offense will probably start to get solved.
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