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Topic: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #154 on: November 10, 2018, 10:01:32 PM »
Dan Roushar was likely encouraged to look around.  I do wonder if Dantonio would have pulled the trigger if he hadn't landed an NFL RB coach job.

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #155 on: November 16, 2018, 08:36:29 AM »
MSU and Washington finalize a home and home for 2028 and 2031.  I assume the game in Seattle will kick at 11:00 PM ET, and the return game won't be at noon.

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #156 on: November 19, 2018, 11:02:32 PM »
RS Junior OT Noah Listermann will graduate and not return for a 5th year.

He was a late riser in the recruiting rankings, choosing MSU over UW and a late OSU offer.  He joined LJ Scott in that 2015 class as OH guys who chose MSU over OSU, and some thought they were the two best players in MSUs class.

Instead Listermann never once saw the field in four years.  OL recruiting is such a crapshoot.

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #157 on: November 30, 2018, 01:58:17 PM »
I was watching some highlights from the 2015 Big Ten Championship today, and something dawned on me.  Maybe the offensive problems go all the way to the top, nothing was ever fixed, and Connor Cook just covered up a lot of issues.

The 2012 MSU team was the 7-6 team that wasted a top 5 S&P+ defense with a garbage offense.  2013 started, and it looked like more of the same.  I think MSU had more defensive scores than offensive through 3 games.  They insert Cook, and after a shaky first start against Notre Dame, he finds his legs, and the offense starts rolling with that trip to Iowa City (with a couple bumps).  Offense continues to be good through 2014 and 2015, until Cook gets knocked out of the Maryland game with an injury...

MSU struggles in that one to score 24, with 7 coming on a defensive score, and 7 prior to Cook's injury.  They then pull off the nuts 17-14 win in Columbus without Cook, and largely without offense.  Have one good game against Penn State with Cook back, then apparently he reinjured the shoulder in the Championship Game against Iowa.  Can't throw the ball mroe than 10-15 yards per some reports.  MSU wins, but by scoring 16 points.  He tries to play through the injury again in the Cotton Bowl, and they get shut out by Bama.  We all know the disaster that was 2016.  While 2017 "seemed" to fix some things, really the only difference between 2017 and 2018 for MSU was that MSU won a bunch of low scoring games in 2017 that they lost in 2018.  They won 4 games (Iowa, Michigan, Indiana and Maryland) where they score 17 points or less.  Really this offense has been a compete mess since 2012 without a HEALTHY Connor Cook.  

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #158 on: December 08, 2018, 11:50:22 PM »
Messiah deWeaver was the starting QB for the JUCO national champs.  Probably would have gotten a ton of PT in East Lansing this year.  Don't think the staff would have rolled out an injured Lewerke as much if he was the Plan B.

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Re: Michigan State 2018 Season Thread
« Reply #159 on: December 08, 2018, 11:52:02 PM »
Messiah deWeaver was the starting QB for the JUCO national champs.  Probably would have gotten a ton of PT in East Lansing this year.  Don't think the staff would have rolled out an injured Lewerke as much if he was the Plan B.
And for good measure, a former MSU commit who lost his scholarship offer when he got arrested and jailed as a HS senior was the starting QB for the D2 national champs today.

 

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