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ELA

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2017, 03:31:15 PM »
yes, and even worse if Frost (#2) turned them down to go to UNL
Yes to 1, no to 2.  If he hadn't been a UNL alum, then I'd agree.  But it's his alma mater, and it's still Nebraska.  It's not like he spurned them to go home to Kansas.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2017, 03:50:50 PM »
Chip Kelly is probably a better fit for UCLA than Florida. 

He knows the Pac 12, and successfully recruited CA talent to Oregon, of all places. 

Me? Personally I'd pick Florida. Better recruiting, lower cost of living, etc. 

I won't be waiting by my phone, though. 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2017, 03:56:04 PM »
Yes to 1, no to 2.  If he hadn't been a UNL alum, then I'd agree.  But it's his alma mater, and it's still Nebraska.  It's not like he spurned them to go home to Kansas.
I understand, but I also understand Chip going to LA.
whenever your #1 and #2 picks turn you down its a bad thing
settling for #3 or #4 leads to guys that have less of a chance to succeed
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2017, 03:59:52 PM »
Sumlin gone
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2017, 04:16:53 PM »
And group texted his players last time he jumped jobs.  And has held about five dream jobs.

That said, I don't get firing him right now.  If anything, ASU vastly overachieved to get to 7-5.  That roster, on paper, was awful.  Granted he's been there long enough that it's his fault the roster got so bad.


Agree. Firing Todd G now seems to ignore aspects of the mini-turnaround that took place in 2017 and for all practical purposes would've continued into 2018. The awful defense Todd G was forced to fix was playing night and day better in certain games (Vs Utah, Vs Washington) and in many other games were playing with a consistency not seen since 2014. And I thought Todd G's development of QB Wilkins coinciding with successfully strategizing the offense for Wilkins' brand of game management was solid throughout the course of the season. On the other hand his offense went through stretches of imbalance that directly cost ASU games, specifically against UCLA, where at times the star receiver Harry would disappear despite overmatching the Bruin's defensive backfield or the running game would disappear when UCLA couldn't stop their RBs.

Point is if Todd G's staff were kept intact and if the more experienced roster meant more consistency I think it would've been worth keeping Todd G another year. I would've liked to see how it would've gone because Todd G's tenure is now the third Sun Devil coaching cycle I've experience where a coach was fired amidst moderate success; in Dirk Koetter's case I wanted to see how one more season would've turned out, but not in Erickson's.

The ASU program is in need of stability and an escape from the college football's poverty cycle of firing/hiring a new coach every half-decade.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2017, 04:41:03 PM »

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2017, 04:47:59 PM »
whenever your #1 and #2 picks turn you down its a bad thing
settling for #3 or #4 leads to guys that have less of a chance to succeed
not entirely true.

USC whiffed on about 4 potential hires before they had to "settle" on Pete Carroll. Turns out that was probably the best hire they ever made.

Sometimes getting turned down by your first option is a blessing in disguise.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2017, 04:50:55 PM »
Yes to 1, no to 2.  If he hadn't been a UNL alum, then I'd agree.  But it's his alma mater, and it's still Nebraska.  It's not like he spurned them to go home to Kansas.
I'd still say no to either as long as they wind up with Mullen. Chip probably wasn't a good fit in Gainseville. I think he'd have won for sure because he's a great coach, but he wouldn't have been it in for the long haul and he'd probably hate living there. Mullen fits that job to a T. He's coached at UF. He's been a head coach in the SEC and had success at a place like Mississippi State- which isn't easy to do. I'd say Mullen would be a better hire for UF than Frost.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2017, 04:56:19 PM »
Is Graham the guy who told his player to lay on the ball till the clock expired? Yah, no love loss for that @ss h@t.
I've told you multiple times that NEVER happened. Jfc.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2017, 04:57:36 PM »
Sumlin to Miss State?
If he couldn't win at aTm, what would he do at a place like msu in the same division? Ouch.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2017, 04:57:56 PM »
Our athletic director is stupid. Firing TG was beyond stupid. I'm not happy about this at all.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2017, 04:58:53 PM »
I've told you multiple times that NEVER happened. Jfc.
Never.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2017, 04:59:24 PM »
If he couldn't win at aTm, what would he do at a place like msu in the same division? Ouch.
lotta rumors that Sumlin might land in Arizona State.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2017, 05:01:22 PM »
Never.

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Last I checked there's still no asterisk in the official record books. 
But no, no matter how bad Ty wishes TG actually told a player to lay on the ball that it absolutely 100% false.
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