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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #126 on: November 29, 2018, 04:40:14 PM »
Quote from: fezzador on November 29, 2018, 03:06:37 PM
Not sure if this was fake news or not, but I remember a letter from a former AD being leaked saying they were trying to make Auburn "the" team in Alabama.
All I can say about that is, they'd have better luck trying to paint Georgia orange and blue.

By Rick Karle | November 27, 2018 at 4:03 PM CST - Updated November 28 at 7:30 AM
AUBURN, AL (WBRC) - Auburn football coach Gus Malzahn has agreed in principle to accept a reduced contract buyout to remain at the university. WBRC FOX6 Sports has confirmed an initial report from Auburn Undercover that Malzahn will see his $32 million buyout reduced by an unspecified amount. A source close to Auburn University also tells WBRC that Malzahn has agreed that Auburn will effectively end paying buyouts for assistant coaches, thus forcing Malzahn to pay buyouts himself for any assistant coach that he seeks to dismiss.

http://www.wbrc.com/2018/11/27/gus-malzahn-accept-reduced-buyout-remain-auburn/?fbclid=IwAR0axmVp3lo6ABXJBSJKAIRY5pVXSWcKa_jbGflQX8C71LfAafrngRQOWC8
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #127 on: November 29, 2018, 06:21:43 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 29, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
Kingsbury hired as OC by USC
Great hire for them. 
Harbaugh is a dumb bitch for not even trying to hire Kilff. 
If he doesn’t dump Pep Hamilton, I’m not watching a single game in 2019.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #128 on: November 29, 2018, 07:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 29, 2018, 06:21:43 PM
Great hire for them.
Harbaugh is a dumb bitch for not even trying to hire Kilff.
If he doesn’t dump Pep Hamilton, I’m not watching a single game in 2019.
Imagine having Dave Warner and Jim Bollman.
Some rumors that Kingsbury is also off the record coach in waiting for 2020.  Talk about failing up 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #129 on: November 29, 2018, 07:36:02 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 29, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
Imagine having Dave Warner and Jim Bollman.
Some rumors that Kingsbury is also off the record coach in waiting for 2020.  Talk about failing up
 Not sure there’s much difference. Both our offensive coaches suck.
Kliff K should stick to being an OC. He’s not cut out for being a HC. Not every one is. I don’t know why these guys just can’t stay in their lanes. RichRod would’ve been an all-timer had he just stuck to OC. 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #130 on: November 29, 2018, 07:53:31 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 29, 2018, 07:36:02 PM
Not sure there’s much difference. Both our offensive coaches suck.
Kliff K should stick to being an OC. He’s not cut out for being a HC. Not every one is. I don’t know why these guys just can’t stay in their lanes. RichRod would’ve been an all-timer had he just stuck to OC.

Our views I’m sure are shaped by our personal experiences with him but Rod was far from a disaster as a HC.  He’s 118-83 (.587).  There’s a shit ton of guys who have coached major college football who would love to have that record on their Wikipedia page.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #131 on: November 29, 2018, 08:45:31 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on November 29, 2018, 07:53:31 PM
Our views I’m sure are shaped by our personal experiences with him but Rod was far from a disaster as a HC.  He’s 118-83 (.587).  There’s a shit ton of guys who have coached major college football who would love to have that record on their Wikipedia page.
He had a great run at WVU when it was in a very weak Big East. Before the Big East lost Miami and VaTech he really didn’t win there. After it was watered down is when he reeled off those 10 and 11 win seasons.
In real conferences like the PAC and the B1G he was bad. His defenses were constantly atrocious. 
That HC record is mediocre. Let him run an offense and only an offense under a hands off head coach and that record- while not wholly his- would probably look more like 80+% winning instead of 58%.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #132 on: November 29, 2018, 08:51:27 PM »
Harbaugh's 80s offense is just gimmicky enough to work at a basketball school the likes of Michigan. 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #133 on: November 29, 2018, 09:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2018, 08:51:27 PM
Harbaugh's 80s offense is just gimmicky enough to work at a basketball school the likes of Michigan.
his offense looks more 90s to me than 80s.
Michigan ran the ball 63% of its snaps this year. Not even Bama- who was in blowout mode by the 3rd qtr in literally every game they played this year- ran the ball that much. Bama was at 57%. And they don’t throw it to the TE as much. 
Michigan offense succcccccks. 
Pep Hamilton was a disgrace in Cleveland and he made Andrew Luck look mediocre in Indy. It really confuses the hell out of me how he makes $1 million a year. Harbaugh just hooking a friend up there. Pep IS NOT a hot commodity that you have to pay that kind of money to keep. No one else wants him.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #134 on: November 29, 2018, 09:25:03 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 29, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Sounds like Texas Tech is close to hiring Utah State's Matt Wells.
Some places reporting it's official.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #135 on: November 29, 2018, 09:33:01 PM »
Kingsbury’s agent saying his client hasn’t taken any job.

Sounds like the Dallas Cowboys are trying to lure him.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #136 on: November 29, 2018, 09:50:45 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 29, 2018, 08:45:31 PM
He had a great run at WVU when it was in a very weak Big East. Before the Big East lost Miami and VaTech he really didn’t win there. After it was watered down is when he reeled off those 10 and 11 win seasons.
In real conferences like the PAC and the B1G he was bad. His defenses were constantly atrocious.
That HC record is mediocre. Let him run an offense and only an offense under a hands off head coach and that record- while not wholly his- would probably look more like 80+% winning instead of 58%.
I’m well aware of what the BE was and wasn’t. Before the breakup of the BE he went 6-1 in conference in 2002 and 2003. Once BE 2.0 was formed it was up for grabs and he grabbed it with some legitimately good teams from 2005-2007. WVU beat some good football teams outside the BE during that stretch too. That could have just as easily been Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, or anyone else becoming the lead dog in that conference. None of them did.  WVU, led by Rod, did. 

 Winning games at WVU and Arizona is a little different than winning  at Michigan.  WVU has eight double digit winning seasons and he has three of them. Arizona has three and he has one of them.
He could have and would have had a couple of those seasons at Michigan if given more time, imo. But that wasn’t a good fit and it ended early. So be it.

Hayden Fry is in the HOF with a worse winning percentage. Barry Alvarez and Don Nehlen are in it with winning percentages only slightly better.
Rod may not be Saban or Urban Meyer but I think he did enough to show just being an OC wasn’t his highest calling.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #137 on: November 29, 2018, 10:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on November 29, 2018, 09:50:45 PM
I’m well aware of what the BE was and wasn’t. Before the breakup of the BE he went 6-1 in conference in 2002 and 2003. Once BE 2.0 was formed it was up for grabs and he grabbed it with some legitimately good teams from 2005-2007. WVU beat some good football teams outside the BE during that stretch too. That could have just as easily been Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, or anyone else becoming the lead dog in that conference. Winning games at WVU and Arizona is a little different than winning  at Michigan.  WVU has eight double digit winning seasons and he has three of them. Arizona has three and he has one of them.
He could have and would have had a couple of those seasons at Michigan if given more time, imo. But that wasn’t a good fit and it ended early. So be it.
Hayden Fry is in the HOF with a worse winning percentage. Barry Alvarez and Don Nehlen are in it with winning percentages only slightly better.
Rod may not be Saban or Urban Meyer but I think he did enough to show just being an OC wasn’t his highest calling.
Yeah, Nehlen revived WV football, but Rich Rod was rolling and was just a few yards against Pitt away that one year from playing for an national title.  It's sad to me that his disappointing stint at Michigan are what he's most known for.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #138 on: November 29, 2018, 10:36:14 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 29, 2018, 07:36:02 PM
Not sure there’s much difference. Both our offensive coaches suck.
Kliff K should stick to being an OC. He’s not cut out for being a HC. Not every one is. I don’t know why these guys just can’t stay in their lanes. RichRod would’ve been an all-timer had he just stuck to OC.

If someone came to you offering to double or triple your contract for a job that you're not perfectly suited for, but involves very nearly what you're already doing now, you'd take it.  So do they.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #139 on: November 29, 2018, 10:38:30 PM »
McElwain becoming a strong candidate for the CMU job?
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