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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #98 on: November 28, 2018, 09:57:16 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 28, 2018, 06:18:08 PM
Perhaps he took a pay cut to spend more on asst's - just guessin'.Not real sure on the rest of it but the HC should be able to run the gridiron end of it as he sees fit.As long as he stays with in the budget/rules/regulations.Or Gus should tell them to butt out or fire him.Unless he really likes the job.Haven't read up on it a lot though

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To buy out Malzahn’s contract and make a change would cost approximately $32 million with some $15 million due in 30 days and the rest to be paid in four annual installments.

If that's accurate it doesn't appear they have that much leverage over Gus.Ponying up 15 mil in 2 weeks to walk.Sounds like the Admn's should be bitch slapping someone else,like each other.If I'm a donor well I wouldn't be anymore
That’s part of the reason it’s confusing to me. From what I understand they wanted to for him to change assistants but he didn’t want to. So he’s doing this so he doesn’t have to change his assistants. But they also are saying any changes to assistants have to net to 0. So he can’t go out and upgrade assistants even if he wanted to. Or they will do it for him rendering him powerless. 
So he can either give up power and control of operations and keep his buyout when the fire him or keep whatever power he might have (which imo is diminished quite a bit by now anyway) and reduce his buyout so it’s easier to fire him next year. 
I also don’t understand how they think anyone would come under those circumstances. 
I just don’t get the situation at all. 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #99 on: November 29, 2018, 08:04:16 AM »
Makes no sense at all and the followers of War Eagle have pretty much grabbed the pitch forks and torches from what I've read in the comments section.If the the so called brain trust have done anything it's slam the door shut on recruiting.Hamstringing Gus and the program.It's amazing how many administrators appear to have the insight of an October vegetable garden.Gonna be a long time before St Nick has these idjits to worry about
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2018, 08:16:38 AM »
Well, Auburn, hard to feel to sorry for them from my viewpoint.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2018, 09:01:28 AM »
We had a lot of openings on the SEC last season, and I didn't expect (m)any this year, but we're having them elsewhere obviously.  When I was a young lad, coaches tended to stay in one place for a long time, through thin seasons and thick.  The money angle has changed clearly.

Johnson at Tech would not have been fired of course, he could leave on his own terms, and did, good for him.  Now Tech is at the proverbial "fork in the road".  Do they retain some variant of that spread option gimmick with cut blocks or move to something more normal?  As I've mentioned before, I'd like UGA to drop them as a yearly opponent.  I'd rather play someone more interesting, no matter what they do.  Their nose in the air claim they are too "academic" to have normal football wears on me.  So does their rickety ugly stadium and ugly campus.

I guess the upside for me is that I can walk to their rickety stadium if I want to watch another beat down.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #102 on: November 29, 2018, 09:08:50 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 28, 2018, 06:48:03 PM
Not only did he play there but so did his dad and his two brothers.
He was a hot shot HS QB recruit in the 80s and he turned down Notre Dame and Florida State and a host of othe late 80s  powers to play at Louisville.
If he’s turning that down with all his ties there- I’ve got to think he’s at Purdue for the long haul.
My guess is Lousiville is just that much of a cluster right now...  and the two couldn't agree on the proper risk/reward for walking into the current climate.   
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2018, 09:12:38 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 29, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
We had a lot of openings on the SEC last season, and I didn't expect (m)any this year, but we're having them elsewhere obviously.  When I was a young lad, coaches tended to stay in one place for a long time, through thin seasons and thick.  The money angle has changed clearly.

Johnson at Tech would not have been fired of course, he could leave on his own terms, and did, good for him.  Now Tech is at the proverbial "fork in the road".  Do they retain some variant of that spread option gimmick with cut blocks or move to something more normal?  As I've mentioned before, I'd like UGA to drop them as a yearly opponent.  I'd rather play someone more interesting, no matter what they do.  Their nose in the air claim they are too "academic" to have normal football wears on me.  So does their rickety ugly stadium and ugly campus.

I guess the upside for me is that I can walk to their rickety stadium if I want to watch another beat down.
some of us older fans miss those gimmick offenses...
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2018, 09:14:14 AM »
You would not like seeing your defenders having to play off cut and roll blocks all over the field.  Defenses hate playing them because of that.

And they couldn't score on UGA on offense until the scrubs came in late.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2018, 09:28:12 AM »
Well... I saw it for decades.    I loved the 70's and 80's wishbone and option offenses.   They were poetry.   I watch more Navy games than I've watched SEC games this year because of it...    Today's "call a hold on a running play but allow the OL to tackle the DL on pass plays" results in more points, but I don't find it as interesting....  
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2018, 09:33:53 AM »
I think if the type of offense were more common, defenders would adjust to playing it and playing off blocks.  But it isn't.

It's annoying.  I hate seeing it.

I worry about our knees on every play.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2018, 10:18:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 29, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
 When I was a young lad, coaches tended to stay in one place for a long time, through thin seasons and thick.  The money angle has changed clearly.
Some very average to below so coaches have been made rich in the past 15 maybe 20 yrs.A program could have the right guy but not the patience to settle in and work out the kinks.Kind of maddening a HC needs at least 3-4 yrs to undo previous damage and lay the ground work moving forward.Sometimes Admn's,regents,alumni,donors just can't wait plunging programs into the vicious circle cycle
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2018, 10:23:48 AM »
And of course then coaches get paid millions for not coaching also.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2018, 10:27:14 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 29, 2018, 10:18:44 AM
Some very average to below so coaches have been made rich in the past 15 maybe 20 yrs.A program could have the right guy but not the patience to settle in and work out the kinks.Kind of maddening a HC needs at least 3-4 yrs to undo previous damage and lay the ground work moving forward.Sometimes Admn's,regents,alumni,donors just can't wait plunging programs into the vicious circle cycle
agree.   Fans have a very different lens than those from the outside.   Osborne lost to OU his first 6 years as HC.   In today's environment, does he get that 7th year?   Sadly, I think the answer is no.  He retired winning on average 10 games a year yet I'm not sure he would get that chance in today's climate...    
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2018, 10:27:55 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 29, 2018, 10:23:48 AM
And of course then coaches get paid millions for not coaching also.
Wasn't Charlie Weis something like the 4th highest paid coach a few years ago.... and he wasn't even coaching.   He was just being paid by KU and ND.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2018, 10:30:08 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 29, 2018, 10:23:48 AM
And of course then coaches get paid millions for not coaching also.
Hindsight being 20/20 wish I taken up Phys.Ed and gotten into coaching.So somewhere fans would be MF-ing me ,not that they don't around here.Jeez had to bring up Charlie he's the case in point.F-up,move-up
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