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Topic: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #112 on: December 30, 2019, 02:13:35 PM »
OK, now you're getting to a point.

You're not going to get a bunch of guys on the field to mess with a game (they didn't). But a bitter old man in the booth, who hates the Big Ten and all things North? He wouldn't have to be on the take. He's just there.

Solution: NFL officials, for all of these NYD6 games.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #113 on: December 30, 2019, 02:21:19 PM »
OK, now you're getting to a point.

You're not going to get a bunch of guys on the field to mess with a game (they didn't). But a bitter old man in the booth, who hates the Big Ten and all things North? He wouldn't have to be on the take. He's just there.

Solution: NFL officials, for all of these NYD6 games.
NFL officials wouldn’t solve anything. As soon as one of them reversed something you didn’t agree  with you would be making the exact same accusations.

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #114 on: December 30, 2019, 02:22:17 PM »
Fortunately, it wasn't really decided by that. It was affected, not decided.
Let's see TD & PAT makes the score 30-29,so I'm sticking with decided - they blew it.I'd pay for that guy to watch the replay again and take a polygraph - really I would
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2019, 02:25:11 PM »
Die Hard Buckeye Fan here. I'd side on incompetence over corruption with the officiating.

I also side that eSECpn has a financial vested interest in the SEC and bias "report" for said interest.

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #116 on: December 30, 2019, 02:28:35 PM »
NFL officials wouldn’t solve anything. As soon as one of them reversed something you didn’t agree  with you would be making the exact same accusations.
Nope.

If this had been Big 12 or AAC or MAC officials, I wouldn't be posting on it at all - other than to say it was a terrible reversal. Which is what 95 percent of anyone who watched thinks.

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #118 on: December 30, 2019, 02:34:46 PM »
Nope.

If this had been Big 12 or AAC or MAC officials, I wouldn't be posting on it at all - other than to say it was a terrible reversal. Which is what 95 percent of anyone who watched thinks.

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So because the guy is affiliated with the SEC you automatically assume he hates the Big Ten/Ohio St? That doesn’t make any sense

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #119 on: December 30, 2019, 02:37:44 PM »
just as easy for an NFL official to hate the B1G
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #120 on: December 30, 2019, 02:38:20 PM »
So because the guy is affiliated with the SEC you automatically assume he hates the Big Ten/Ohio St? That doesn’t make any sense
It also makes no sense to just simply dismiss the possibility.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #121 on: December 30, 2019, 02:41:44 PM »
We often want the world to be more interesting than it is. It was a bad rule interpretation exacerbated by being in a close game and the apparent oddity about using or not using slo-mo in instant replay.

what is this crap about not using slo-mo when reviewing a play?
A heard a couple different announcers talking about this
I've always assumed slowing down the play helps the ref make the correct call?
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2019, 02:44:45 PM »
Let's see TD & PAT makes the score 30-29,so I'm sticking with decided - they blew it.I'd pay for that guy to watch the replay again and take a polygraph - really I would
Hmmm, we can pick the individual things that decide the games from all of them. 

I'll say OSU's defense decided the game. Title game spot on the line and they give up 94 yards in four plays. That's the group that decided it. 

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2019, 02:46:44 PM »
Ohio State had two chances to win in the last 3 minutes:  first of all by stopping Clemson from driving 94 yards. They failed. Secondly the opportunity to drive 75 yards and score a touchdown, again they failed. 

That’s the bottom line of it.

Now having said that I became really suspicious of the officials on Ohio states very first Drive where they were running tempo and they had Clemson‘s defense completely off-balance and tired, and the officials waited until Ohio State was about to snap the ball inside the 10 yard line to start the play and do a very very long review of Garrett Wilson’s catch. This allowed Clemson to gather themselves and rest their defense and keep Ohio State to a field goal. My question is why did they wait for the next ball to be snapped before they review that play.  It went like that all night long.

Do you really think Sean Wade should have been ejected for the targeting call even if you want to technically agree that it was targeting? Was it really intentional and malicious or was it more dumb luck? The officials decided that so very quickly that also made me really suspicious.   
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #124 on: December 30, 2019, 02:47:15 PM »
It also makes no sense to just simply dismiss the possibility.
The weird part is that the guy who worked 20 years for the Big Ten quickly agreed with him. Now I suppose the answer is that he's paid by ESPN, but that would imply not a rogue agent but something slightly more orchestrated. 

And thus it gets a little silly. 

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #125 on: December 30, 2019, 02:48:51 PM »

Do you really think Sean Wade should have been ejected for the targeting call even if you want to technically agree that it was targeting? Was it really intentional and malicious or was it more dumb luck? The officials decided that so very quickly that also made me really suspicious. 
It's that one. The hit was targeting by rule and the rule has you thrown out. I think it's a bad rule, but it's the way it works. I'm sure the refs felt it was accidental as well, but they are not given disgression on that front. 

 

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