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Topic: #19 Wisconsin (1-0) at South Florida (0-1) Post Game

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 10:56:06 AM »
 Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.
But they have so much rich tradition who wants to screw with that
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2019, 11:04:37 AM »
Except, this:

https://www.ut.edu/


THE University of Tampa would be really pissed if another school tried to take its name.
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2019, 11:14:14 AM »
No matter what you call it I hope UW doesn't suffer heat stroke in those infernal regions
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2019, 11:14:52 AM »


#19 Wisconsin Badgers at South Florida Bulls
Friday @ 7:00 - Tampa, FL - ESPN
No team may be more ready to get 2019 going than South Florida.  The Bulls burst out early in 2018, getting off to a 7-0 start, with a pair of Power 5 wins, and a #21 national ranking, and a 3:30 ABC nationally televised game against Houston.  The Cougars lit them up for 57 points, kicking off a 6 game losing streak that saw Charlie Strong's defense shredded for 35 or more points in five of those games.  The Bulls featured the AAC's best defense in 2017, and they better get back close to that level in 2019, or Wisconsin's passing game concerns may not matter.  South Florida surrendered 5.1 ypc a year ago, worst in the AAC*.  The asterisk is because UConn's 2018 defense was so historically bad, that no other AAC team could possibly be the worst in any metric, so we've removed them from any rankings.  The back seven is still ok, but the defensive line struggled mightily.  The signs are that South Florida will move from a base 4-2-5, to a more traditional 4-3, and move Greg Reaves back to defensive end.  The hope is that he can provide the group with a boost to their pass rushing, but the run defense still seems problematic.  Wisconsin couldn't too much abandon being Wisconsin.  The Badgers brought in probably their most prized quarterback recruit ever (if you don't count Russell Wilson as a grad transfer), fresh off a dazzling performance in the All-American Bowl.  The type of elite passer that Wisconsin doesn't get, and doesn't rely upon.  So to protect their brand, they named Jack Coan as starter.  The same Jack Coan who played in 5 games last year and had a Total QBR that would have been 3rd worst in the Big Ten, had he had enough attempts to qualify.  As I said earlier, it probably doesn't matter who gets the start in the opener, South Florida has a solid secondary, and zero run defense (Marshall ran for nearly 300 yards against them in the Gasparilla Bowl), but this feels like a missed opportunity to get Mertz a shot against a solid secondary, in a road environment, before you absolutely need him.  They have Michigan at home in two weeks, and I simply don't think you can beat Michigan with Jack Coan under center.  And I don't think Mertz went to Madison to sit behind him.
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2019, 11:17:14 AM »
I don't even consider the panhandle to be part of Florida. It's Alabama to me. We need to draw a north/south line straight through Tallahassee and everything West of that line- give it to Alabama. Then move the state capitol to Orlando and let's be done with it.

On a serious note, I had no idea. Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.

USF would make perfect sense if the proposed state of South Florida was ever to be realized.

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2019, 11:22:28 AM »
USF would make perfect sense if the proposed state of South Florida was ever to be realized.
Except then it would be just about the northernmost county in South Florida.  I guess it could be the flagship for the new South Florida system, with Central Florida changing its name to North South Florida

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2019, 11:42:15 AM »
I don't even consider the panhandle to be part of Florida. It's Alabama to me. We need to draw a north/south line straight through Tallahassee and everything West of that line- give it to Alabama. Then move the state capitol to Orlando and let's be done with it.

On a serious note, I had no idea. Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2019, 11:53:27 AM »
Except then it would be just about the northernmost county in South Florida.  I guess it could be the flagship for the new South Florida system, with Central Florida changing its name to North South Florida
True.

As it is though, the best way to handle it would be have USF, UCF, FGCU, etc. all be absorbed by the University of Florida system and simply be UF-Orlando, UF-Tampa, etc.  They can be colloquially be called by their city names.

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2019, 12:18:31 PM »
True.

As it is though, the best way to handle it would be have USF, UCF, FGCU, etc. all be absorbed by the University of Florida system and simply be UF-Orlando, UF-Tampa, etc.  They can be colloquially be called by their city names.
Well, to some extent you may see pushback from the University of Florida, so as not to dilute their name.

This is an issue in California. We have the "University of California" schools and the "California State University" schools. There is a clear line between the two, and if you started suggesting to a UCLA grad that CSU Fullerton should start being called UC, you'd probably have a fight on your hands. The two are not seen to be on par. 

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2019, 12:31:17 PM »

#19 Wisconsin Badgers at South Florida Bulls
Friday @ 7:00 - Tampa, FL - ESPN
No team may be more ready to get 2019 going than South Florida.  The Bulls burst out early in 2018, getting off to a 7-0 start, with a pair of Power 5 wins, and a #21 national ranking, and a 3:30 ABC nationally televised game against Houston.  The Cougars lit them up for 57 points, kicking off a 6 game losing streak that saw Charlie Strong's defense shredded for 35 or more points in five of those games.  The Bulls featured the AAC's best defense in 2017, and they better get back close to that level in 2019, or Wisconsin's passing game concerns may not matter.  South Florida surrendered 5.1 ypc a year ago, worst in the AAC*.  The asterisk is because UConn's 2018 defense was so historically bad, that no other AAC team could possibly be the worst in any metric, so we've removed them from any rankings.  The back seven is still ok, but the defensive line struggled mightily.  The signs are that South Florida will move from a base 4-2-5, to a more traditional 4-3, and move Greg Reaves back to defensive end.  The hope is that he can provide the group with a boost to their pass rushing, but the run defense still seems problematic.  Wisconsin couldn't too much abandon being Wisconsin.  The Badgers brought in probably their most prized quarterback recruit ever (if you don't count Russell Wilson as a grad transfer), fresh off a dazzling performance in the All-American Bowl.  The type of elite passer that Wisconsin doesn't get, and doesn't rely upon.  So to protect their brand, they named Jack Coan as starter.  The same Jack Coan who played in 5 games last year and had a Total QBR that would have been 3rd worst in the Big Ten, had he had enough attempts to qualify.  As I said earlier, it probably doesn't matter who gets the start in the opener, South Florida has a solid secondary, and zero run defense (Marshall ran for nearly 300 yards against them in the Gasparilla Bowl), but this feels like a missed opportunity to get Mertz a shot against a solid secondary, in a road environment, before you absolutely need him.  They have Michigan at home in two weeks, and I simply don't think you can beat Michigan with Jack Coan under center.  And I don't think Mertz went to Madison to sit behind him.
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I don't think any QB goes anywhere to sit behind someone else. Mertz isn't going anywhere. He loves Madison, he loves his coaches, he loves his teammates and they all love him.

He'll stay, and even if he can't beat out Coan (or Wolf) next season, Mertz will start as a RS-Soph (assuming he beats out Wolf). Which would be the same starting time as if he transferred out.

We can also look back on 2016, when Bart Houston got the start over Hornibrook. That lasted 3 games.

I think we'll see Mertz or Wolf play Friday.
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2019, 12:49:58 PM »
what's in a name?  not much.  I just refer to them as USF or the Bulls

I just need the Badgers to cover 13.5

should be easy money
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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2019, 12:52:57 PM »
USF will change when Michigan changes the lyrics to Hail to the Victors. 


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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2019, 01:10:46 PM »
USF will change when Michigan changes the lyrics to Hail to the Victors.
EFF USF. Michigan ain't changing sheeeet.

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Re: #19 Wisconsin (0-0, 0-0) at South Florida (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2019, 01:33:55 PM »
You think that's bad, the burb where I currently reside has a "Central" HS that is located at least a mile north of their "North" HS. Also has the word "West" in its name, even though it is on the east end of town. Then on top of all that, they have a "County Line Road" and a "County Line Run" neither of which serve as the actual county line. 

Consequently the entire community is directionally challenged.
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