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Topic: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting

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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 10:43:50 PM »
That's how I've gauged classes for years.  Whether you're first or seventh or eleventh or fifth - as long as you have more 4&5* than not, it's a successful class and you're good enough to win it all.
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 11:05:45 PM »
There are some teams that meet that > 50% blue-chippers requirement that I don't think are good enough to win it all.

First of all, I don't think Oklahoma will be good enough at the start of the season to get through with no more than one loss.  We don't have a QB with significant experience, and we haven't had the competition that we would have had in the spring to see if one is clearly better than the other.  CFB these days is a very QB-oriented game, and Lincoln Riley's offense has reflected that.

I don't Texas is good enough to win it all.  The Horns haven't won so much as a conference title since 2009, and only three in the last 24 years.  So it's hard for me to see them jumping all the way up from that to winning the NGC.  I readily admit that Tom Herman gets 'em ready to play very well in the RRS every year, but he also doesn't have his team nearly so well-prepared to play lesser opponents.

I don't think LSU is good enough to win it all.  Winning back-to-back is very hard and LSU has lost a lot from last year's great bunch.  QB and QB coach are the most important losses.

I don't think that Florida is good enough to win it all.  I don't think they'll beat out Georgia for the SEC-E title.

Likewise, I don't think that Michigan will be good enough to beat out The OSU for the B1G-E title.

I don't think that Notre Dame is good enough to win it all.

I don't think that Washington, with a new HFC, will be good enough to win it all.

I don't think that USC, with a coach on the hot seat, will be good enough to win it all.

I don't think Texas A&M will be good enough to win it all.  They might beat Bama and then lose to both Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

My picks for the CFP: Bama, Georgia, The OSU, Clemson.
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 11:37:26 PM »
lol, I wonder why they even bother playing the games....
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 12:39:31 AM »
The question is not "will" they, but "can" they.
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 12:52:19 AM »
Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State are just recruiting at an insane level right now, and are far ahead of everyone else on paper. Clemson being at 63% kind of shocks me, I just assumed they were in that 80ish range like the other 3.

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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 01:15:05 AM »
Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State are just recruiting at an insane level right now, and are far ahead of everyone else on paper. Clemson being at 63% kind of shocks me, I just assumed they were in that 80ish range like the other 3.
I was surprised by Clemson's rating as well.
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2020, 02:16:16 AM »
They're good enough in the mighty ACC.
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2020, 08:01:59 AM »
A true 5 star QB might be worth more than a true 5 star DB.

I wonder if they adjusted for departures, UGA lost two 5 star players I know about, one to Illinois.

Experience and development obviously are also factors.  I'd rather be at 45% with a lot of returning players than 65% with newbies.

It is an interesting ranking all that aside.  I think Mullen is a pretty good coach at UF, that can make a difference as well obviously.  

UGA plays at Alabama early (Sept.).  If they lost twice to Bama, I don't think the make the playoff at 11-2, if they were 11-2.

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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2020, 08:43:47 AM »
yup, departures of blue chips over the 4 year period would seem to count

or perhaps the source feels that if those bluechips leave, it may have been because they weren't good enough to compete and were over rated
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2020, 09:06:16 AM »
Yeah, that might not apply to say Justin Fields ....

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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2020, 09:24:50 AM »
but, that would be a blow to your roster

so, his blue chips now show up at Ohio St?
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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2020, 09:28:11 AM »
Had UGA kept Fields and started him last season, I dare say they would have been better.

I don't fault Fields for leaving at all.  Good for him, he has earned a large pay check next year.

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Re: 15 teams who can win a national title, based solely on recruiting
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2020, 12:02:34 PM »
same for Burrows

in some cases the transfer portal is a good thing for young men
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