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MarqHusker

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2019, 02:06:15 AM »
During this wild Wazzu/Ducks game, I played as CU '90 vs OU '71 in a solo possession game.  As I suspected, OU doesn't throw as much (as I would if calling their plays).   I bet OU passed the ball 9 times.  I'd probably throw 15 or more.  CU really has a nice D key against the short pass which can negate OU's outsized play opportunities against the pass.

'90 CU  16   0   6   0    22
'71 OU   7   7   14  3    31

CU missed two PATs, OU missed two Field Goals (55, 44).  Hagan threw two 4th quarter INTs, OU had a KR TD.   Only 6 penalties.  Whoa Nellie cards were all no fumble/no TD results.  

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2019, 12:54:42 AM »
Ok, I played one more N '95 v OU '71 game before I order more teams.   I played solo as OU, and called a lot of short passes for OU.  Mildren threw 5  (FIVE!) INTs, the final one being returned by Mike Fulman for a TD.

Penalties only thing that really slowed Nebraska, and forced them to punt twice.

OU   3   0   7   7   17
N     7  14  14 10  45

OU:  INT, Fumble, FG, INT, INT, TD, INT, TD, INT, Downs  (No punts, six turnovers)
N: TD, Fumble, Punt, TD, TD, TD, TD, Punt, FG, TD pick six, End Game.

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2019, 09:34:14 PM »
Your post made me look at the 71 OU team card again, and there's an error.  Nothing to do with gameplay, but their 35/65 pass/run% are actually 71 Nebraska's..........ugh.

I hope you weren't trying to pass a third of the time because of that.  Those Sooners actually only passed 9% of the time.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2019, 12:24:14 AM by OrangeAfroMan »
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2019, 12:06:14 AM »
in my play as OU '71 I've messed around a bit, one game, doing nothing but passing, and another (when I threw 5 INTs!) I passed a lot.   Stunning how many times I rolled high 90s, or got caught against a good defense which increased INT odds.  

Their card doesn't seem right on the run side, especially for a team that ran for 472 yards p game.

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2019, 07:51:36 AM »
Well, they averaged 6.6 yards per carry, which is the number the game is based on.  And remember, it's just their top 4 rushers, so those guys down the stat sheet who averaged 14 yards per carry on 4-5 carries aren't included.  You've got:
Mildren with the most carries, at 5.8 per
Pruitt at 9.0 ypc
the FB Crosswhite at 4.9, and
Bell with 7.2



The reason they ran for 470 ypg is that they always ran the ball.  91% of their plays were runs.  Now, on the 'opponent offense' chart, the lowest I can get the passing plays is 16%.  (1 out of 12 is about 8% - so just allowing for one slot each for short pass and long pass, that's 8% x 2 = 16%.  So that inflates their passing rates a little, but playing as 71 OU, you should rarely pass, if ever.



I did consider allotting just one slot for passing (8% of plays) to be more precise, and I know those run-first, run always teams threw deep a lot, but still - I don't think anyone would want to be made to only throw it deep, especially with such paltry completion percentages in doing so.  
I could possibly make the QB card for all teams who threw the ball below, say 12%, different/unique compared to all others in the game, with a mix of short and long passes....but I'd have to wait to look at that until after I catch up on orders.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2019, 12:46:28 AM »
Played my first game tonight ('89 Miami @ '90 Georgia Tech).

Miami was dominating taking a 21-0 halftime lead behind Craig Erickson's 14 completions.  Shawn Jones of GT only completed 8 passes and was intercepted three times, but the Whoa Nellie card was kind in the 3rd quarter as he hit Bobby Rodriguez on a 65-yard td pass. The game wasn't that close as GT also has a kickoff return for a td.

Craig Erickson finished with 22 completions for 268 yards, but was sacked four times.

'89 Miami   7  14  0  14-  35
'90 GT        0  0   14  7-   21 

This game is incredible!  Well worth the time and effort that it took to create if anyone is curious.

Next game is Spurrier's '91 Florida Gators hosting the run-and-shoot '90 Houston Cougars. 

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2019, 12:48:11 AM »
oh, I forgot to mention how dominating Miami's d was....GT had only 76 yards on 26 attempts 

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2019, 08:08:07 PM »


Next game is Spurrier's '91 Florida Gators hosting the run-and-shoot '90 Houston Cougars.
That should be fun!
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2019, 12:14:40 AM »
How did you play?  possessions or clock?   I need a few more samples, but am pretty sure I'll only do clock when playing with another person.   Impressive dedication to keeping the stats

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2019, 11:50:10 PM »
Hey MarqHusker,

I am using possessions. I remember Strat-o-matic's time-keeping system and I really was turned off by it.  I find that with possessions, its less moving parts each play and that's ideal for me. After 5 games, what I find unique about Whoa Nellie is the true excitement that it offers compared to similar simulations.  For example, '88 Oklahoma St was up 21-9 on '82 SMU in the third quarter.  OSU's qb fumbled at the SMU 18 and subsequently set off a metamorphic momentum change highlighted by Eric Dickerson's 79 yard touchdown run on the Whoa Nellie card and SMU's eventual 33-24 victory. With the addition of the Whoa Nellie card, no defense is safe from preventing a long touchdown, just like in real-world college football.

This is, hands down, the best college game that I have ever played. Other games (Bowl Bound among others) lack individuality, which is paramount to a fun, accurate experience. 

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2019, 04:27:20 PM »
Thursday night I had an instant classic!

'89 Miami defeated '90 Notre Dame 26-20. The game ended on a Rick Mirer incompletion in the end zone.  Miami's rush defense was again stout allowing on 72 rushing yards. Notre Dame's Rocket Ismail returned a kickoff 100 yards for a td (2nd consecutive game Miami has given up a return td). Ismail finished with 167 return yards, 56 rushing yards, and 91 receiving yards, placing himself firmly in Heisman contention.  

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2020, 09:16:32 PM »
88 Notre Dame  6  7  0  16    29
14 Ohio State    0  7  10  7    24

This was my first game.  Ohio State out gained and outplayed the Irish, but the Buckeyes missed two field goals and had two turnovers.  The Irish blocked a punt and returned it for a 61 yd TD late in game to take the lead.  The Buckeyes then drove the length of the field in two minutes to the Irish 17 yd line with enough time left for one play.  The game ended with the Irish sacking Cardale Jones on the final play to seal the victory!

Notre Dame only had 241 total yards compared to Ohio State, which had 452 total yards.

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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2020, 01:29:04 PM »
Wow, sounds exciting!  Love the close games.
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Re: Game Outcomes
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2020, 01:30:53 AM »
AZ '93  0  0   7  0   7
OU '85  3 10 17 10 40
Desert swarm vs an underrated OU D.
Arizona really did make it tough for OU in this game offensively, the problem was AZ couldn't do jack on offense.  No first downs until the 4th quarter and only then they got 2 of them before Dan White threw an INT at the OU 42.  Chuck Levy did run back a KO for the lone score.   OU took advantage of the short field over and over.  Lashar was 4-4 from 53, 47, 51 and 54 yards.  Keith Jackson and Holieway made plays, but OU never had to drive longer than 60 yards.   OU did return a punt for a TD. AZ penalties kept 2 OU drives going.  I dont think OU gained 250 yards.  Arizona might have had 100 yards.

 

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