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fuzzynavol · « **Reply #70 on:** October 12, 2020, 12:47:56 PM »

Fuzz's standard seem to be ...if you aren't winning now then you're a middle tier program. Ancient history seems to be whatever Fuzz decides is ancient.

Tennessee hasn't won the SEC in 22 years.

I'm talking to people who think championships are the standard.

If that is the case then if UT beats Kentucky next week we're can claim we're a top tier progranm again.

You can claim anything you want - you obviously have no regard for reality.

LSU has already lost 2 games this year and last years NC is ancient history. This make LSU a bottom feeder program. Nonsense!!

If someone has to mischaracterize your position to such a degree, then it's only because they have no real argument.

DunkingDan · « **Reply #71 on:** October 12, 2020, 12:47:58 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 08:16:43 PM

I understand that perfectly - it's provides the basis for your delusion. Sewanee used to be great. I'm talking about the present and future, and you're stuck living in an over-inflated impression you have of the past.

Stop while you're ahead. You're only proving to everyone how little you know about the SEC. Sewanee was never good in the SEC. The only record they still hold is the most consecutive losses in conference games that stands at about 40+

By his logic since Neyland was hired to beat that great football power Vanderbilt theY must be another upper tier team.

roadvol · « **Reply #72 on:** October 12, 2020, 12:53:10 PM »

Tennessee hasn't won the SEC in 22 years.

I'm talking to people who think championships are the standard.

And Georgia hasn't won a national championship since 1980.
Poor UGA...just another 2nd tier team!!!..........

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #73 on:** October 12, 2020, 12:59:10 PM »

Quote from: jgvol on October 12, 2020, 09:25:59 AM

Phil recruited nationally for a decade to the likes of the current Alabama’s and Georgia’s, Ohio St.

It can be done, because I’ve seen it done.

Tennessee is very attractive. But, we have to win a few of these big games before the recruits choose Us over them.

Phil recruited nationally for a decade to the likes of the current Alabama’s and Georgia’s, Ohio St.

Not true - we've never been that kind of "elite." Tennessee has never fielded a team of talent on the level Bama's been fielding in the Saban era, or even a defense like Georgia's this year. A quick draft analysis will confirm that for you after you take off your orange-tinted glasses.

It can be done, because I’ve seen it done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_Harvard_Crimson_football_team

Tennessee is very attractive.

There are lots of attractive schools in the SEC with better brands and closer to more elite recruits' families.

But, we have to win a few of these big games before the recruits choose Us over them.

Keep telling yourself that and revolving head coaches every 4-5 years with your head in the sand blaming "the administration" for your lack of championships.

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #74 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:04:05 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 12, 2020, 12:53:10 PM

Tennessee hasn't won the SEC in 22 years.

I'm talking to people who think championships are the standard.

And Georgia hasn't won a national championship since 1980.
Poor UGA...just another 2nd tier team!!!..........

You're lying about my position. The championships standard, is your's, not mine. All I've said is they're a program that should win 9-10 games a year, whereas we should be content with an 8 win program standard. Their standard should be win the East 4X per decade, and our's should be to win 2X. Everything beyond that should be gravy, including national championships. They decided 1980 was too long ago, and that Richt wasn't going to get them there. They were confident enough in their recruiting base that they could re-shuffle their coaching staff - you have that luxury when your university is in Athens, Georgia with their brand.

jgvol · « **Reply #75 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:31:11 PM »

Quote from: fuzzynavol on October 12, 2020, 12:59:10 PM

Phil recruited nationally for a decade to the likes of the current Alabama’s and Georgia’s, Ohio St.

Not true - we've never been that kind of "elite." Tennessee has never fielded a team of talent on the level Bama's been fielding in the Saban era, or even a defense like Georgia's this year. A quick draft analysis will confirm that for you after you take off your orange-tinted glasses.

It can be done, because I’ve seen it done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_Harvard_Crimson_football_team

Tennessee is very attractive.

There are lots of attractive schools in the SEC with better brands and closer to more elite recruits' families.

But, we have to win a few of these big games before the recruits choose Us over them.

Keep telling yourself that and revolving head coaches every 4-5 years with your head in the sand blaming "the administration" for your lack of championships.

Recruiting rank Tennessee 1993-2005

93 = 3
94 = 1
95 = 8
96 = 7
97 = 1
98 = 10
99 = couldn't find
00 = 2
01 = 5
02 = 4
03 = 18
04 = 11
05 = 4

Give me that run from 93 to 02 and we can beat anybody (and we did …. got amnesia, fuzz?)

Phil Fulmer was one of the best recruiters of all time.

roadvol · « **Reply #76 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM »

You're lying about my position. The championships standard, is your's, not mine.

So the championship standards are yours...no one else.
That answers a lot of questions. The standards you're setting for UT as 2nd tier is your personal opinion.Nothing else
I can accept that my opinion is different than yours. ......just don't try to convince everyone else that their standards are wrong.

btw....you just can't get thru a thread without accusing someone of lying if they don't agree with you can you?
That argument is getting very old.

roadvol · « **Reply #77 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:47:19 PM »

Not true - we've never been that kind of "elite." Tennessee has never fielded a team of talent on the level Bama's been fielding in the Saban era

Fuzz just admitted his argument is FOS. He's admitting that Alabama's present elite status is contingent on Saban's recruiting exertise not the fact that they are Alabama and have permanent advantages over UT.
He's all over the map with his fictional arguments

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #78 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:54:50 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM

You're lying about my position. The championships standard, is your's, not mine.

So the championship standards are yours...no one else.
That answers a lot of questions. The standards you're setting for UT as 2nd tier is your personal opinion.Nothing else
I can accept that my opinion is different than yours. ......just don't try to convince everyone else that their standards are wrong.

btw....you just can't get thru a thread without accusing someone of lying if they don't agree with you can you?
That argument is getting very old.

btw....you just can't get thru a thread without accusing someone of lying if they don't agree with you can you?

You didn't merely disagree with me, you deliberately misrepresented my stated criteria for top tier programs, Georgia specifically. If you don't like being accused of lying, then don't do it.

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #79 on:** October 12, 2020, 01:56:20 PM »

Quote from: jgvol on October 12, 2020, 01:31:11 PM

Recruiting rank Tennessee 1993-2005

93 = 3
94 = 1
95 = 8
96 = 7
97 = 1
98 = 10
99 = couldn't find
00 = 2
01 = 5
02 = 4
03 = 18
04 = 11
05 = 4

Give me that run from 93 to 02 and we can beat anybody (and we did …. got amnesia, fuzz?)

Phil Fulmer was one of the best recruiters of all time.

That run isn't going to be duplicated in Knoxville, and still isn't nearly as good as Alabama's over the past 10 years, nor Georgia's over the past 5.

roadvol · « **Reply #80 on:** October 12, 2020, 02:13:28 PM »

To be honest when you call someone a liar that's a sure sign of defeat.
You can always tell when Fuzz is frustrated that he's been proven wrong ( AGAIN) as he always resorts to calling people a liar.
I'm guessing that must be taught during liberal/progessive/socialist indoctrination sessions.

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #81 on:** October 12, 2020, 02:45:07 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 12, 2020, 02:13:28 PM

To be honest when you call someone a liar that's a sure sign of defeat.
You can always tell when Fuzz is frustrated that he's been proven wrong ( AGAIN) as he always resorts to calling people a liar.
I'm guessing that must be taught during liberal/progessive/socialist indoctrination sessions.

To be honest when you call someone a liar that's a sure sign of defeat.

I didn't call you a liar.

I pointed out a specific lie, which was deliberate misreprentation of something I posted and compared it with what I actually posted. If that's wrong, then point out how. If it's correct, then keep up your diversions - what you did is here for all to see.

gymvol · « **Reply #82 on:** October 12, 2020, 03:05:17 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 07:12:04 PM

According to everything I've read and heard....the entire team is behind Guaratano. To a man they think he gives them the best chance to win.
I'm not a coach but whe the coaching staff and the team thinks he's the best QB then I believ them.
If there was unrest on the team a and a lot of harping about our QB then it would be time for a change.
So...after much consideration I think I'll side with the team and coaches over the computer commandos.

BTW...don't know if you listen to the Doug Matthews Show this morning but he made this statement....
The offensive line was so bad yesterday ,if Peyton Manning were quarterbacking the team yesterday he couldn't have done any better.
High praise from someone who thinks Manning is the best QB ever to play at Tennessee.

You touched on the problem the coach is choosing a QB by committee. It hasn't worked out very well now has it?

You're talking about guys who can't remember simple rules to play by without getting penalties yet the coach is allowing them to pick the starting QB.

Sounds like the Brothas want one of their own and Tater Head is afraid to go against them.

He showed be fired for making that statement alone and letting them bully him into making a decision about who plays QB.

I think I posted previously the only reason he could be starting is because he's black now it looks like I was correct.

gymvol · « **Reply #83 on:** October 12, 2020, 03:08:21 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 07:20:49 PM

Matthews point being that even Manning couldn't have had a good day if he was buried under a pile of Georgia defensive linemen or running for his life.
Good grief..you guys had to wait an entire year and 8 wins to come down this hard on JG.

You could put what Matthews knows about football on the back of a match book cover that's why he had to get out of coaching.

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