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Topic: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?

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Volitale

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2020, 07:59:55 PM »
I agree - I was hoping he'd finally take the field with command, confidence and presence this year, but he just doesn't have "it."  Surely the coaches see that.  I'm assuming that he's still our best option, but they're having a scrimmage in Knoxville today, and not to be a Drew-like conspiracy-theorist, but I'm wondering if part of the reason is to see where the other quarterbacks are, and see if one of them (Bailey?) gives them a reason to start playing him. 
It’s likely he is the best option based on practice performance.  I’ve seen it several times where some guys just have a different mode when in actual battle than in practice.  There’s no way for a coach to find that out if it’s never tried and it’s even harder to go against what you see in practice.  

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2020, 08:16:43 PM »
I understand that perfectly - it's provides the basis for your delusion.  Sewanee used to be great.  I'm talking about the present and future, and you're stuck living in an over-inflated impression you have of the past.

Stop while you're ahead. You're only proving to everyone how little you know about the SEC. Sewanee was never good in the SEC. The only record they still hold is the most consecutive losses in conference games that stands at about 40+

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2020, 08:33:35 PM »
According to everything I've read and heard....the entire team is behind Guaratano. To a man they think he gives them the best chance to win.
I'm not a coach but whe the coaching staff and the team thinks he's the best QB then I believ them.
If there was unrest on the team a and a lot of harping about our QB then it would be time for a change.
So...after much consideration I think I'll side with the team and coaches over the computer commandos.

BTW...don't know if you listen to the Doug Matthews Show this morning but he made this statement....
The offensive line was so bad yesterday ,if Peyton Manning were quarterbacking the team yesterday he couldn't have done any better.
High praise from someone who thinks Manning is the best QB ever to play at Tennessee.
Doug Matthews is full of shit because Phil Fulmer is full of shit and any media that covers TN football is full of shit and would never dare to question the TN AD. It’s beyond stupid at this point. Fulmer was a controlling prick as a HC and is a controlling prick as an AD. And for the love of God can we have a freaking fatter coaching staff ?!?!? They demand their players be disciplined yet they can’t discipline themselves from shoving food down their throats despite having world class nutritionists, trainers, facilities within a stones throw. TN football is the epitome of fat cat syndrome. 

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2020, 09:01:59 PM »
From my perspective the OL was overwhelmed in the 2nd half because it’s hard for 5 to block 7 to 8. Georgia fired off 7 to 8 because they didn’t respect JG’s QB skills and to be honest, no one should. He sucks. JG handicaps the O because he routinely throws high or behind which makes the quick slant a risk. And to top it all off he’s no threat to run because he has 2 left feet. The guy can’t outrun a snail on his best day.

It’s hard for me to believe that JG is our best option with Maurer, JT, and Bailey sitting on the sideline. Maybe the most experienced but talented, no, I’m not buying that. It appears to me that Pruitt errs on the side of caution. Considering that JG has reached his ceiling and he still sucks, I’d put the future in and ride it out. Bailey is not a small guy at 6’4” or 6’5” at 225 pounds. I think Maurer is up to 210 or 215 now. Not sure about JT. The walk on that appeared to be all world yesterday is way smaller than any QB on our sideline yet there he was, playing and kicking our ass.

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2020, 09:38:49 PM »
The expectations at Georgia and Florida should be 9-10 wins/year, and win the East 4 times per decade.  That's the reality this homer is perfectly fine with.  You're never going to be happy as a Tennessee football fan if you think we "belong" at the top. 

Your argument falls apart when it comes to Bama. IF in-state/proximity recruiting is perfectly or at least highly correlated to wins, then Bama should be behind FL, GA, LSU, Auburn and possibly A&M. AL's in-state recruiting is marginally better than TN and they share the state with Auburn. 

Check out Bama's roster. 15 from FL, 10 from GA and LA. Add several each from TX, PA, CA, SC, MS and DC. They are getting the best recruits in the nation, not in the state. Also, many recruited in state will never stiff the field. Family played at Bama, or has big donation bucks, etc. 

TN is one Saban away from SEC dynasty. 




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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2020, 11:15:25 PM »
I understand that perfectly - it's provides the basis for your delusion.  Sewanee used to be great.  I'm talking about the present and future, and you're stuck living in an over-inflated impression you have of the past.

Stop while you're ahead. You're only proving to everyone how little you know about the SEC. Sewanee was never good in the SEC. The only record they still hold is the most consecutive losses in conference games that stands at about 40+
I figured you'd probably say something about Sewanee not being that good, rather than comprehending the actual point, which is the times change.  The Ivy league schools used to be on top, prior to Notre Dame's dominance.  None of that history matters now - I can only hope Harvard doesn't have any delusional fans like you talking about getting back to where they belong.  

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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2020, 11:41:13 PM »
The expectations at Georgia and Florida should be 9-10 wins/year, and win the East 4 times per decade.  That's the reality this homer is perfectly fine with.  You're never going to be happy as a Tennessee football fan if you think we "belong" at the top. 

Your argument falls apart when it comes to Bama. IF in-state/proximity recruiting is perfectly or at least highly correlated to wins, then Bama should be behind FL, GA, LSU, Auburn and possibly A&M. AL's in-state recruiting is marginally better than TN and they share the state with Auburn.

Check out Bama's roster. 15 from FL, 10 from GA and LA. Add several each from TX, PA, CA, SC, MS and DC. They are getting the best recruits in the nation, not in the state. Also, many recruited in state will never stiff the field. Family played at Bama, or has big donation bucks, etc.

TN is one Saban away from SEC dynasty.
The expectations at Georgia and Florida should be 9-10 wins/year, and win the East 4 times per decade.  That's the reality this homer is perfectly fine with.  You're never going to be happy as a Tennessee football fan if you think we "belong" at the top.  

Your argument falls apart when it comes to Bama.  IF in-state/proximity recruiting is perfectly or at least highly correlated to wins, then Bama should be behind FL, GA, LSU, Auburn and possibly A&M.

Bama is close enough to Georgia and Mississippi (closer to Memphis than Knoxville) to have a built-in talent-proximity advantage over Tennessee.  

AL's in-state recruiting is marginally better than TN and they share the state with Auburn. 

That just goes to show you how much more talent there is in that part of the country.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(region_of_Alabama)

Check out Bama's roster. 15 from FL, 10 from GA and LA. Add several each from TX, PA, CA, SC, MS and DC. They are getting the best recruits in the nation, not in the state. Also, many recruited in state will never stiff the field. Family played at Bama, or has big donation bucks, etc. 

Bama's not positioned for the next 30 years to have a better record than Georgia or Florida.  They'll all have better records than Tennessee.  

TN is one Saban away from SEC dynasty. 

LOL - oh, is that all?  There are 130 universities competing in Division 1.  IF there's ever another Saban out there, it's highly unlikely he'll end up at Tennessee.  Why would he - he knows how much harder it would be to be dominant there.  If the A.D. at Tennessee had ever called Urban Meyer, he would have laughed in his face.  I'll ask you the same question that Roady refused to answer.  If Lincoln Riley was told he could coach at any school in the SEC, how many would he rank above Tennessee?  There's no way he'd come to Tennessee over Georgia, Florida, Alabama or LSU.  So you can try to argue that he'd take us fifth, but I doubt he'd come to Knoxville over Texas A&M and probably not Auburn.  I'd say we're probably about tied with Auburn ranked 7th and even that could be some residual arrogance left over from a few good years in the '90's.  

I'm not trying to put the school or the program down, I'm just trying to introduce some sanity.  I'd say the same thing to South Carolina or Arkansas fans, or any of the other present-day mid-tier programs.  

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« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2020, 01:32:06 AM »
The expectations at Georgia and Florida should be 9-10 wins/year, and win the East 4 times per decade.  That's the reality this homer is perfectly fine with.  You're never going to be happy as a Tennessee football fan if you think we "belong" at the top. 

Your argument falls apart when it comes to Bama.  IF in-state/proximity recruiting is perfectly or at least highly correlated to wins, then Bama should be behind FL, GA, LSU, Auburn and possibly A&M.

Bama is close enough to Georgia and Mississippi (closer to Memphis than Knoxville) to have a built-in talent-proximity advantage over Tennessee. 

AL's in-state recruiting is marginally better than TN and they share the state with Auburn.

That just goes to show you how much more talent there is in that part of the country.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(region_of_Alabama)

Check out Bama's roster. 15 from FL, 10 from GA and LA. Add several each from TX, PA, CA, SC, MS and DC. They are getting the best recruits in the nation, not in the state. Also, many recruited in state will never stiff the field. Family played at Bama, or has big donation bucks, etc.

Bama's not positioned for the next 30 years to have a better record than Georgia or Florida.  They'll all have better records than Tennessee. 

TN is one Saban away from SEC dynasty.

LOL - oh, is that all?  There are 130 universities competing in Division 1. IF there's ever another Saban out there, it's highly unlikely he'll end up at Tennessee.  Why would he - he knows how much harder it would be to be dominant there.  If the A.D. at Tennessee had ever called Urban Meyer, he would have laughed in his face.  I'll ask you the same question that Roady refused to answer.  If Lincoln Riley was told he could coach at any school in the SEC, how many would he rank above Tennessee?  There's no way he'd come to Tennessee over Georgia, Florida, Alabama or LSU.  So you can try to argue that he'd take us fifth, but I doubt he'd come to Knoxville over Texas A&M and probably not Auburn.  I'd say we're probably about tied with Auburn ranked 7th and even that could be some residual arrogance left over from a few good years in the '90's. 

I'm not trying to put the school or the program down, I'm just trying to introduce some sanity.  I'd say the same thing to South Carolina or Arkansas fans, or any of the other present-day mid-tier programs. 

Kind of nice to be arguing about football with all the shit going on in the world.

I would say Auburn is better off being closer to GA than Bama is to MS. Since you voted in the last AL Senate election, so you should know your geography better than that.

BTW- Doug Jones is getting buried by TT (who says you can't have football and politics together). There's your landslide. 

Bama wasn't positioned to be better than FL and GA over the last 30 years, but.........

It was also highly unlikely that Saban ended up a AL. Rich Rodriguez turned them down. Yes, hard to imagine. The Bama job wasn't very appealing when Saban took it. He had failed in the pros and was willing to take it. They had been through the Mike's- DuBose, Price and Shula with Dennis Franchione. They sucked for 10 years. 

Bama has a marginal recruiting advantage over TN, but only marginal. The rest is bunk. 

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2020, 09:25:59 AM »
Phil recruited nationally for a decade to the likes of the current Alabama’s and Georgia’s, Ohio St. 

It can be done, because I’ve seen it done. 

Tennessee is very attractive.  But, we have to win a few of these big games before the recruits choose Us over them.  

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« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2020, 09:31:39 AM »
Great analysis there...everyone is full of s**t.  Wow,,,very astute.!!
How can anyone criticize that........:34:

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« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2020, 09:36:18 AM »
Great post Harvest. You have to ignore Fuzz on a lot of issues since he insist on showing his ignorance in a multitude issues including UT/ SEC football .
I do agree...it's nice to argue about football for a change. With all of the crap that's gone on this election cycle this is a welcome relief.

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« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2020, 09:48:38 AM »
Fuzz's standard seem to be ...if you aren't winning now then you're a middle tier program.
Ancient history seems to be whatever Fuzz decides is ancient.
If that is the case then if UT beats Kentucky next week we're can claim we're a top tier progranm again.
LSU has already lost 2 games this year  and last years NC is ancient history. This make LSU a bottom feeder program ,
Nonsense!!

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« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2020, 11:18:29 AM »
Fuzz's standard seem to be ...if you aren't winning now then you're a middle tier program.
Ancient history seems to be whatever Fuzz decides is ancient.
If that is the case then if UT beats Kentucky next week we're can claim we're a top tier progranm again.
LSU has already lost 2 games this year  and last years NC is ancient history. This make LSU a bottom feeder program ,
Nonsense!!
Well he is a Dem and we all know how they like to rewrite history.
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« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2020, 12:43:41 PM »

I would say Auburn is better off being closer to GA than Bama is to MS.

Irrelevant, but true.

Since you voted in the last AL Senate election, so you should know your geography better than that. 

Wut?  Don't tell me you're confusing me with Roady.  That'd get you banned if I had any say in the matter.  

Bama wasn't positioned to be better than FL and GA over the last 30 years, but...

With a proven national champion like Saban, it was.  If you want to fire every Tennessee coach every 4-5 years for not winning the SEC, then go ahead.  I'll keep trying to introduce you to reality.  

It was also highly unlikely that Saban ended up a AL. Rich Rodriguez turned them down. Yes, hard to imagine. The Bama job wasn't very appealing when Saban took it. He had failed in the pros and was willing to take it. They had been through the Mike's- DuBose, Price and Shula with Dennis Franchione. They sucked for 10 years. 

How're the other 125 programs out there doing who didn't luck into a unicorn?  I can't guarantee you it wont happen at Tennessee, but if you'd start being a little more realistic and a little less entitled, then you'd know I'm right.  

Bama has a marginal recruiting advantage over TN, but only marginal. 


The difference between 10 - 2 and 8 - 4 is marginal, too.  

 

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