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Topic: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
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awinatl · « **Reply #42 on:** October 11, 2020, 04:31:26 PM »

Quote from: DunkingDan on October 11, 2020, 12:47:27 PM

Without the TO's the game would have been much closer. You don't give Ga. or the Bamas of the worlds free possessions on a short field and survive

Without the TOs ?????? Our QB does it multiple times every time he plays a team with a pulse.

TREX · « **Reply #43 on:** October 11, 2020, 04:37:22 PM »

There are many bad memories with Loaf Bread but the worst may be when he was responsible for a 1 point turnaround at Bama when he decided to play hero

Drew4UTk · « **Reply #44 on:** October 11, 2020, 05:02:08 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 02:22:12 PM

I mentioned it several times in the game yesterday. Mozzou brings in a true freshman QB with no spring and limited fall practice, and while playing UT, lights it up.

Bazelak ( MO's QB) went 13-21 with no touchdowns and one interception
JG went 14-23 with a passing TD, two rushing TD's and no interceptions and won the game with no turnovers.
The MO QB didn't exactly light it up at a time when UT was playing 2 true freshmen in the defensive backfield due to injuries.
That's how urban legends get started.

you look at the box score- i look at the game... he brought energy to the team. he made several key strike passes. he tucked the ball and went after the marker, lowering his shoulder and taking the hit like a RB. he instinctually, seemingly, checked off routes and cloaked his reads enough to keep the coverage honest.

he is twice the QB of JG, and with minutes of gametime of college career behind him, and nowhere near the practice and experience of JG.

i've never seen that kind of moxy from JG. I see him playing scared- and almost like an actor playing a role they don't fully grasp.

and that may be the best way i've ever managed to communicate it: JG plays like an actor playing QB who isn't going to win any little statues for his effort.

gymvol · « **Reply #45 on:** October 11, 2020, 05:04:09 PM »

Am I bitter as Fuzzy said? As a VOL fan for over fifty years you're damn right I am and so should you be after all the years of piss poor coaching and piss poor recruiting. Fulmer started it by resting on his laurels letting the team go to shit. Then the hiring of the worst coaches possible along with giving them extensions. Then we end up paying millions of dollars in buyouts. I don't what world some of you live in but that should make anyone bitter and even make a preacher cuss.

Then we hire back the guy we paid 6 million dollars to fire and his first decision is to hire a BAMA alum. Now you tell me what other Vol For Life or even a fan would even contemplate hiring an alum of our most hated rival? None in their right mind that's who.

We have to many sunshine pumpers wearing orange colored glasses unwilling to admit Fulmer should never have been hired as AD, Pruitt a BAMA alum should never been hired as head coach and JG should not be starting at QB.

The coaching staff is getting paid millions of dollars to bring in better talent and recruits yet we're stuck with a 5th year Butch Jones recruit who is making the entire team look bad.

So what they hell have they been doing we should be starting a highly recruited junior or sophomore QB but no we still have to start your guys beloved JG because the coach knows better. That's Bull Shit.

So maybe you can tell me why the hell the HC is getting an extension for not doing what he was hired for? That would be recruiting that better talent and if he is he ain't playing it.

You folks can try to blame it on the O-line but that dog want hunt. It's the QB job to get the offense in the right plays if he can read defenses, get the ball out quickly and not fumble none of which JG has improved on since he was a freshman.

The O-line has been taking the shit for his poor play far to long when it's JG making them look bad with his decisions.

TREX · « **Reply #46 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:01:55 PM »

Quote from: TREX on October 11, 2020, 04:37:22 PM

There are many bad memories with Loaf Bread but the worst may be when he was responsible for a 1 point turnaround at Bama when he decided to play hero

14 point turnaround

roadvol · « **Reply #47 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:12:04 PM »

According to everything I've read and heard....the entire team is behind Guaratano. To a man they think he gives them the best chance to win.
I'm not a coach but whe the coaching staff and the team thinks he's the best QB then I believ them.
If there was unrest on the team a and a lot of harping about our QB then it would be time for a change.
So...after much consideration I think I'll side with the team and coaches over the computer commandos.

BTW...don't know if you listen to the Doug Matthews Show this morning but he made this statement....
The offensive line was so bad yesterday ,if Peyton Manning were quarterbacking the team yesterday he couldn't have done any better.
High praise from someone who thinks Manning is the best QB ever to play at Tennessee.

jgvol · « **Reply #48 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:17:41 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 07:12:04 PM

According to everything I've read and heard....the entire team is behind Guaratano. To a man they think he gives them the best chance to win.
I'm not a coach but whe the coaching staff and the team thinks he's the best QB then I believ them.
If there was unrest on the team a nd a lot of harping about our QB then it would be time for a change.

BTW...don't know if you listen to the Dough Matthews Show this morning but he made this statement....
If Peyton Manning were quarterbacking the team yesterday he couldn't have done any better.
High praise from someone who thinks Manning is the best QB ever to play at Tennessee.

Do we really believe that hyperbole, though?

I sure as hell don’t. Anybody that doesn’t think Peyton Manning would fare better, doesn’t deserve to be discussing football, as they obviously know less than nothing about the game.

Obviously, this is a gross exaggeration in a feeble attempt to absolve poor Jarrett from any blame yet again. That dog don’t hunt.

roadvol · « **Reply #49 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:20:49 PM »

Matthews point being that even Manning couldn't have had a good day if he was buried under a pile of Georgia defensive linemen or running for his life.
Good grief..you guys had to wait an entire year and 8 wins to come down this hard on JG.

jgvol · « **Reply #50 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:23:39 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 07:20:49 PM

Matthews point being that even Manning couldn't have had a good day if he was buried under a pile of Georgia defensive linemen or running for his life.

Yet, if the Georgia defense was scared of a passing game, like a decent QB would bring, may be the box isn’t loaded, and all out blitzes don’t happen.

See how one helps the other? And renders Matthews argument as pointless?

Volitale · « **Reply #51 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:30:54 PM »

I’m not sure how many of you have been in a huddle at that level or anything close, I have. The biggest problem with JG is his energy. He has this nervous, unsure, deer in headlights energy when the first thing goes wrong. Those that say it’s not all his fault are right, but I’d say most of it is his demeanor. If your leader is weak, your team will be weak. It’s like that in other aspects of life as well. I’m sure @Drew4UTk can back that up. A unit with a weak leader, will fail. That is what I see.

I don’t think it is about talent or Lack thereof. JG is just not a good leader. I don’t care if the guys support him or like him, he is not right fir the job. Period.

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #52 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:41:02 PM »

Quote from: roadvol on October 11, 2020, 03:36:36 PM

That's not the only reason. As you kinda admitted by refusing to argue before, Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC program and that's unlikely to change regardless of who's the coach.

What you apparently don't understand about SEC football and never will is almost every team has been considered a mid tier program at one time or another.

I understand that perfectly - it's provides the basis for your delusion. Sewanee used to be great. I'm talking about the present and future, and you're stuck living in an over-inflated impression you have of the past.

Georgia was a mid tier program in the 90's and early 2000's

Right, and they figured it out, didn't they?

Florida had always been considered a mid tier or lower before Spurrier became coach.

What makes you think we're ever going back to the 80's? Franklin used to be a farm-town. Now it's doubled in size full of suburbanites. Would you invest in a feed-and-seed in the middle of Cool Springs? Maybe thing'll back to the way they used to be? I wouldn't.

UT was one of the elites for several different eras and remains the second winningest program in SEC history even after a decade of futility.

A decade? Try over 2 decades as you would define futility. And you're still beating your head against the wall rather than coming to grips with reality.

Jim Donnan ain't runnin through that tunnel for Georgia. A couple of years back they signed the top high school quarterback in the country three years in a row (Eason, Fromm, Fields). Can you imagine Tennessee doing that?

It takes the right combination of coaching and school support to make a program elite and that is only fleeting.
Tennessee will be back, if not next year then 2, 3 4 years later.
If you follow UT and SEC you would know that.

Harrison Bailey may pan out, or maybe Ty Simpson can temporarily elevate us to the top of the East. If we can win the East 2 years every decade, and average 8 wins a year, then we're doing great (where we're supposed to be). But for the entitled, delusional fans who live in the past with unrealistic expectations, that's not going to be good enough.

The expectations at Georgia and Florida should be 9-10 wins/year, and win the East 4 times per decade. That's the reality this homer is perfectly fine with. You're never going to be happy as a Tennessee football fan if you think we "belong" at the top.

fuzzynavol · « **Reply #53 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Volitale on October 11, 2020, 07:30:54 PM

I’m not sure how many of you have been in a huddle at that level or anything close, I have. The biggest problem with JG is his energy. He has this nervous, unsure, deer in headlights energy when the first thing goes wrong. Those that say it’s not all his fault are right, but I’d say most of it is his demeanor. If your leader is weak, your team will be weak. It’s like that in other aspects of life as well. I’m sure @Drew4UTk can back that up. A unit with a weak leader, will fail. That is what I see.

I don’t think it is about talent or Lack thereof. JG is just not a good leader. I don’t care if the guys support him or like him, he is not right fir the job. Period.

I agree - I was hoping he'd finally take the field with command, confidence and presence this year, but he just doesn't have "it." Surely the coaches see that. I'm assuming that he's still our best option, but they're having a scrimmage in Knoxville today, and not to be a Drew-like conspiracy-theorist, but I'm wondering if part of the reason is to see where the other quarterbacks are, and see if one of them (Bailey?) gives them a reason to start playing him.

jgvol · « **Reply #54 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:48:29 PM »

Quote from: fuzzynavol on October 11, 2020, 07:45:33 PM

I agree - I was hoping he'd finally take the field with command, confidence and presence this year, but he just doesn't have "it." Surely the coaches see that. I'm assuming that he's still our best option, but they're having a scrimmage in Knoxville today, and not to be a Drew-like conspiracy-theorist, but I'm wondering if part of the reason is to see where the other quarterbacks are, and see if one of them (Bailey?) gives them a reason to start playing him.

Lets hope SOMEONE gives them a reason to pull JG. This is kind of a throw away year anyway, in a sense. The future is now. Let’s get a head start on 2021.

Volitale · « **Reply #55 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:56:44 PM »

What Pruitt should have done Saturday is pull JG for at least a series after the INT. Let him calm down, get his head straight. I guarantee you, Saban wouldn’t have hesitated to pull his QB in the same scenario.

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