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Topic: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?

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DunkingDan

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2020, 12:45:35 PM »
I've never seen a QB have a good day passing while on his back.
When you have no running game and the defense only has to key on the OB there's no way JG is going to have a good day.
The problem wasn't the QB. The OL had a terrible day. They were completely overmatched by UGA's defensive line.
JG is not a great QB but he's not a bad QB. He's a servicebale QB and if we had a better alternative JG wouldn't be playing.
We don't have an alternative at the moment but help is on the way.Bailey will be a 3-4 year starter but he missed almost all of pre-season practice due to Covid isolation. It would not be fair to him to throw him in when not ready.
If I recall correctly some of the QB core had injuries as well. The Rec, group missed alot of time due to covid. Most of the line has not got to practice together which is critical to perform as a unit. The DL and LBs are short handed. DB depth will get better as practice time increases.

This team is better than last years. More quality help is coming. Some will take time to develop but more and more quality players are signing or we are in the mix for that are instant players.

CJP inherited a CF just like Majors did. It will still take time.

     
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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2020, 12:47:27 PM »
I thought yesterday's game was a good guage as to where we are as a team. We hung tough for one half  and the talent diference and UGA's depth showed up the second half.
I have to say I thought our OL was much better. The UGA DL completely overwhlemed our OL and I wasn't expecting that.
Without the TO's the game would have been much closer. You don't give Ga. or the Bamas of the worlds free possessions on a short field and survive
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2020, 12:49:23 PM »
I will criticize a player for apparently lack of effort on the field AND really poor sportsmanship, like spraying Gatorade on an opponent on the sideline. 

Crass immature move, and I hope he runs until he drops today.
He deserves a suspension for that 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2020, 12:51:18 PM »
I would suspend him.  It's not the first time, and he didn't learn from his antics last time.

I'd also explain to him clearly that he is costing himself a lot of money IF the NFL is still interested after next season.

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2020, 01:51:01 PM »
I mentioned it several times in the game yesterday.  Mozzou brings in a true freshman QB with no spring and limited fall practice, and while playing UT, lights it up. 

How does Mozzou find QBs over UT?  That freshman played at a level JG is incapable of four years as starter... JG still stares down receivers... he still throws inaccurately more often than otherwise, and most importantly he doesn't inspire the team.  He is a good kid by all accounts I know of, and he's seemingly busting his ass trying.  He's being thrust into a position he's simply not equipped to handle. 

"He practices lights out".  He doesn't bring that to the game.  "He is the best we have"..... how do yall know that? Trusting coaches? Well, we should... they know a hell of a lot more than we do, however- this clinging to JG is weird, super weird.  It's prompted my belief that there is some sort of contract between the school and JG likely offered by Butch who was connected with the kids father and some relation to Rutgers.  I could SO see daddy saying "yeah he'll play for you, but you must guarantee his participation and as starter" and dumb ass butch saying "oh yeah, sure thing! Brick by brick man!"... to the response "uh, no... put it in writing and under seal".

Last year Mauer was fragile.  I've heard he's laid on some sophomore weight- and is 230ish now and solid.  Thats huge because that, in my opinion, was his limitation last season.  Maybe Bailey is the answer. The kid from USC, give him some reps...

The D broke down yesterday because they were whooped by the beginning of the third.  They were on the field too much because of dumb ass mistakes by JG.  They played inspired and like times of old early on and until the half.  The goal line stand was legend.  The last graphic I saw was UGA 70something plays to UTs 50something... I didn't see TOP, but it had to be equally lopsided.  UGA is the better team by every measure, but UT withstood them well until the frustration and exhaustion took grip.

I like JG.  He's a great kid.  He's simply over his head.  There is another reason he's playing..... there has to be.... with three QBs behind him who are highly touted,  it doesn't make sense otherwise. 

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2020, 01:58:02 PM »
Possession            23:22               36:38

Tenn had 63 plays, UGA ran 77.

Tenn was 4 for 17 on third down, UGA was 8 for 16 (and 0 for 2 on fourth down, still a problem for them).




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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2020, 01:58:36 PM »
Sorry, someone deleted a post made here, to which I responded.
The post was not meant for this thread hence I deleted it. It was my post.
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2020, 02:22:12 PM »
I mentioned it several times in the game yesterday.  Mozzou brings in a true freshman QB with no spring and limited fall practice, and while playing UT, lights it up. 

Bazelak ( MO's QB) went 13-21 with no touchdowns and one interception
JG went 14-23 with a passing TD, two rushing TD's and no interceptions  and won the game with no turnovers.
The MO QB didn't exactly light it up at a time when UT was playing 2 true freshmen in the defensive backfield due to injuries.
That's how urban legends get started.

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2020, 02:33:09 PM »
Here's how I feel and what I am...

Brace yourselves...

I admit I'm a homer, a die hard  fan regardless of wins or losses.

Same here.

UT has enough critics who choose to call the coaches names like "TaterHead" and our AD "Phat Phil".

Agree.  Too many.

It that makes you feel better about yourself..knock yourself out.

Gymmie's a bitter man.

The critics are what got us into the sad state of affairs we're been in.

Kinda true, but it's actually the UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF ENTITLED FANS that has spawned these critics.

Firing one coach after another, criticizing everything that happens has prevented coaches we've gone after to decline.

That's not the only reason.  As you kinda admitted by refusing to argue before, Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC program and that's unlikely to change regardless of who's the coach.  

Pruitt is not flashy, he's not a Mike Leach or other headline grabbing coach out there, but he knows football. He's a good coach

Completely agree.

and given time we'll be back where we belong.

THERE'S THE PROBLEM.  THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT.

We don't "belong" at the top of the East, we "belong" in 3rd place.  We can win the East on occasion, whenever we are superior at quarterback, but I wouldn't get comfortable thinking that's where we "belong."  

His career and reputation are on the line everytime we take the field and if he thinks JG is the best possible QB at this time then I trust his judgement.

Agree - good point.  

Second guessing coaches and coaching decisions is a hobby a lot of people enjoy.....it's just not what I choose to do even when I do get frustrated with the outcome.

Agree.  Kinda.  

I'll never publically criticize a player and think it doesn't relfect well on anyone who does.

Not even that lime-green suit Casey Clausen used to wear during the Vol Walk?

Now...you're free to call be a sunshine pumper, a homer, an apologist whatever comes to mind but that's the way I feel and not planning on changing.

Always looking for an excuse to close your mind...

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2020, 03:36:36 PM »

That's not the only reason.  As you kinda admitted by refusing to argue before, Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC program and that's unlikely to change regardless of who's the coach.  


What you apparently don't understand about SEC football and never will is almost every team has been considered a mid tier program at one time or another.
Georgia was a mid tier program in the 90's and early 2000's , Florida had always been considered a mid tier or lower before Spurrier became coach. UT was one of the elites for several different eras and remains the second winningest program in SEC history even after a decade of futility.. It takes the right combination of coaching and school support to make a program elite and that is only fleeting.
Tennessee will be back, if not next year then 2, 3 4 years later.
If you follow UT and SEC you would know that.

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2020, 03:43:12 PM »
Obviously it starts with recruiting, and then player development, and then scheme, and then gameday, and a few other items (conditioning).  Everyone knows that.

To the extent 247 recruiting figures means anything, Tenn has ranked 17th, 21st, 13th, and 10th since 2017.  UGA has ranked 3,1,2,1 over that period.  That is a difference in getting several five stars versus one, or none, plus 4s.  When you recruit 5 stars, many can play as freshmen, and get experience, so when they turn over a year they are quite good (often).  A three star obviously can become elite, but usually it takes time.

When your second team defense is basically as good as your first, and both are very good, you just keep pressuring and playing at a high level, no plays off.  When Tennessee is consistently in the top five in recruiting, they will equalize on the basic talent level and be "back".

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2020, 03:46:50 PM »
That's not the only reason.  As you kinda admitted by refusing to argue before, Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC program and that's unlikely to change regardless of who's the coach. 


What you apparently don't understand about SEC football and never will is almost every team has been considered a mid tier program at one time or another.
Georgia was a mid tier program in the 90's and early 2000's , Florida had always been considered a mid tier or lower before Spurrier became coach. UT was one of the elites for several different eras and remains the second winningest program in SEC history even after a decade of futility.. It takes the right combination of coaching and school support to make a program elite and that is only fleeting.
Tennessee will be back, if not next year then 2, 3 4 years later.
If you follow UT and SEC you would know that.
I would argue two decades of frustration   
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2020, 04:02:10 PM »
agree!!!

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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2020, 04:29:47 PM »
How Pruitt keeps trotting this QB out there is malpractice ..... his turnovers against good teams are all back breakers EVERY TIME!!!!! Any of our other QBs can turn the ball over repeatedly inside our own 30, any of our QBs can throw 4 good balls per game. The guy has improved ZERO with like 50 starts under his belt..... he’s a freaking JOKE so the coach must be too for refusing to try an alternative 

 

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