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Topic: Good News, Bad News for the football team. 9 DBs are Seniors

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roadvol

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Re: Good News, Bad News for the football team. 9 DBs are Seniors
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2023, 11:37:47 AM »
Heupel is doing a Fulmer the OC Joey Halzle is a good friend coached with him before as did Martinez the secondary coach. We saw what happened with that when Fulmer chose friendship over coaching ability.
I doubt Martinez is calling the plays. Hauple would not trust a first year OC to call plays for him. I think it's probably Hauple and he's calling plays for this years team like it was still last years team.

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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2023, 11:39:52 AM »
https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennessee-vols-alabama-news-crimson-tide-sec-football/


Have watched UT/Bama games for many years and when you go to Tuscaloosa you might as well adapt to never getting a decent call. Not sure if the refs are in the tank, intimidated by Saban or just incomeptant but it's happened too many times to be random. 

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Re: Good News, Bad News for the football team. 9 DBs are Seniors
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2023, 11:43:05 AM »
I'm not sure I've seen a worse officiated game.  Bama's OL frequently held and never got called for it.  Is it any wonder we didn't get to Milroe?  A&M sacked him 5 times and our pass rush is better than theirs, hands down. 

The one that got me was when our LB clapped and the refs threw a flag.  That's the first time I've ever seen that. 


TN had to have TDs instead of FGs in the first half. The ONLY way to overcome what was coming in the second half. 

Too much at stake for Bama to lose. GA is not playoff certain with key injures. Saban was not concerned at the half.  

The refs can control most any game. The timing of the calls or non-calls is key.  

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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2023, 11:48:42 AM »
I'm not sure I've seen a worse officiated game.  Bama's OL frequently held and never got called for it.  Is it any wonder we didn't get to Milroe?  A&M sacked him 5 times and our pass rush is better than theirs, hands down. 

The one that got me was when our LB clapped and the refs threw a flag.  That's the first time I've ever seen that. 


The phantom fair catch is also a head scratcher. Someone on another board posted the offical NCAA rules for a fair catch and there's no way in hell that was a fair catch. If that were the case, every kickoff this season would be a fair catch.

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2023, 02:20:05 PM »
Great quarterbacks make the entire offense look better, makes the plays when needed and opens up the entire offense so it isn't limited.

True.  But I still think that Milton would look a lot better this year if Bru McCoy wasn't out with an injury and Jalin Hyatt and Cedric Tillman were still starting at receiver.

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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2023, 03:50:51 PM »
Both White and Keaton made circus catches to help .Milton.

Donte "Im good just axed me " Thorton not so much

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2023, 04:47:44 PM »
I doubt Martinez is calling the plays. Hauple would not trust a first year OC to call plays for him. I think it's probably Hauple and he's calling plays for this years team like it was still last years team.

I know who Martinez is, he coaches' defensive backs which has been a weak point in the defense since Heupel became coach and hasn't improved much. He brought him from UCF which is the point I was making about friends over coaching ability. 

If you look at Martinez resume' he's been on 14 different coaching staffs been at Tennessee twice and the secondary shows he hasn't improved since he was here first time.  So that should tell any head coach if he was good assistant coach, he wouldn't have to keep his suitcase packed. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2023, 06:26:06 PM »
Who was head coach when Martinez was at UT in his first time.
I do remember that was the weak area back then 

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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2023, 06:35:16 PM »
He has been trying to establish stability. Not only with payers but with staff as well. Something we have need but lacked for 2 damn decades



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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2023, 11:02:10 AM »

Stability comes from playing the people who gives the team the best chance of winning. Also from having a coaching staff who does the same not just because they're friends.

Everyone in the country can start a 5-star freshman QB except TN who uses any excuse that can be made up to play a 6-year senior who isn't any better now than when he was a freshman at Michigan.

Alabama won national championships with freshman quarterbacks.

The players know and what the fans are seeing. That's why you see what happens when the best isn't played, and assistant coaches are lacking in ability.

It's called lack of effort going through the motions.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2023, 06:38:02 PM »
Stability comes from playing the people who gives the team the best chance of winning. Also from having a coaching staff who does the same not just because they're friends.

Everyone in the country can start a 5-star freshman QB except TN who uses any excuse that can be made up to play a 6-year senior who isn't any better now than when he was a freshman at Michigan.

Alabama won national championships with freshman quarterbacks.

The players know and what the fans are seeing. That's why you see what happens when the best isn't played, and assistant coaches are lacking in ability.

It's called lack of effort going through the motions.
He has been trying to establish stability. Not only with payers but with staff as well.  (Something they even teach in Business 101 for businesses about need for stability in management staff) Something we have need but lacked for 2 damn decades. You might want to check on the coaches resume before you whine to much, Granted it is not top line but it is not shabby and given the level of talent he has had to work with.

Bama did not use a Fresh QB that did not have the body to withstand hits from SEC players size and strength. Go look at film of when he was in and hit but non SEC caliber (size, strength and level of ability) players.

When you criticize Joe think about how well Hooker would have done without many of the pieces missing from last year. Granted he would have probably done better but I doubt hs stats would have been as stellar.

Since next years is going to be a lot of underclassman, I expect you will still show us your Monday morning non expertise.
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