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Topic: Week 7 power rankings

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MikeDeTiger

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Week 7 power rankings
« on: October 14, 2019, 02:53:58 PM »
I'm not good at this, but just as a starting point:

1)  Bama -- had to work a little bit, but destroyed a team that's probably better than their final record will suggest
2)  LSU -- gaining ground, need to fix some defensive issues.  Punting twice against Florida is good
3)  Florida -- blinked on a couple of plays that allowed a close game to look worse on the scoreboard
4)  Auburn -- I don't know who else to put here.  Oregon is still a good win and the DL is still excellent
5)  Missouri -- defense has been good overall so far.  Not quite sold on them as a dark horse for the east, but for now I'll put them here
6)  UGA -- that was a pretty rough outing.  Probably better than 6, but that team has problems right now
7)  A&M -- no good games to speak of, but that schedule is brutal.  I think I'd favor them right now on a neutral field against the rest of the teams, and maybe UGA if they played right now
8)  USC -- yeah, I know, winning @ UGA they shouldn't be this low, but that's a resume point which doesn't go in a power poll, and I still have trouble believing in this team, especially with the injuries they're looking at after Saturday.  Nice defense tho.  Beat Florida and I'll move them way up
9)  Ole Miss -- decent showing against a decent Mizzou team.  Not great, not terrible
10)  Tenn -- an FBS win!  This team is playing harder the last few weeks, need to keep it going
11)  Clanga -- not a good look, Cowbells.  The Moorhead era post-Simmons/Sweat is off to a bad start
12)  Kentucky -- okay win vs. an Arkansas team that's starting to show small signs of life, I guess
13)  Arky -- see above about showing signs of life.  But still quite a ways to go before revived and conscious
14)  Vandy -- back to being Vandy it appears.  Losing to UNLV is inexcusable, let alone getting thrashed



This list sucks.  Polls are dumb. 



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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2019, 06:09:41 PM »
list looks fine. few changes:

i might swap lsu and bama. they're both playing pretty well right now, but lsu has done it vs good opposition twice now. bama hasn't even done it once yet. not that they can't or won't, but just haven't had chance. also, if both don't screw up, we'll have another 1v2 in tuscaloosa. any chance cbs doesn't pick that up as the night game? (please, oh please)

would probably put uga 5th and mizzou 6th for a power ranking. i still think uga wins east at seasons end, but right now i'd take uf over uga, then uga over everyone else in east. mizzou no slouch, though, and uga trending down.

tenn starting to show signs of life. if they challenge bama even as much as aTm and usc did (which wasn't all that much, tbh) then i'll start to believe in them a little. at least it's moving in right direction, though.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2019, 09:00:47 AM »
1. Bama
2. LSU
3. Florida
4. Auburn
5. Georgia
6. Missouri (probation sucks for them this year)
7. aTm
8. usc
9. Kentucky
10. Ole Miss
11. Tennessee
12. Arkansas
13. msu
14. Vandy
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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2019, 04:05:21 PM »
i might swap lsu and bama. they're both playing pretty well right now, but lsu has done it vs good opposition twice now. bama hasn't even done it once yet.


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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 08:51:38 PM »
All we had to do was lose to get respect!
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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2019, 11:48:25 AM »
Although I *think* UA is a better overall team top to bottom, I'd swap LSU over Bama, simply because I still believe Duke is the best team Bama has played. Otherwise, no arguments from me. 

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 03:26:13 PM »
I'm beginning to really question our coaching at UGA, I suppose that isn't unusual among the fan base.

I'm not saying anyone should be fired, but this sort of occasional underperformance was something folks did not like about Richt.  That game was mystifying.  I guess teams can have a game where everything that could go wrong did.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2019, 05:29:23 PM »
Cincy, I gotta say... that was a tough, conference (under-appreciated) rivalry game but--

That game floored me. Absolutely out of left field. Not sure what happened but it beat all odds. Maybe the Athens boys partied last Friday night? Eesh.

While I agree you don't want to flip out, UGA is way too loaded for that performance (and, as you say, it's not unknown from the last staff). 

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2019, 06:12:50 PM »
list looks fine. few changes:

i might swap lsu and bama. they're both playing pretty well right now, but lsu has done it vs good opposition twice now. bama hasn't even done it once yet. not that they can't or won't, but just haven't had chance. also, if both don't screw up, we'll have another 1v2 in tuscaloosa. any chance cbs doesn't pick that up as the night game? (please, oh please)

would probably put uga 5th and mizzou 6th for a power ranking. i still think uga wins east at seasons end, but right now i'd take uf over uga, then uga over everyone else in east. mizzou no slouch, though, and uga trending down.

tenn starting to show signs of life. if they challenge bama even as much as aTm and usc did (which wasn't all that much, tbh) then i'll start to believe in them a little. at least it's moving in right direction, though.
Although I *think* UA is a better overall team top to bottom, I'd swap LSU over Bama, simply because I still believe Duke is the best team Bama has played. Otherwise, no arguments from me.
Per http://teamrankings.com , Alabama has played the 5th toughest schedule so far, the hardest schedule among all the undefeated teams.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2019, 06:50:31 PM »
As is often the case, the UGA-USC game hinged on turnovers (among other things).  But, UGA was not effective on offense anyway.  They would often get a nice 7-8 yard run on 1st down, throw an incomplete pass, and get stuffed on third, or so it seemed to me.  USC managed to get very good pressure on Fromm, one example resulted in their pick six (when UGA was driving) and others resulted in sacks and errant throws.  UGA had allowed only one sack all year, USC got three or four, coupled with near sacks many more times.  Running plays were usually successful, 5-9 yards per rush was typical other than on 3rd down and short, that issue has remained a problem.

It was like the first half against Tennessee in some ways.  Anyway, they obviously are not the kind of team that can steam roll inferior teams consistently.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2019, 11:42:51 PM »
Per http://teamrankings.com , Alabama has played the 5th toughest schedule so far, the hardest schedule among all the undefeated teams.
It's difficult to accurately rate the schedule strength of the top teams.  Why?  Most people view a tough schedule by how many games you play against teams that could realistically beat you.  The problem with this is the better you are, the fewer teams there are that can pose a real threat.  So while Bama's SOS is strong based on logarithms (objective), their SOS seems weaker because Carolina and A&M weren't viewed as real threats by the masses.


That being said, LSU's schedule has obviously been tougher, as these objective logarithms tend to differentiate between the teams with no real threat to beat you when they can honestly all just be thrown in a bargain bin.  LSU has beaten 2 top ten teams in Texas and Florida.  These are both better than either of Bama's wins over Carolina and A&M.  To a computer, Duke and Southern Miss are better than Utah St or GA Southern and the other patsies on LSU's schedule, but they're all no-chance-to-win teams when facing a Bama or an LSU.  Bargain bin.



I think most of us would agree.  And whether you think Bama will beat LSU or not - now, based on who they've played (and beaten), LSU's resume is better.
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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2019, 08:53:59 AM »
Yup.  A top team like Alabama has few tough opponents who realistically could defeat them.  I don't count teams like Duke for that reason.  LSU beat Florida and Texas, teams that could beat them potentially.  Whoever else they played doesn't really count either.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2019, 10:06:06 AM »
Per http://teamrankings.com , Alabama has played the 5th toughest schedule so far, the hardest schedule among all the undefeated teams.
i don't care what some random website says about bama sos compared to lsu's. from an ease of navagation perspective, i'd take bama's schedule so far over lsu's, no question.

we haven't played a team that could beat bama unless bama completely falls apart with multiple turnovers and probably some fluky plays and injuries as well. lsu has played 2 teams that if lsu doesn't play lights out, could very easily win, and it wouldn't really be much of an upset.

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Re: Week 7 power rankings
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2019, 10:28:29 AM »
All we had to do was lose to get respect!

I definitely plan on moving LSU to #1 when we lose.  

 

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