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Topic: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing

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MikeDeTiger

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2017, 04:06:15 PM »
They were down to something like just over 70 scholarship players for our game a couple weeks ago.  

I still desire answers for why we had 5 O-linemen transfer out of the program this off-season.  

I also wonder if karma demands that we lose to Ole Miss in exchange for beating Auburn.  

Right now we're still on pace for what I hoped out of this team, just not the way I thought.  Very unforeseen loss to Troy, but we traded that for an unforeseen win vs. AU.  Will almost certainly lose to Alabama, that's still to come.  Plus one game somewhere that I thought pre-season we probably "shouldn't" lose, but would, because those happen.  I wouldn't have picked MSU, but that qualifies.  

So we're still on track, so to speak, but Alabama needs to be the only remaining loss.  Not sure I trust this team to beat Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas, and A&M.  We could be favored in all, but it smells like there's another loss sitting in there somewhere.  We'll see if last week maybe had some sort of galvanizing effect.  The D-line is slowly getting a little healthier, which did help against Auburn.  

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2017, 04:08:03 PM »
Run the ball 17 straight first downs? : wde - reddit.com
www.reddit.com/r/wde/comments/76gxdj/run_the...

I am sorry but running the ball 17 straight times on first down especially when you have a good passer at quarterback is just plain stupid. You could take somebody who has never seen a football game and they would come to the same conclusion. That is why Auburn lost.

I'm glad LSU won. Auburn was looking scary good. I'm still not going to deny reality.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2017, 06:57:31 PM »
So a disillusioned Auburn fan on reddit is a credible game management source?  Okay, I'm also a fan who has access to the internet, so I'll weigh in with my expert advice now too.
It's easy to see why Auburn didn't pass the ball more.  LSU had ELEVEN PASS BREAKUPS, all after the first quarter.  Stidham went 5/7 for 119 in the first quarter.  Then in the second quarter he went 2/6 for 40, and then in the second half he was 2/13 for 6 YARDS.  Did I mention the 11 PBU's?  Only a couple of teams will register that many PBU's in a game all year, and we were one of them last Saturday.  So Stidham went in the tank and/or LSU's secondary dominated the WRs, and the pass rush finally showed up pretty well.  And some of those PBUs were dangerously close to INTs.  Auburn didn't throw the ball more because their passing game was getting absolutely dominated.  
Ask any Auburn fan 35 or over if they remember the infamous "Pass LSU Pass!" game.  God knows I do.  Nobody wants to be the coach who commits crimes like that.  It's pretty easy to see why AU didn't throw the ball more.  It wasn't getting them anything.  Nothing.  
There were a handful of drives AU ran on first down and got 4-5 yard gains.  Then they would try a pass which never went well, and then they would try and cobble something together for 3rd down.  I repeat:  if anything, AU should have ran MORE.  It's not like LSU's run defense is anything to write home about this year.  
And it's not like Auburn put the offense in the shed and went into a shell.  Sure, they got up 20-0, but the next time they touched the ball, it was back down to 20-7, and Auburn had a chance to slam the door.  They wanted to score, obviously, because they did so.  AU pushed the lead back up to 23-7.  Then LSU got a TD before the half.  So it was 23-14 the next time AU got the ball, now in the 3rd quarter and after a sustained LSU drive.  It would be insane to believe the game was salted away at that point, so AU was definitely still trying to score.  There was never a point they were in start-up-the-bus mode on offense.
What I would be more concerned about if I were an Auburn fan is 
1)  Why didn't LSU lose the line of scrimmage a lot more?
2)  Gus saying after the game "they really broke our back with that punt return."  What?  LSU was still losing at that point! 
3)  The fact that Gus was right.  AU looked dead in the water on their sidelines.  
I can meet you halfway and reiterate that I do think some game management should be questioned.  I think Auburn should've gone for 4th and 1 at the 50 late, and then very late they should have punted on 4th and 10 with all their timeouts.  It was crazy to go for it there--even down 2 points--when the passing game had netted squat for 3 quarters.  But this idea that the playcalling was bad is nothing more than your justifying that Auburn is a better team and yet lost the game.  That happens.  As I said earlier, LSU isn't the better team this season, but they were the better team last Saturday.  
And for one moment I'll grant you for the sake of argument that AU's playcalling was bad.  Okay.....so what?  Playcalling is part of being the better team, and if AU didn't have it, then they weren't the better team that day.  
Playcalling is a convenient scapegoat for the loss, but reality doesn't back it up, and that's not being delusional.  That's the facts of the game, and I question your football knowledge if you watched that game and thought Auburn should've been throwing the ball more.  

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2017, 07:31:31 AM »
Wow.  

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2017, 01:24:12 PM »
I was on a roll.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2017, 01:38:02 PM »
Because there's not a lot to hang my hat on this season, I wanna reiterate that 11 PBU's is crazy, even for us.  If a team gets 5 or 6 PBUs in a game, that secondary has had itself a whale of a game.  That's really good.  10+ is something you hardly ever see.  LSU and Florida style themselves "DBU," and they're not usually going to get close to 11.  

11 is either really, really dialed in or else the WRs and the QB is that bad.  Or some combination.  But that's not even misfires or bad balls.  11 PBUs is the difference in Stidham going 9/26 and 20/26 and setting some kind of record against us.  

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2017, 05:05:44 AM »
Well, I'm glad you softened them up for us... oh wait....

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2017, 10:06:41 AM »
Because there's not a lot to hang my hat on this season, I wanna reiterate that 11 PBU's is crazy, even for us.  If a team gets 5 or 6 PBUs in a game, that secondary has had itself a whale of a game.  That's really good.  10+ is something you hardly ever see.  LSU and Florida style themselves "DBU," and they're not usually going to get close to 11.  

11 is either really, really dialed in or else the WRs and the QB is that bad.  Or some combination.  But that's not even misfires or bad balls.  11 PBUs is the difference in Stidham going 9/26 and 20/26 and setting some kind of record against us.  
just did a quick glance at the top 15-20 or so in pbu on cfbstats.com. osu and lsu have both had 11 pbu games, and usf and au, of all teams, have had 12 pbu games. there was only a couple of 10's too, but can't remember them.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2017, 12:06:53 PM »
Not unexpectedly, much of the "talk" about UGA in the media (and among some fans) is how they stack up against another SEC team that had enjoyed some recent success.  I suppose it is the kind of hypothetical expected in an off week.  It also is pretty high praise for that other team.

The undercurrent is "I fear not", as in "Probably not yet.", which also is high praise.

I surmise most hereabouts would agree with the "Not yet, but mebbe in a bit" thought.

If somehow Penn State loses to Michigan Saturday evening, those two SEC teams would be atop the rankings, to the extent that means anything.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2017, 02:27:58 PM »
it might mean something should they both hold on to those 2 spots heading into seccg. a 1vs 2 seccg, if it's close, and if 2 other conf play themselves out (pac and bigxii most likely, imo, most parity in those leagues) then it could be first chance for 2 teams from same conf.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2017, 10:46:09 PM »
I'm not even going to ask who might reach out and stun Bama with a win.  Who might give them a game?  What did A&M do to stay close?  Can anyone else mimic that?  Is it just Auburn, case closed?
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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2017, 08:11:38 AM »
it might mean something should they both hold on to those 2 spots heading into seccg. a 1vs 2 seccg, if it's close, and if 2 other conf play themselves out (pac and bigxii most likely, imo, most parity in those leagues) then it could be first chance for 2 teams from same conf.
Unlikely of course, but possible.  I can't see an Alabama at 12-1 being left out, but UGA at 12-1 might be left out.  I read somewhere that Bama would be a 7 point favorite over UGA at this point, which perhaps is about right.  That would mean about a 1 in 3 chance of an upset.  Notre Dame is still lingering, we'll see how long they can linger today.
It would be "fun" if the SEC CG were two 12-0 teams ranked 1-2 though, in a dream.

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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2017, 09:46:18 AM »
If a #2 Georgia beat a #1 Bama in ATL, no one on the committee could look at themselves in the mirror and honestly believe that 12-1 Bama wasn't one of the top 4 teams in the country.
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Re: Week 7 "Power" Rankings of Malaise and Sighing
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2017, 09:50:15 AM »
The committee IMHO does not simply look for the four best teams, but for the four best teams "for the playoff".  They weight things like conference championships by their own admission.  Granted last year they took an at large, but I see that as being rare and when other conference champs have more losses than an 11-1 at large.

If they have five teams at 12-1, I think they will USUALLY pick the four that are conference winners and leave out the CG loser, treating the CGs like something of Round One of an 8 team playoff.

 

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