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Cincydawg

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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2021, 03:32:23 PM »
Generally, I dislike firing a coach midseason, but if there is "cause" I'm for it, though cause can be contrived as you note.  Or ignored.

If they lose at UK, perhaps they will find sufficient cause.  I suspect down the road they reach and out of court and pay him a portion.
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2021, 07:20:04 PM »
Could be, we'll see.  

I do think he finishes the season no matter what.  Like I told Joe, I don't see anyone on staff they can hand the keys to, even temporarily. 
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2021, 08:41:23 PM »
Dang. Would you really fire the coach who just won the CFP from the year before last?  
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2021, 09:26:17 PM »
Auburn fired Gene Chizik two years after winning the NC.
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2021, 09:48:53 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on October 04, 2021, 08:41:23 PM
Dang. Would you really fire the coach who just won the CFP from the year before last? 
Replacing a coach is not always the solution, and sometimes you end up with someone worse.  But if you are convinced he's not the solution you might as well roll the dice. 

As for winning the nc 2 years ago, I think at this point it's safe to say it was a happy accident.  I'd thank him for the memories and leave it there.  His selling point was that he'd be a great recruiter and hire the best coaches.  But he's failed at almost all of his hires, and while his classes look nice high up in the 247 composite rankings, those classes don't look so good today.  A bunch of them transfered , some don't pan out, and the positional needs haven't been handled well (see:  worst O-line in school history).  There's a lot more I could say about his hires and his lack of philosophy that impedes the team, but you get the idea. 

And to reiterate, he'd have a longer period of grace if not for his personal shortcomings.  
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2021, 11:12:14 AM »
Yeah, I see a mess on multiple fronts, most of which lies at his feet.
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2021, 01:23:20 PM »
First and 10: 2019 has never felt farther away for Ed Orgeron. It's win or walk, now (saturdaydownsouth.com)
First and 10: 2019 has never felt farther away for Ed Orgeron. It's win or walk, now (saturdaydownsouth.com)

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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2021, 01:57:43 PM »
In that article, those stats about the run game are actually skewed more positively than the reality.  They include bumps for McNeese and Central Michigan (which were still very bad, but better than vs. P5 teams).  Vs P5 the numbers are near unimaginably poor. 

LSU had -6 yards rushing at the half against AU.  32 for the game.  Take out QB #'s and it's worse.  According to PFF LSU averaged -0.6 yards before contact on run plays.  
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2021, 02:01:35 PM »
How can you be negative on YBC?

Your line stops you?
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2021, 05:32:55 PM »
It means on average you got hit by defenders behind the line of scrimmage.  Such a stat usually points to a terrible O-line, which is the case here.  
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2021, 08:37:31 AM »
If I get hit behind the line, I'd have zero YAC, not negative.  This must mean the OL gets pushed back and the RB goes backwards after contact, or something.

Maybe the RB breaks a tackle and runs backwards.
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2021, 05:24:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 06, 2021, 08:37:31 AM
If I get hit behind the line, I'd have zero YAC, not negative.  This must mean the OL gets pushed back and the RB goes backwards after contact, or something.

Maybe the RB breaks a tackle and runs backwards.

It's not YAC, it's yards before contact.  i.e., how many yards does a back make it before contact with a defender (regardless of how many yards he winds up gaining on the play).  The LOS is 0.  If you're hit right on the los, that's 0 yards before contact.  If your line opens a huge hole and it's 6 yards before a defender touches you, you got 6 yards before contact, even if you carry the pile for a total of 10 yards on the play.  If the line is made of swiss cheese and you get hit a half a yard behind the los, you had -0.5 yards before contact.

If you averaged -0.6 yards before contact for a game, everything about your rushing attack sucks.  

The yards per carry was positive (though tiny), so it means that on average the backs powered forward for a small gain even after being hit in the backfield.    
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2021, 05:40:29 PM »
Speaking of weak sex, that reminds me of this one girl I tried to start something up with in Hallettesville, TX who totally shut me down.  I wasn't used to that.  Louisiana girls always seemed immune to my charms, but something about Texas girls....they liked me.  Maybe it's the accent.  I married a Texas girl, probably because that seems to be the only state with women who would have me.  Anyway, there was this gorgeous girl I met at the courthouse one day, we talked for a while, I was feeling good about things, I asked her out, she said no.  

It's on topic for the thread....it was weak, because there was no sex.  

I'd rather talk about that then LSU football.  
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Re: Weak Sex
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2021, 12:29:49 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on October 06, 2021, 05:40:29 PM
Speaking of weak sex, that reminds me of this one girl I tried to start something up with in Hallettesville, TX who totally shut me down.  I wasn't used to that.  Louisiana girls always seemed immune to my charms, but something about Texas girls....they liked me.  Maybe it's the accent.  I married a Texas girl, probably because that seems to be the only state with women who would have me.  Anyway, there was this gorgeous girl I met at the courthouse one day, we talked for a while, I was feeling good about things, I asked her out, she said no. 

It's on topic for the thread....it was weak, because there was no sex. 

I'd rather talk about that then LSU football. 
You remedied the situation and appear to have come out quite well, so no worries there.

The past decade (and much of the 80s and 90s) has certainly led me to understand wanting to talk about anything other than football, though.
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