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[rolltidefan]

i honestly don't know what to expect. except a shit ton of penalties, cause both these teams like to see those yellow flags flying.

called it, unfortunately.

edit to be clear, most were deserved. and refs missed some for both teams. though i guess i still don't understand what targeting is, but not sure it changes outcome of the game if it is called.

[MikeDeTiger]

called it, unfortunately.

That team could've set sail with the amount of flags they had flying.  

[Drew4UTk]

A surging tennessee and a bama team playing more undisciplined than I've seen them play under Saban set this one up.  

The calls were bad.  Holding by the OLine in particular.  It was bad for both teams... and the only call I'll bitch about--- why? Because in bowl season these teams will play with crews that actually call those, and it will impact the game.  Hugely.  They get by with it all season long, and then play OOC with other crews, and can't figure out why they're being "picked" on... 

I recall a bama team not long ago (under saban) that was called for defensive holding in the third Saturday of October, and for the rest of the season they were not called again.  Not once.  THAT was impressive- disciplined, well coached, focused.  This team ain't that.  

[MikeDeTiger]

Some people think the Tide would win a rematch should the teams meet in the SECCG.  I'd still pick UT because Hookers tend to fare well in Atlanta.  That's my thinking, anyway.  

[Drew4UTk]

I'm thinking bama is imploding under its own weight.  I think Saban is losing or has lost the grip he's had since taking his first head coaching job.  He lacks the focus and the team lacks discipline all season- his hallmark was and is discipline... professionalism... it ain't apparent on this team.  At all.  They still have serious talent and skill, and some players are still bought in- but it takes ALL of them, and that ain't there. 

The next two weeks are crucial for not omly for this season but for their future.  I see them crumbling as easy as getting their act together.  50/50. 

It happened long before the UT game... its been there all season. 

Ole Miss may just clear the schedule.  The egg bowl is their biggest hurdle.  Them playing UT in Georgia would be more entertaining that watching UGA play them... you know, golf balls and mustard and all... but, alas, it's UGAs to have unless they trip.  If UT gets the UGA that played mizzou, UT beats them handily.  They won't,  though.  They'll get the real McCoy. 

Mizzou, UK, UGA are hurdles for UT.  They drop one and maybe two at a minimum.  They could easily drop all 3.  The thing about "arriving", that UT may not know anymore and apparently Bama has forgotten somehow, is holding that momentum becomes harder, not easier. 

[jgvol]

I'm thinking bama is imploding under its own weight.  I think Saban is losing or has lost the grip he's had since taking his first head coaching job.  He lacks the focus and the team lacks discipline all season- his hallmark was and is discipline... professionalism... it ain't apparent on this team.  At all.  They still have serious talent and skill, and some players are still bought in- but it takes ALL of them, and that ain't there. 

The next two weeks are crucial for not omly for this season but for their future.  I see them crumbling as easy as getting their act together.  50/50. 

It happened long before the UT game... its been there all season. 

Ole Miss may just clear the schedule.  The egg bowl is their biggest hurdle.  Them playing UT in Georgia would be more entertaining that watching UGA play them... you know, golf balls and mustard and all... but, alas, it's UGAs to have unless they trip.  If UT gets the UGA that played mizzou, UT beats them handily.  They won't,  though.  They'll get the real McCoy. 

Mizzou, UK, UGA are hurdles for UT.  They drop one and maybe two at a minimum.  They could easily drop all 3.  The thing about "arriving", that UT may not know anymore and apparently Bama has forgotten somehow, is holding that momentum becomes harder, not easier. 

Dropping one to Mizzou would be akin to the 2016 second half of the season collapse and losses to S. Carolina and Vandy, thus eliminating us from the Sugar Bowl and dumping us into Nashville for the Music City.  Ugh.

That would taint an otherwise magical season thus far.  I hope that doesn't happen.

[Cincydawg]

The UGA that played Mizzou was truly awful.  I figured that one was a loss until very late.  Once you pull out a W even like that one, a few weeks later it gets mostly forgotten, usually, with a couple 55-0s.  (Vandy however looks really bad.)

UGA plays at Lexington and I think UK has a pretty solid team when healthy.  They also play at Miss State.

[rolltidefan]

i'll somewhat agree bama is "imploding", but i'll temper that with "relative to where we've been last decade or so". discipline is a major issue, but so is scheme. and it's been longer than just 2022. 2021 was showing major signs as well. going back to 2017, bama only had 4 close games, and all were either away or in the playoffs. 2018 - 2. 2019 - 2. 2020 - 1. enter ridiculous coaching changes (6 of the 12), and then in 2021 you had 6 close games. and so far in 2022 - 3 (of 7). one of the things saban's been so good at is reloading his coaching staff. but he missed on this current staff. saban is too loyal to fire anyone, but he really needs to clean house.

having said all that, bama is still good enough to compete with and beat the best teams. even vs tenn and all the mishaps that we had, we were a decent fg away from either winning or at least forcing ot. woulda, coulda, shoulda. hate those.

[Drew4UTk]

UT had its own miscues... it wasn't like they were executing as they have in other games... why? Bama tripped them, that's why.. and they tripped bama. 

How do you trip a team?  The easiest is to take them out of their rhythm and comfort zone.  It's easier to do that with an undisciplined team.

UT firing somewhere between 85 and 90% was enough to beat a bama team at 80-85%.. thats good enough for me as it is...

Anytime a game comes down to the last play or are in a contest the zebras actually can impact outcome- neither of those teams are substantially better than the other that game...

We've seen UGA gut punched against an inferior opponent and saw what happened... we've seen bama backed into a corner three times... we've not seen UM or tOSU challenged because they have a bitches schedule... they will literally cancel each other- one adding to the others legend when neither have done anything to earn it except tickle the fancy of some sports writers... clemson really hasn't been challenged.  Not really so, anyway.  TCU is out there and so is UCLA- tcu having much more to show than ucla...

Tell a tOSU fan that UT should be #1 and watch them spin into a tizzy... as if it matters at all this time of year.  It does to them, and because it's ALL about appearances to "get them there"... perception is reality and other manipulational tactics offered like chants/incantations to minor gods that determine playoff placement...  meanwhile... UT has more to claim than anyone else including Georgia... yet, most UT fans i speak to know better... theyre not there yet, but they're OH so close... closer than they should be...

It has a feel to me like that old cartoon where the sheep dogs clock on.. UT passing Bama and "mornin' sam"... one climbing and the other falling.  I dont for a second believe that, mind you...

Bama has been based on "discipline,  professionalism, and do your job"... st nick removed the very element that got UT that win and has them 6-0... thats the charge of doing something you didn't think you could and being out of your mind about it... and playing that much harder because of it... the danger with st.nick is he loses that as a tool to a large degree in getting his team "up"... the bad thing for UT is that kind of charge is almost impossible to sustain, as it's fleeting at its very core. 

But don't tell them that. 

"Fake it till you make it". 

[Cincydawg]

The ball bounces oddly in contested games ...

[Drew4UTk]

I watched the game again last night... first time since Saturday. 

Saturday, I had a sizable amount of booze in me, and about 40 guests... though I watched, I couldn't study.  I got a good look last night with the clicker in hand rewinding and slowing down.

I'm here to say... I'm full of shit.  Bama isn't hurting, and though they played undisciplined they're still bama... Tennessee just plain beat them.  A big part of that was the 12th man- the crowd.. the crowd was unrelenting and caused all kinds of miscues.  Not just false starts, either.  

Tennessee had a great game plan and took bama out of their comfort zone after the second TD.  

There isn't a thing wrong with bama as I was to figure- they just need to tighten up a little and clear the season, thr CCG, and they're back in the playoff.  If UT makes it to the CCG amd if they face bama, they'd need to haul at least 100k fans with them to do it again- or find another way to take bama out of stride to do that again. 

[Cincydawg]

I think a team gives up 52 to anybody has issues, no matter what.  They aren't "elite".  I don't see Ohio State doing that.

[Drew4UTk]

UT has done that to everyone except Pitt, the first road game of the season.. the 52 is more charge to UTs impact on O than bama's failure- though its a bit of both.  UF gave UT hell, bit that's just what happens in that game... their success on 4th downs was the wildcard UT couldn't solve.  

Tennessee will score on anyone- Georgia and tOSU, and even UM.. but will they score enough is the only question.... 

At this point and if played tomorrow and both teams at top of their game I'd see a 45-56 to 31-41 affair for UT and UGA, UGA winning... for tOSU, I just don't know.  There is no basis in tOSU to measure.  Same with UM except I'm all but certain UT would run away with it with them across the field.  

That stadium got to bama.  From the very beginning.  That game elsewhere has bama by 10. 

UT is gonna meet up with a team that has an answer to their same look stacked receivers, and when they do UT is gonna look like what they are- a team playing above their station.  The thing about their offense is the more it rolls out the more evidence there is to unwind it, and better equipped defensive coordinators will solve it.