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I generally stay away from talking LSU football here because there are no other LSU fans and I doubt anyone cares about details, but since you occasionally dig into the program a bit, I'll loosen my lips here and say this is an underrated point that I only see a few in the base talk about. 

Tommy Moffit--no other way to put it--is a legend in the Strength & Conditioning business.  So many out there who do what he does learned from him, and he was the gold standard for literally decades.  Every S&C coach I've ever heard talk, if I'm able to listen to them long enough, they'll get around to mentioning him and the standard he brought to the field.  I can't remember if he was around for the DiNardo years, but I think so, and iirc Saban made a point of retaining him and gave him more leeway in the program.  When Saban returned to the SEC at Alabama, Moffit was the first guy he tried to add to his staff, though Moffit ultimately decided not to leave LSU.  He was there through all the Les Miles and the Ed O. years.  Saban ultimately got Scott Cochran for his S&C coach at Alabama, who made a name for himself in his own right, but he learned directly from Moffit at LSU, and again, Cochran is quick to say who taught him everything he knew about making Alabama tough, mean, SOBs.  Indeed, Cochran coming from under Moffit is a key reason why Saban wanted him. 

Some fans note that LSU appeared to be getting soft in Ed O's last couple of years and there was lots of talk about how Moffit was past his prime, his methods were outdated, etc.  I don't know anything about that, but I know that for years, win or lose (usually win), LSU was tough as nails and if you were one of the teams that occasionally beat them, you damn sure didn't bully them, and you paid with blood for every inch you gained.  The reason the 2008 Florida game or the 2015 Arkansas games are so memorable in fans' minds as supposed strikes against Les Miles is precisely because they were so rare.  They were the exceptions that proved the rule.  You did not manhandle, out-physical, or punch LSU in the mouth (without nuclear retribution).  I also know the rules have changed a lot in the past decade and that the brand of defense in particular which LSU played between, notably, 2003 and 2012, is more or less against the rules today.  However, the way linemen play hasn't really changed much, and the difference between now and a few years ago is obvious.  Our lines are just.....soft.  It could be that Moffit was slipping, but it's inarguable that the players have slid much further into Charmin softness without him.  That was Brian Kelly's decision.  He let Moffit go, day 1. 

Meanwhile, A&M picked him up, much to the dismay of literally dozens of former Tigers, who lamented that the best coach they ever had was going to be in College Station now.  Maybe it's reading too much into it, but A&M certainly showed last night the same brand of play LSU used to have.  "You may be talented, and you may swing hard, but we will swing harder and we will swing last, and in the end, you will be our bitch." 

All that said, the vaginal softness of our players is not the only thing that hampers the team, or why A&M won.  In all the NIL $ spent this year on building a mercenary roster, they forgot to buy an an offensive line, and.....here we are.  Also, Blake Baker should have criminal charges filed on him for having this defensive roster at his disposal and running the schemes he chooses to run against dual-threat QBs.  The OC is in over his head and has no business holding such a position at a place like LSU.  Lastly, Brian Kelly himself is just not that great of a coach, in more areas than I have time to write about.  He's got a high-ish floor, and LSU will probably never worry about 6-6 seasons under him.  But he's a 9-3 max coach in the SEC, and I think even his 9-3 days are numbered.  I asked on this board once why the narrative on him was that he'd have better talent in BR than at ND, because I'd looked at the recruiting rankings for about a decade, and ND had recruited pretty equally to LSU.  Various responses, ranging from "Don't trust rankings" to "Rankings are just averages which don't adequately describe roster nuances" (fair enough) to "Don't worry about it, he's a good coach and anybody halfway decent can win at LSU."  I think my early suspicions have been more than confirmed by now.  Kelly had talent at Notre Dame, and they got their butts whipped every time they ran into a competent, ranked team.  He is who I thought he was.  I don't necessarily advocate for firing him, because I have no control over that and I'm not even convinced there's anybody better available, or that LSU can have the kind of success we want in this new era.  I'm just noting Kelly's ceiling is mediocre, and that's where we max out now.

Also I've heard that same line of BS about the S&C coach for 30 years now.  Same thing at OU, guys name was Jerry something or other.  We hired him, I think after he left OU.  I think he went back now.  Fran fired RC's long-time S&C coach, the whole time we were getting our asses kicked people were making comments about the S&C.  I'm sure there is some kernel of truth in it, but c'mon you can't blame a coach for wanting to bring in his own guys. 

I just want to point out a few things about this Aggie team as major weaknesses:

Rushing by committee.  Leveon Moss, who was a pretty good back last season but got injured late in the year is injured again.  We do a running back by committee now, which I hate.  Ruben Owens seems to be a decent back but not as good as Moss.  Also, apparently Moss has some kind of anxiety issues or something even when he's healthy because he's frequently seen puking on the sidelines and it's been reported it's basically from nerves.  Not sure how true that is, but generally accepted.  

Reminds me of Jamie Foxx in Any Given Sunday.  

Reed is a 50% passer.  +/- a few points, but generally speaking he completes half his throws.  Last night he was 12/21, or 57% which is pretty good for him.  He made some spectacular throws, but the two INT's were not the receivers fault, they cost us big time.  

I'd say they did not, in fact, cost A&M big time.  

The blocked punt.  2nd time this season.  Cost us big in the ND game, both times were unblocked.  Something is awry in special teams.  

They made up for it by dominating literally every other special teams play.  A&M BY FAR won the special teams battle.  

Defense plays well 80% of the time, but when they don't it costs us big time.  

So you expect them to allow 0 points, or what?  No first downs?  You don't realize how talented this LSU offense is, outside of its inexperienced and cradle-young offensive line.  There's no point moaning about LSU popping some plays.  Every skill player out there is headed to the NFL.  And LSU still couldn't convert a 3rd down.  Your defense was fine.  

Of course a coach can bring in his own guys.  Nobody ever said otherwise.  You utterly miss the point that Tommy Moffit is not your average S&C guy.  There's a reason Saban, Miles, and O all retained him and had such great success with him.  He's better than literally every other example you could try to give, save maybe Cochran, and that's debatable since he had better overall talent to refine than LSU.  And again, Cochran learned everything he knows from Moffit.  There's a reason Saban tried so hard to get Moffit to leave LSU and join him at Alabama.  And if you, of all people, can't see the difference between A&M now, and softer versions they've put on the field prior to Moffit, I don't know what to tell you.  We wouldn't be winning all our games if he were still here, because he can't call plays or block edge rushers, but this team wouldn't be so soft. 

I was thinking the same thing.  If you can't acknowledge that some guys are at the top of their field and you think each and every S&C coach is interchangeable, or be happy that you have the guy widely regarded by his peers as the goat, there's really nothing more to say. 

Go back to griping about blowout wins and logging your first victory in Baton Rouge in over 30 years. 

Just don't try to tell me what's happened to the toughness of our team since he was let go and that it's unrelated.  You can shut right the hell up about that.