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Gigem

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #630 on: July 21, 2025, 03:13:25 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 21, 2025, 03:05:22 PM
I mean, they were good enough to make the CFP last year, plenty of talent.

LSU didn't make the playoff.  Florida and Ole Miss and OU didn't, either.
Not trying to bash 2024 Tennessee, but I think they were the recipient of a lucky schedule.  They did lose to a not great Arkansas 19-14 and whipped by UGa 31-17.  They then got manhandled by Ohio State (like everybody else not named Michigan) in the CFP.  I'm not impressed with them just yet.  

FYI their schedule in '25 is similarly nice.  They get UGa at home (not sure it matters), and avoid USCe and Ole Miss and Texas.  I count Bama as a wild card, who the heck knows with them.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #631 on: July 21, 2025, 03:24:04 PM »
Ah so today we're going with the entire SEC is NOT a rolling ball of acid-tipped flaming butcher knives and even the lowliest SEC team is better than the absolute best from any other conference?

I'm new here, y'all gotta clue me in where we're switching modes from SECSECSEC to "lucky break in scheduling."

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #632 on: July 21, 2025, 03:25:16 PM »
OR is this a case where most of Tennessee's and Texas' 2024 SEC opponents "just didn't want to be there" 'cause that's one I'm not sure when to use, either...

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #633 on: July 21, 2025, 03:28:35 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 21, 2025, 03:24:04 PM
Ah so today we're going with the entire SEC is NOT a rolling ball of acid-tipped flaming butcher knives and even the lowliest SEC team is better than the absolute best from any other conference?

I'm new here, y'all gotta clue me in where we're switching modes from SECSECSEC to "lucky break in scheduling."

;)

You jest, but back when this line was spouted more commonly around these parts, it was also more true.  The SEC is not what it was when Meyer, Saban, Miles and others were in it.  

That said, Texas and OU (Sooner or later...SWIDT??) are rock-solid additions, and help offset (OU in the longterm, I assume) some of the programs like LSU who aren't what they used to be.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #634 on: July 21, 2025, 03:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on July 21, 2025, 03:08:45 PM
I just looked at Texas' schedule.  In my opinion, based on SEC projections before the season starts they have the easiest path to the title game out of all the teams.  They avoid up-and-comers Ole Miss and USCe.  They play @ Florida when Florida is predicted to not have a great year.  The toughest game by far is @UGA, and they can lose this one game and still be in the SECCCG.  The one wild card in my opinion is OU at the RRR.  I personally think OU will be looking for a new coach at seasons end, I expect Texas to win this one but anything can happen.  I would love it if A&M could come into Austin and spoil their chance at the CCG  like we did in 2006 but I don't see that happening. 

I think there's a lot to like about Florida this year.  Good QB and fierce lines can get you a long way.  

They probably can't tag Texas, even at home, but I predict they'll give the Longhorns a fight.  

For teams not named UGA, Texas, and Bama, I guess Florida would be my dark horse.  Though I don't know much about A&M this coming year.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #635 on: July 21, 2025, 03:33:41 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 21, 2025, 03:24:04 PM
Ah so today we're going with the entire SEC is NOT a rolling ball of acid-tipped flaming butcher knives and even the lowliest SEC team is better than the absolute best from any other conference?

I'm new here, y'all gotta clue me in where we're switching modes from SECSECSEC to "lucky break in scheduling."

;)
Not what I'm saying at all.  I just don't consider "making the CFP" to be the marker of a really great team, especially when you've already lost two games and one of those wasn't even close.  

You gave Tennessee as your choice for being a dark horse for '25, and said because they made the CFP in 24 as the reason.  Weak sauce.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #636 on: July 21, 2025, 03:37:52 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on July 21, 2025, 03:31:28 PM
I think there's a lot to like about Florida this year.  Good QB and fierce lines can get you a long way. 

They probably can't tag Texas, even at home, but I predict they'll give the Longhorns a fight. 

For teams not named UGA, Texas, and Bama, I guess Florida would be my dark horse.  Though I don't know much about A&M this coming year. 
Simply put, I base my prediction on Florida on the fact that Billy Napier has been there three full years and hasn't done much.  At a school like Florida, if a coach hasn't done much by year three, then chances are he never will.  Just my opinion.  I could be wrong.  
And I like Florida, a lot.  They're probably my 2nd favorite CFB team and I root for them when they're not playing A&M.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #637 on: July 21, 2025, 03:39:25 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on July 21, 2025, 03:33:41 PM
Not what I'm saying at all.  I just don't consider "making the CFP" to be the marker of a really great team, especially when you've already lost two games and one of those wasn't even close. 

You gave Tennessee as your choice for being a dark horse for '25, and said because they made the CFP in 24 as the reason.  Weak sauce. 
Eh, I didn't have to say anything at all.  To me making the CFP shows me they have plenty of talent and good enough coaching.  The other potential "dark horses" don't have as much as credibility as Tennessee does.  I never said they were a "really great team" those are your words, for whatever reason.  I was asked who-- other than Texas or Georgia-- might win the SEC as a dark horse, and I provided a response.

You can certainly disagree and I won't call your opinion "weak sauce" which is a pretty lame thing to say when someone is simply offering you their opinion that you asked for.

A less friendly guy than me, might suggest you fuck off with that noise.

But I'm the 1999 cnn/si Internet Nice Guy so I'll just say, your response was uncalled for.
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #638 on: July 21, 2025, 03:39:56 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on July 21, 2025, 03:37:52 PM
Simply put, I base my prediction on Florida on the fact that Billy Napier has been there three full years and hasn't done much.  At a school like Florida, if a coach hasn't done much by year three, then chances are he never will.  Just my opinion.  I could be wrong. 
And I like Florida, a lot.  They're probably my 2nd favorite CFB team and I root for them when they're not playing A&M. 

Ew, gross.

That said, they looked better and better down the stretch last year.  If they build on the momentum they had after everyone wrote them off and assumed Napier was toast, they could have a good year, I think.  
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #639 on: July 21, 2025, 03:42:09 PM »
Lagway's coming back from injuries that plagued him into spring ball. If he's not 100% and as good as or better than he was at his best last year, then I don't think Florida's gonna have enough to compete.
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #640 on: July 21, 2025, 03:45:53 PM »
This is what I think....

Kiffin will have Ole Miss playing at a very high level, but Ole Miss will lose at least two games no matter what.  It's not really Kiffin's fault, it's just that nobody can win at Ole Miss, not even St. Nick.  So they could beat anybody on the schedule and also lose to anybody on the schedule.  

Beamer seems to be a really good coach from a really good coaching family.  I think USCe will be very tough.  

Alabama is a huge question mark for me.  They were awesome last year and sucked at the same time.  

Auburn is back because of ....Hugh Freeze?  Not sure I follow this logic.  He hasn't proven anything at Auburn yet.  

Georgia will be very tough.  Nobody disputes that.  

Tennessee is too early to tell.  

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #641 on: July 21, 2025, 03:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on July 21, 2025, 03:33:41 PM
Not what I'm saying at all.  I just don't consider "making the CFP" to be the marker of a really great team, especially when you've already lost two games and one of those wasn't even close. 

You gave Tennessee as your choice for being a dark horse for '25, and said because they made the CFP in 24 as the reason.  Weak sauce. 

A 14 pt loss in Athens isn't as bad as your making it out to be.

By that measure -- UGA beating the Horns in Austin by 15 --- Texas must be a steaming pile of dung.  (which we all know isn't the case)
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #642 on: July 21, 2025, 03:52:48 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 21, 2025, 03:39:25 PM
Eh, I didn't have to say anything at all.  To me making the CFP shows me they have plenty of talent and good enough coaching.  The other potential "dark horses" don't have as much as credibility as Tennessee does.  I never said they were a "really great team" those are your words, for whatever reason.  I was asked who-- other than Texas or Georgia-- might win the SEC as a dark horse, and I provided a response.

You can certainly disagree and I won't call your opinion "weak sauce" which is a pretty lame thing to say when someone is simply offering you their opinion that you asked for.

A less friendly guy than me, might suggest you fuck off with that noise.

But I'm the 1999 cnn/si Internet Nice Guy so I'll just say, your response was uncalled for.
Welp, I thought we were having a discussion...about football....on a football fan board.   I thought arguing about all this non-sense is what we were really here for.  My bad.   :) 

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #643 on: July 21, 2025, 03:56:19 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on July 21, 2025, 03:52:48 PM
Welp, I thought we were having a discussion...about football....on a football fan board.  I thought arguing about all this non-sense is what we were really here for.  My bad.  :)


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