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MikeDeTiger

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #280 on: November 05, 2024, 10:34:29 AM »
At least you didn't lose your young-but-talented-backup-QB during a serious upset bid over UGA.

I hear Lagway's injury may not be that serious and hasn't yet been ruled out for the Texas game, and may be "probable" by the time LSU comes.  Any truth to that? 

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« Reply #281 on: November 05, 2024, 10:41:28 AM »
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42194182/texas-loses-lead-rusher-leveon-moss-leg-season

Ugh.  Lev’eon Moss, our top RB and IMO the most important player on the team is out for the rest of the season. I’m fairly confident that’s one of the reasons why we didn’t win Saturday night.

I know injuries happen in football, but it always seems that this kind of shit happens to us more than anybody else. Imagine if VY went out in the 9th game of the season in 2005. And yes, I’m well aware of Colt going down in the MNC, but at least Texas won the Big 12 that year. 

I remember it was cited often how OU did not lose a starter during their impressive 2000 season.

The Evil Capricious Football Gods have struck again.

We haven't lost our QB or anything like that (and really, it doesn't matter if we were to lose our "best" rb, whatever that might mean in our case), but since Kelly took over we've been thin at DL and for the third year in a row--all of Kelly's time here--we've lost the projected best DT either in the first game or prior to the season.  It's really odd how snakebit that unit is.  At a spot that's thin and not overly talented, we keep losing the one guy most believe are "SEC caliber." 

That said, some of the other DL this year have played better than expected.  Snagging coach  Bo Davis from Texas probably was a very good get.  They were expected to be "not great, Bob" after this year's top guy was injured, but they've been "not bad." 

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #282 on: November 05, 2024, 11:16:53 AM »
I hear Lagway's injury may not be that serious and hasn't yet been ruled out for the Texas game, and may be "probable" by the time LSU comes.  Any truth to that?
What I got from Napier's statement of the injury is "less significant than originally thought and there's a pathway to recovery and return" was that Lagway had an MRI on Sunday that didn't indicate a Grade 3 injury. Since there's no reason why he's medically out after the MRI, there's no reason to make a definitive statement on a soft tissue injury.
Obviously every soft tissue injury is different (as opposed to, say, a broken arm that has a relatively known healing time frame). Perhaps it really wasn't as bad as it looked - when the player cannot walk off the sideline. However, a hamstring is something that can absolutely be made worse by playing on it, especially his style of play. Unless keeping him out of the 2nd half was just an outrageous amount of precaution, it's not really realistic to think he'd be ready to play a week later.
I'm thinking the statement meant "he isn't lost for the year". I'm expecting Lagway to be listed as "doubtful" on tomorrow's injury report, and "out" on Friday's report.
I remember Adrian Peterson playing the RRS in 2005 on a destroyed ankle. He'd take the handoff and basically jog out of bounds on a slow diagonal since he had no ability to cut or accelerate.

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« Reply #283 on: November 06, 2024, 12:08:18 PM »
I'd be surprised if Lagway plays and if he does, I'd be surprised if he's very productive.

But I suppose ya never know.

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #284 on: November 06, 2024, 12:29:29 PM »
Those of us who have had a large muscle injury know it can seem OK when it isn't.

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« Reply #285 on: November 06, 2024, 12:53:32 PM »
The last information I saw was that it's a Grade 2 tear. That's partial tearing of the fibers. Now, these are spry, well conditioned athletes with top notch medical care designed to get them going again, but to you and me, that's a minimum 4 week recovery.
Again, there's no such thing as a "typical" soft tissue injury.
As Cincy said, that's a large muscle group. The movements it makes are explosive and sudden. If you feel pain, it's too late to stop. Until it heals fully, you're almost certain to make it worse by playing.

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« Reply #286 on: November 09, 2024, 09:37:52 PM »
UGa goes down. Didn’t see that coming. 

Miami goes down. 

Bama winning. 

UTex wins handily 

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #287 on: November 10, 2024, 12:47:29 PM »
When a team struggles, but wins, it's still a sign they probably aren't that good, even if they are 10-0.  UGA has struggled a lot this season, and lost 2 of the 3 real teams they faced.  I don't know how they beat Texas, that probably happens one time in five.  The fans are blaming everyone, of course, I think the talent has some holes in key positions more than anything.  Folks like Bowers covered a lot of other weaknesses.

Well, there really weren't "folks like Bowers".

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« Reply #288 on: November 10, 2024, 01:02:29 PM »
Texas really ebbs and flows with Ewers.  When he's doing everything wrong, even Vandy can make them sweat (albeit the best Vandy team in some time).  When he's doing what he's capable of doing, they're probably the best team in the country.  He was bad-Ewers against UGA, and if he'd already snapped out of his post-injury fog, the Longhorns likely win vs. the Dawgs, imo. 

I think we're headed for a Texas/Alabama SECCG.  We'll see.

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« Reply #289 on: November 10, 2024, 01:11:58 PM »
Florida has a great shot to break the skid against LSU next weekend.  This LSU team is getting worse throughout the season, and Florida, although playing an entire second string offense, has gotten better.  I think they've each sailed far enough in their respective directions that the ships may be ready to pass in the night, and a "bad" Florida team hands a "better" LSU team their third L in a row. 

I wish Herbstreit, fans, and observers would hush about LSU's lack of talent.  That's part of the problem, but it's not the biggest one.  This is a very poorly coached team, who exhibit the same mistakes week to week, year to year.  Most of their problem is guys don't know where they're supposed to be, or when, or what to do when they get there.  It's abysmal.  Kelly is not worth his hype, whether he was overrated all along or is just a poor fit in BR, I don't know.  But I'll reiterate, he'll be the first coach in the last 4 not to win a NC, or even threaten for one. 

As far as talent, our fans like to talk about how decimated Orgeron left the team.  Okay.....fair enough, but that was three years ago.  This is year 3, in an era where you can instantly fill up your roster by going shopping at Portal-Mart.  Which Kelly did, in year 1.  We didn't lack scholarship players two years ago, and we don't lack them now.  It's possible the guy just can't recruit here either.

Nothing to do but hunker down and be glad I care about this sport a lot less than I used to.  Methinks the Suck of Mediocrity has moved from Austin and is going to set up camp in BR for the next several years.  

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« Reply #290 on: November 10, 2024, 05:52:24 PM »
My own view. A&M is just not that good this year. We got lucky, with a bad Florida team, average LSU, and typical MSU and Arkansas teams. We were not impressive against any of these teams. LSU was well on their way to outplaying us, until we figured out that they couldn’t figure out a running QB. An avg Bama team mauled them in BR. We lost badly to a pedestrian USC.  

Now we close the season with a struggling Auburn, and Texas at home. I think the outcome of the Texas game will determine who plays in the SEC CG.  I don’t think we have any shot at winning, even at Kyle. 

If by some miracle we beat Texas, we’re going to get smoked in the SEC CG. 

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #291 on: November 10, 2024, 05:54:41 PM »
It will be really laughable if a 2 loss Bama team goes on to win either the CCG or the NC. 

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« Reply #292 on: November 10, 2024, 07:01:23 PM »
In that case all this expanded playoff nonsense would be much ado about nothing.
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #293 on: November 11, 2024, 07:49:46 AM »
It will be really laughable if a 2 loss Bama team goes on to win either the CCG or the NC.
It's a matter of time until that happesns of course. if not Bama, somebody.  

 

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