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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #182 on: October 20, 2024, 03:24:14 PM »
Texas now has a tough road game against a ranked team Saturday, a team that has owned them historically.

Venables is toast.

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« Reply #183 on: October 20, 2024, 04:52:03 PM »
  • I can't believe Alabama is so Jekyll and Hyde.  Sometimes they look amazing and yet the majority of the time they look like they don't know what they're doing. 

So nice to watch a Bama team that's like everybody else. Having weeks where penalties get out of hand - 15 yesterday. Weeks where the offense goes cold for long stretches - no scores on their last 4 possessions yesterday. Weeks where the Defense can't get off the field down the stretch. Press conferences where the coach doesn't have answers. And an entire fanbase feeling like its the end of the world because they've lost two games before Halloween.

So am I the only one who thinks maybe Brent Venables is toast after this season?

I absolutely believe Venables gets one more season after this. After going 11-3 last season, Oklahoma extended Venables until 2030. Meaning Venables is too costly to fire this soon. Yes, going 11-3 is good, but Oklahoma went 11-3 with just about the easiest schedule they've had in years. Even at the time a contract extension for that long was unwarranted. Going into this season, 8-4 was a more realistic expectation. Now it appears that can be adjusted down to 6-6 given the rest of the schedule and corps of an offense.

While I don't believe Venables will be fired, OC Seth Littrell and OL Coach Bill Bedenbaugh likely will be. The only way to defend them is to use the uncommonly high amount of injuries to the QB, OL, and WRs as an excuse.

On the defensive side of the ball, Venables has them playing better every year; and recruiting is going well.

edit: Looks like Littrell is already on his way out:


https://twitter.com/SoonerScoop/status/1848130419838816313
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #184 on: October 20, 2024, 06:48:42 PM »
So am I the only one who thinks maybe Brent Venables is toast after this season?  Maybe even before the season is over? 

I wonder if Bob Stoops wants to come back to OU to be the HC again?  It seems like maybe his kids are older and out on their own somewhat, and he is still coaching football in the XFL.  Kinda like Wild Bill did at KSU where he stepped away for a few years and then came back.  He's only 65.
I think Brent would be gone at the end of the season except for his buyout. He got a 6-year extension after last season.
I don't think Bob Stoops wants to coach CFB again. All the reasons that made him want to leave are bigger/worse now.
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« Reply #185 on: October 20, 2024, 06:56:22 PM »
. . .

I absolutely believe Venables gets one more season after this. After going 11-3 last season, Oklahoma extended Venables until 2030. Meaning Venables is too costly to fire this soon. Yes, going 11-3 is good, but Oklahoma went 11-3 with just about the easiest schedule they've had in years. Even at the time a contract extension for that long was unwarranted. Going into this season, 8-4 was a more realistic expectation. Now it appears that can be adjusted down to 6-6 given the rest of the schedule and corps of an offense.

While I don't believe Venables will be fired, OC Seth Littrell and OL Coach Bill Bedenbaugh likely will be. The only way to defend them is to use the uncommonly high amount of injuries to the QB, OL, and WRs as an excuse.

On the defensive side of the ball, Venables has them playing better every year; and recruiting is going well.

edit: Looks like Littrell is already on his way out:


https://twitter.com/SoonerScoop/status/1848130419838816313
OU was 10-3 last year, counting the loss to Arizona in the Alamo Bowl. The Sooners probably should have lost to Texas but they should have beaten Kansas and Oklahoma State. It was much better than the 6-7 debut season under Venables, but disappointing nevertheless. The contract extension was too generous. Stated reason was to help recruiting.
8-4 was realistic this year. Now 5-7 seems likely. I don't see any conference wins in the games remaining. Yesterday's home game with South Carolina was presumed to be the easiest remaining conference game.
Recruiting seems to be going well in terms of star-rankings. Development, not so much.
Thanks for the news on Littrell. I don't think he'll be the only one fired.
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« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2024, 09:51:38 PM »
Big news for me. We’re going to try and go to the lsu game this weekend. I haven’t been to a game of consequence since I was a student. And I haven’t been to a night game at Kyle in many, many years either. Now I just have to price tickets and figure out who all is going. 

Thinking back, the last important game I went to would’ve been OU in 2000.  Great game, we were winning until very late, ou went on to win the MNC. 

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« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2024, 10:08:09 PM »
Big news for me. We’re going to try and go to the lsu game this weekend. I haven’t been to a game of consequence since I was a student. And I haven’t been to a night game at Kyle in many, many years either. Now I just have to price tickets and figure out who all is going.

Thinking back, the last important game I went to would’ve been OU in 2000.  Great game, we were winning until very late, ou went on to win the MNC.
That's great, have fun, it should be a helluva game!

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« Reply #188 on: October 21, 2024, 12:00:16 AM »
I’m seriously trying to remember the last time I went to a night game, and I’m coming up short. I don’t actually remember many night games when I was in school, ‘96-2000.  OU 98 was at night during a rainstorm. oSu ‘97 was at night on Halloween ( big comeback win ). I don’t recall if any were at night in 99 or 2000. 

Now I get to find out how much tickets cost. 

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« Reply #189 on: October 21, 2024, 12:13:56 AM »
Good luck with that! :)


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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #190 on: October 21, 2024, 06:06:40 AM »
A&M is a 2.5 point favorite.  

Missouri goes to Tloosa as a nearly two TD dog.  Huh.

Texas at Vandy -17.5.

All six are ranked teams.

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« Reply #191 on: October 21, 2024, 09:07:43 AM »
I’m seriously trying to remember the last time I went to a night game, and I’m coming up short. I don’t actually remember many night games when I was in school, ‘96-2000.  OU 98 was at night during a rainstorm. oSu ‘97 was at night on Halloween ( big comeback win ). I don’t recall if any were at night in 99 or 2000.

Now I get to find out how much tickets cost.

I went to the Texas/UGA game this weekend with my daughter. We have really crummy seats in the North/Northeast section of the upper deck. Tix in this section usually get scalped to the opposing team's fans.
All that said, this might have been the biggest game I've seen Texas play in person. Texas has played, and won, some important games, but usually they were of the "Texas needs this to continue their struggle to return to relevancy" variety. This was the first game I've seen where Texas was a power, and they were playing a power.

Too bad the actual game itself didn't turn out better! =)

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #192 on: October 21, 2024, 09:10:13 AM »
Too bad the actual game itself didn't turn out better! =)
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« Reply #193 on: October 21, 2024, 10:26:07 AM »
You could have easily had one.
My big question: Did someone call that brain-dead kickoff to start the 2nd half? Did the kicker decide on his own? Was it just a mis-hit?
That was an all-time moronic thing to do. Texas couldn't move the ball against the Dawg defense no matter what. Get the ball deep and wait for the punt or TO. Instead, with a short field at home, Texas scores and makes the 2nd half competitive. When the air is out of the building, don't help bring it back.

Now Texas fans showed up and represented in the stadium. Where my seats are is prime real estate for resellers. That's to say I was seated in the middle of several rows of UGA fans. The ones right behind me said they got their tickets last December, flew from Gainesville, FL to San Antonio on Tuesday, and would fly out on Sunday. They were old(er), and not at all intimidated about giving full throat to their support. Really, the ladies were expert defensive analysts and impressed me.

The 40-something Chads in several rows in front of me were obviously misled by the repeated canard that Texas fans are enraged by "Horns Down". He kept drunkenly turning around to see if he could catch my eye. Eventually my daughter helped take a photo for him with his group, since his attempts were about to lead to someone going over the rail. Also, if "UT-A" means something amongst the SEC cognizati, please put out a pamphlet or something. There's actually a University of Texas Arlington campus, so it's a bit like chanting "UTEP" or "UTSA". Not sure what the idea was there.

Overall, I was among real football fans for the night. The inability of the Longhorns to get Santana's keyboardist to be mic'ed in the FOH was symptomatic of the proceedings!

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« Reply #194 on: October 21, 2024, 10:40:35 AM »
You could have easily had one.
My big question: Did someone call that brain-dead kickoff to start the 2nd half? Did the kicker decide on his own? Was it just a mis-hit?
That was an all-time moronic thing to do. Texas couldn't move the ball against the Dawg defense no matter what. Get the ball deep and wait for the punt or TO. Instead, with a short field at home, Texas scores and makes the 2nd half competitive. When the air is out of the building, don't help bring it back.

Now Texas fans showed up and represented in the stadium. Where my seats are is prime real estate for resellers. That's to say I was seated in the middle of several rows of UGA fans. The ones right behind me said they got their tickets last December, flew from Gainesville, FL to San Antonio on Tuesday, and would fly out on Sunday. They were old(er), and not at all intimidated about giving full throat to their support. Really, the ladies were expert defensive analysts and impressed me.

The 40-something Chads in several rows in front of me were obviously misled by the repeated canard that Texas fans are enraged by "Horns Down". He kept drunkenly turning around to see if he could catch my eye. Eventually my daughter helped take a photo for him with his group, since his attempts were about to lead to someone going over the rail. Also, if "UT-A" means something amongst the SEC cognizati, please put out a pamphlet or something. There's actually a University of Texas Arlington campus, so it's a bit like chanting "UTEP" or "UTSA". Not sure what the idea was there.

Overall, I was among real football fans for the night. The inability of the Longhorns to get Santana's keyboardist to be mic'ed in the FOH was symptomatic of the proceedings!

Yeah I did a whirlwind trip from the racetrack to the stadium for the game, and then back to the racetrack afterward.  Game atmosphere was really good for the most part.  Georgia's dominance in the first half put a damper on it, but the Texas resurgence in the 2nd half brough most of it back.  I wasn't really near any Georgia fans so can't comment on their knowledge of the game.

I agree, that weird squib kick (failed onsides kick??) didn't help Georgia at all.  But the Texas offense finally put together a string of nice plays, getting the ball out much quicker, and I'm not so sure the Horns wouldn't have scored anyway.  For all of the challenges, the game became a one score affair at 23-15 and a Texas comeback wasn't impossible.  But Georgia did a really nice job of regrouping and weathering the storm, and then closing it out.
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« Reply #195 on: October 21, 2024, 12:19:21 PM »
I just had the epiphany that the Georgia was likely chanting "U-G-A" instead. That makes a ton more sense.
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