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Ha!  A fine SECSECSEC response.

But those USC teams were really good.  ESPN told me that the 2005 Trojans were the greatest college football team of all time!

They said the same thing about 2003 Oklahoma.  

I often wonder how that 2012 Texas A&M Team would have fared in a 4-team playoff.  We already beat Bama at their house, only loss was a very close one to LSU and a close one to 11-win Florida in the very first game of Sumlin's and Manziels tenure.  

Top 5 teams that year were Bama, Oregon, Ohio St, Notre Dame, and Georgia tied with A&M (#5).  I like our odds.  

I just realized that Ohio State was also undefeated, Wow.  Talk about old school.  

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Rhett's math ain't mathin'.

There's been 8.  Guess he forgot the Horns and Sooners are now SEC.

Is he talking about the SEC conference championship? If so, then neither Texas nor OU have won it.  Yet.

I'd be curious how many ACC teams have won the conference championship over the same period.  And B1G.

Not curious enough to look it up, of course.

I had to make sure.  Only half our league members have won Natty's.  Oh no!

I idly wonder how 1995 nebraska would fare against an elite modern team.  I'm guessing the lines today are 50 pounds heavier, and maybe slower.

The USC-Texas game remains the best football game I've ever watched.

Definitely the best NC game.

For a neutral observer anyway.  If I'm a Florida fan, I probably like the beatdown of Ohio State, and the same goes for a fan of any winning team that won big.  But if your team isn't playing, it's a lot more fun to get a close one, and none was closer than Texas/SC, ergo, an all-time neutral great.  

Depending on your bent, not all close games may be created equal.  LSU/OU was a defensive slugfest, and for people who don't mind that, I assume that was a better watch than a lopsided game.  But if those kind of games bore you, then maybe you prefer a higher-scoring, close affair like FSU/AU, or even a lopsided game, to the low-scoring game even if it's a close one.  

I don't mind high or low scoring affairs, as long as they don't come about because of inability on the other side of the ball.  Pretending I weren't an LSU fan for a moment, as a neutral observer I don't mind the LSU/OU game because both of those offenses steamrolled teams approximately however much they wanted to, but the defenses were just that good.  And I don't mind higher scoring affairs so long as they don't come about because the defenses were just bad.  

Thus, Texas/SC is the best NC game for a neutral observer, because A) it was close, B) both offenses routinely stuck 40+ on their opponents, C) both defenses were at least highly competent (I'd say elite, in Texas' case).  

People criticize the 2005 SC defense, and I get that to some degree.  But I think they were quite a bit better than their perception.  Mainly, I think it's that they weren't as good as 2004, or what the next group rounded into by the end of 2006 (and that same group's 2007 and 2008 seasons, especially).  But those other defenses were stellar, and 2005 shouldn't be thought of as poor simply because they weren't as good as the units that preceded and succeeded them.  

I'll say this, if Jayden Daniels had 2005 USC's defense, then 2023 LSU would have been runaway national champions and nobody would've even gotten close.  

They probably would've been top 15 if we'd had advanced stats like FEI, SP+, F+ back then.  Texas scored 38 on that unit. 

I saw Matt Mitchell (SEC Roll Call) on a YouTube clip with Paul Finebaum.  I knew he's from Alabama, and I guess I assumed he was an Alabama fan.  He said he grew up in a split household, mother was an Auburn fan, dad was a Bama fan, so he did the only neutral thing he could and found a different team to root for. 

He said he's a Florida fan.  I did not see that one coming.  And I have to say, he hides it well in his videos. 

Yeah I've always liked that I could never really tell who he actually roots for.  I, too, would not have guessed Florida.