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Topic: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing

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OrangeAfroMan

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Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« on: December 19, 2025, 05:50:21 AM »
I'm just going to put this here, where nobody asked me to. 
We can't go back in time on alignment and all that. 
Here's my going forward to go back idea, all laid out.

We get 3 big 20-team conferences that comprise the current P4.  So a P3.  A P3 that is separated from the G5-types, who will have their own national championship.  No lawsuits.

Why?

So we can get back to everyone playing everyone else in their division/conference.  For this idea, it's best to view each division I list as a conference, but under the larger umbrella of the actual conference.

So what's it look like?
Well, we'll start with the SEC.  We're at 16 teams now, and since we can't go back and contract any of them, we'll have to add.  To get to 20, we'll poach the ACC/XII pair, just as the Big Ten will.

But the divisions will be founding members in one and all the newbies in the other.
Original Recipe:  UF, UGA, UTk, Vandy, UK, OM, MSU, AU, Bama, LSU
Johnny-Come-Lately:  Arky, USCe, A&M, Mizzou, Texas, OU + Virginia, VA Tech, UNC, NCST

We added 4 that expand the contiguous footprint (as if that matters anymore).  Brings in academics and rivalries. 

Big Ten:
Originals:  UM, MSU, OSU, IU, PUR, ILL, NW, Minn, Wis, IOWA
Newbies:  PSU, Rut, MD, Neb, USC, UCLA, Oregon, UW + Arizona, ASU

Expands the western position, both are AAU members and rivals

The third conference of 20 is a mashup of the ACC and XII.  And a little surprise:
East:  Miami, FSU, Clemson, GT, Pitt, UL, Duke, Syr, WV, ND
West:  Utah, BYU, TT, KU, KSU, CU, Cal, Stan, SMU, TCU

ND joins a conference, because they have to.  They will play every team in their division.  Period.
We've got some plus academic schools, and yes, the Big Atlantic 20 West division is the weakest in the sport, but out of six divisions, one is going to be the weakest.  Shrug.

Postseason:
each division winner is into the 8-team playoff.  Conf championship games are for seeding and hosting a 1st round game.  6 teams, 3 winners.
3 winners host a playoff game.  3 losers OR one of the 2 at-large teams will host a game as well.
2 at-large teams get in, probably based on whoever ESPN wants.  Or a committee.  Or a computer poll.  Or draw straws.  Whatever.  The point is everyone is on equal footing here and will have earned it.  And no first-round rematches.  That's just stupid.

1st round is on campuses (4 games), with the semis and NCG rotating between the old guard:  Sugar, Orange, Rose.

That leaves a lot of really good teams outside the playoff.
There will be 8 and only 8 "other" bowls.  Less is more.  Instead of everyone having a bowl, they just tie-in with an existing one and get on their board and pretend to be a big-wig with their monies brought in. 

Cotton, Fiesta, Holiday, Peach, Citrus, Sun, Gator, Liberty - basically the ones with history and/or big ones.  The Fiesta and Peach sort of bought their way in over 30+ years.  The Sun, Gator, Liberty, and Holiday are long-standing and we're going to respect that.

Winning your division matters most.  And you get to play everyone you're competing with there.
Winning your conference matters with hosting a playoff game, especially with no byes.
No one is punished for losing their CCG.
There are still 2 at-large bids for elite teams who maybe lost a tie-breaker or something.

All of this is possible by moving forward to go back to how it was.  Sort of.  Get the conferences so big, that the divisions become the old conferences.

This year:
Big Ten CG:  Indiana vs Oregon
SEC CG:  Georgia vs Texas A&M
BA20 CG:  Notre Dame vs Texas Tech

At-large:  Ohio St and Ole Miss

If the higher-ranked teams win the CGs:
Ole Miss @ Ohio State
Texas A&M @ Indiana
Oregon @ Notre Dame
Texas Tech @ Georgia

Something like that. If a team misses the playoff because they didn't win their division in which they played everyone else AND the AI super-computer committee of the roundtable didn't pick them, then tough shit.

Poke some holes in it.  Ask questions.  Where do I sign up to be the czar of college football?!?!
« Last Edit: December 19, 2025, 05:56:21 AM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2025, 08:35:19 AM »
Why do you keep trying to force the OG SEC onto this model ?  The OG can’t have their cake and eat it too. It needs to be somewhat regional. You can’t split one division by hundreds (maybe 1,000 miles ) E-W and then leave the other division continous. 


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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2025, 08:56:13 AM »
I strikes me often how good we had it with the OG Big 12, SEC, the PAC, and 11 member  Big 10. 

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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2025, 10:42:42 AM »
Why do you keep trying to force the OG SEC onto this model ?  The OG can’t have their cake and eat it too. It needs to be somewhat regional. You can’t split one division by hundreds (maybe 1,000 miles ) E-W and then leave the other division continous.



B1G says hold my beer.  Hold the ACC, and Big 12's beers too.  Hope you have 3 hands.

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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2025, 11:37:40 AM »
{stuff}

Infinitely better than what we have now.  

Show me where to sign, let's get 1000 sigs, and email it to Congress.

Make it so.

Now, fix NIL/xfer portal.  

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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2025, 10:05:02 PM »
I strikes me often how good we had it with the OG Big 12, SEC, the PAC, and 11 member  Big 10.
10 member Big Ten is much better.  Penn State was always supposed to be with the eastern independents.

Of course that's before we found out that Penn State was no better than Baylor in supporting a digusting culture such as rape of children and whatnot.

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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2025, 10:53:11 PM »
Penn State, ND, and Miami could have been the cornerstones of a legit Big East.  I'd add FSU, but I don't think the ACC survives long-term without their addition.

ACC + FSU
Big East:  Penn St, ND, Miami, Syracuse, VA Tech, WV, Temple?, BC, Pitt....that's 9, just like the ACC w/ FSU.

But we know it all started with the SWC sort of falling off a cliff with first the blatant cheating, then the SMU death penalty, leading to a largely noncompetitive conference behind A&M.  The SEC expands, poaching Arkansas, the Big Ten expands, and so on.

But if the SWC got their shit together and a certain few made a legit Big East.....we'd have had parity and balance.

Even if we still progressed to a playoff, you'd have an intact PAC-8/10/12, giving us 7 conferences on equal footing (PAC, SWC, Big 8, Big 10, ACC, Big East, SEC) which probably have yielded an 8-team playoff with 7 conf champs and 1 at-large.

That might have been great.
But since we can't go backwards, my plan sort of gets us back to that as much as possible, under the format of larger conferences.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2025, 10:59:51 PM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2025, 06:33:46 AM »
B1G says hold my beer.  Hold the ACC, and Big 12's beers too.  Hope you have 3 hands.
All good points, but AFAIK, the SEC is the only conference that is one contiguous entity.  

I’d split it somewhat regionally. 

West: Texas, A&M, Arkansas, LSU, OU, Miss St, Ole Miss, Auburn. 

East: Alabama, UGa, Kentucky, USC, Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Missouri. 

The only guaranteed yearly games are the ones in your division. Don’t like it?  Too bad, should’ve stayed at 12 or 14 or whatever. 

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Re: Realignment Future to Fix the Damn Thing
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2026, 11:52:27 PM »
So based on the B1G vote, they chose ND and Virginia.
Taking UVA out of the expanded SEC, we replace them with Clemson.

Changing the divisions to East-West for all 3 super-conferences:

SEC West:  Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas
SEC East:  Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Clemson, VA Tech, North Carolina, NC State
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B1G West:  USC, UCLA, Oregon, Warshington, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
B1G East:  Michigan, Ohio St, Michigan St, Penn St, Maryland, Virginia, Notre Dame, Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers
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BAC West:  Utah, BYU, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas St, Colorado, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona St
BAC East:  Florida St, Miami, GA Tech, Pitt, Louisville, Duke, Syracuse, West Virginia, SMU, TCU
(BAC = Big Atlantic Conf)

The 6 division-winners are in the playoff.  They can either have a CCG or not.  If they do, it's just for seeding, NOT for a playoff spot.  This is because they played everyone else in their own division and have earned their spot.
2 at-large spots.
This year, the division winners would be Indiana, Miami, Texas Tech, Oregon, Georgia, and Ole Miss. 
The 2 at-large teams would be Ohio St and Texas A&M

By CFP Ranking: 
8 Miami @ 1 Indiana winner vs
5 Oregon @ 4 Texas Tech winner.
7 Ole Miss @ 2 Ohio St winner vs
6 Texas A&M @ 3 Georgia winner
(I switched Ole Miss and A&M to avoid a rematch, because I have a brain)

For the semis and final, the 3 old, traditional bowls rotate - Rose, Orange, Sugar
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That's the playoff.  8 teams.  No byes.  1st round on-campus.
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For the other bowls, you still get great games.  They're tiered, so 4 bowls for the teams just out of the playoff, then 4 more for the next-best teams.
It would look something like this:
Fiesta, Cotton, Citrus, Peach
and
Gator, Outback, Holiday, Sun
.
Fiesta:  BYU vs USC
Cotton:  OU vs Vandy
Citrus:  Texas vs Utah
Peach:  Alabama vs Notre Dame
.
Gator:  Tulane vs Houston
Outback:  Michigan vs Virginia
Holiday:  Arizona vs Iowa
Sun:  GA Tech vs James Madison
.
It would sort of be like the old days, where the first 4 pick and chose the 8 teams they wanted to invite, then the next 4 would do it after them.  The lesser bowls would be played between the 1st round and semis of the playoff.  The better 4 bowls played between the semis and the NCG.

Schedule:
1st round on campuses, Sat Dec 13
Semifinals, Sat Dec 20
Nat'l Championship Game, Jan 1
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Gator, Outback, Holiday, Sun - spread out between Dec 14-19
Fiesta, Cotton, Citrus, Peach - spread out between Dec 21-31
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Summary:
The national champion will have been one of the top teams and will earn it on the field.
Every team has an equal opportunity to make the playoff, by winning their division.
Everyone plays everyone else in their division.
There is a spot for super-good teams that don't win their division.
The non-playoff bowls are limited in number and have worthwhile participants - ie rewarding a good season!
24 teams make the postseason altogether.
This is like 17 days of quality football:  1st round on campuses, bowls sprinkled in among teams ranked 17-24th, semifinal games, bowls sprinkled in among teams ranked 9-16th, then the national championship game on January 1st.
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Exclusivity.
Tradition.
Fairness.
Balance.
All 6 divisions incorporate old rivals plus newbies. 
Back to 10-team divisions like conferences used to be.
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It works.  It's good.  It could be great.  But it makes too much sense to ever happen.

« Last Edit: January 03, 2026, 11:58:45 PM by OrangeAfroMan »
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