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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1484 on: January 07, 2025, 11:02:57 AM »
Hype often is over hyped into real hyperbole.

I saw some say the UGA defense in 2021 was an "All Timer", and it was pretty solid.  I think I've seen some better though.

Tennessee in 1938 I think it was didn't allow any points before their bowl game where they faced the all time greated USC team.

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« Reply #1485 on: January 07, 2025, 11:13:33 AM »
I think the 2015 (or 2016?  I forget) Alabama defensive line might actually be the Greatest DL Of All Time.  Or at least that I recall seeing.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1486 on: January 07, 2025, 11:18:30 AM »
Texas in 1984 had an incredible defense.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1487 on: January 07, 2025, 11:26:46 AM »
Sure wish the kick return team in the '84 Cotton Bowl had been a little better...

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« Reply #1488 on: January 07, 2025, 11:51:50 AM »
Brings up an interesting question.  If you could pick different parts of your various teams through the years to represent the best they ever did at certain aspects, what units would you pick?

I have serious recency bias, obviously because I didn't watch a lot of old LSU teams play, but also because I think in objective terms and not in terms of "relative to their time." 

I'd take:  2011 back-end pass defense but 2003 pass rush, 2011 run defense, but with 2018 linebackers, if I'm allowed a lot of wiggle room on the hypothetical.  2019 or 2023 passing offense, whichever, don't care.  2015-16 rushing offense.  2011 special teams, except 2021 place kicking.  That'd be the zOMG! Greatest LSU Team Of All Time

What would y'all pick for Texas and UGA? 

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1489 on: January 07, 2025, 11:54:21 AM »
Good question.  Some of those 1960s defenses were pretty solid for that era.  Hard to compare with today.  On offense, I liked the ones with Sony Michel and Nick Chubb.  They knew how to RTDB pretty well.  That team that beat OU was within an eyelash of an NC.


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« Reply #1490 on: January 07, 2025, 12:24:31 PM »
UGA has had so many great backs, it would be hard to narrow down, probably.  That team that had both Chubb and Gurley would have to rank highly in the run game, I'd think.  Fans had a t-shirt that said "Everybody Loves a Chubby Gurl" with a RB silhouette.  

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« Reply #1491 on: January 07, 2025, 12:27:19 PM »
VY at QB and Ricky Williams at RB, and I'm not sure the rest of the offense really matters all that much.  But I suppose I could just say "the 1996 running backfield" which had Priest Holmes in addition to Ricky Williams...


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« Reply #1492 on: January 07, 2025, 12:39:50 PM »
Thinking about run game, it's hard to go against Bijon's teams for UT, but I'm kinda partial to the 2005 iteration.  The depth and variation of strengths was quite something on that team.  I'm trying to remember them all now, I used to know their names.  There were five of them.  Jamaal Charles was a great all-around back.  Ramonce Taylor, was a speedy little mofo, killer in space.  Henry Melton was a short-yardage specialist, a 260+ pounder who, I think, later got moved to DE.  Selvin Young was a guy I don't remember much about anymore, but he stands out as one of the five worth remembering, so I assume he was pretty good at something.  Can't remember the fifth guy I'm thinking of.  Pretty sure there was a fifth, tho.  It was a deep and versatile crew, probably made all the more productive by the threat of VY's read-options. 

There wasn't a good way to match up Texas' 2005 run game imo.  Best option was to wreck the line and stop a play before it really started, but UT's 2005 OL made that rather difficult, and seldom realized.  That'd get my pick.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1493 on: January 07, 2025, 12:46:02 PM »
They had Chubb, Michel, and Gurley on the same team, Gurley had to sit four games for some NIL infraction.

Nick Chubb is one of my all time favorites.

They had some other dude back around 1980 who was decent.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1494 on: January 07, 2025, 12:47:16 PM »
It's now 25 years past 2000.  The quarter century before that was 1975.  I was finishing up undergrad work in 75.


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« Reply #1495 on: January 07, 2025, 12:49:26 PM »
Well sure, you could just say "the entire 2005 team" if you wanted.  That o-line is likely the best we ever had.  David Thomas at tight end is way up there for us.  On the other side of the ball, the DBs were incredible, every single one of the starting 4 spent multiple years in the NFL.  The d-line was pretty salty too with Brian Robison and Tim Crowder at DE and a young Brian Orakpo backing them up, and Rodrique Wright and Frank Okam at DT.  Really the only weak position group on that team was the LBers.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1496 on: January 07, 2025, 12:51:08 PM »
Passing game: 

I don't know about the overall athleticism and physical giftedness for Texas, but Colt's '08 and '09 teams from a standpoint of sheer production and situational ability are hard to beat.  There weren't many defensive looks or athletic defenders that could consistently give them problems.  Nigh impossible to shut down for an entire game.  Colt's brain worked too fast for the college game and a QB like that is very hard to deal with.  

For UGA, I'm thinking of Stafford's last year.  I believe that UGA team had AJ Green.  They were quite something when Stafford was on.  Might be better UGA passing offenses, but that one springs to mind.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1497 on: January 07, 2025, 12:53:23 PM »
Passing game: 

I don't know about the overall athleticism and physical giftedness for Texas, but Colt's '08 and '09 teams from a standpoint of sheer production and situational ability are hard to beat.  There weren't many defensive looks or athletic defenders that could consistently give them problems.  Nigh impossible to shut down for an entire game.  Colt's brain worked too fast for the college game and a QB like that is very hard to deal with. 

For UGA, I'm thinking of Stafford's last year.  I believe that UGA team had AJ Green.  They were quite something when Stafford was on.  Might be better UGA passing offenses, but that one springs to mind.
The most impressive thing about those teams is that in 2008 the o-line was barely average, and in 2009 it was completely awful.  Colt and the receivers performed super-human feats on a regular basis in order to move that ball down the field.  2008 was the last not-horrible o-line Texas had, until just now under Sarkisian.  A decade and a half of putridity.

 

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