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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1456 on: January 03, 2025, 01:50:02 PM »
I have no doubt that Ohio State has Texas' full attention, and whatever lack of concern that can creep in with teams like Clemson or even ASU, it won't be there this time around.  Ohio State has been playing murder-ball so far in the playoffs, and Texas is well aware of it. 

I don't expect UT to get blown out or anything.  I won't even be surprised if they win.  But they need to find a way, somehow, to put together their first, full, complete game, and leave the shotgun they like to aim at their foot at home. 

Re: what Catsby, 320, and utee were talking about above:  I remember a USC fan back in the day when Sark was Pete Carroll's OC telling me that he sometimes felt like Sark called plays like he was playing a video game instead of orchestrating non-NPC, real 18-22 year old boys.  It does feel to me like that occasionally creeps in when Texas is doing well.  Not that he's literally thinking about the game flow like he's playing a video game, but approaching it with that mentality.  "If that worked, then this will be even better!  Watch!"  When at those points, it often seems to me that a bit more of the same would be the prescribed formula. 

I could point to a lot of things (and chief amongst them would be Cam Skattebo--holy cow!), but the thing that sticks out in my memory as I think about the ending of that game was the false start coming out of the 2-minute timeout.  Texas needed to kill the clock, but you go from 1st and 10 which is friendly to a couple of running plays, even if they don't get you much, to 1st and 15.  That puts you in a situation where you understandably lean more towards the pass, but the trick is, one incompletion puts you at 2nd and 15, and now you're going to probably pass twice more.  It's frustrating to watch a team not run there and instead throw 3 incompletions and take hardly any time off the clock.  But I understood the thinking, and I don't even disagree with it.  It just didn't work out.  But I think Sark probably runs the ball there without that stupid false start.  I've watched my team do this crap for 3 years now and there is hardly ever a reason a team should have any sort of pre-snap penalty coming out of a timeout.  Very frustrating to watch another team, a highly capable one, do something like that.  It probably seems like a small thing, and YMMV, but imo if Texas doesn't false start there, the game most likely does not go to OT with Texas winning in regulation.  Just a very inopportune unforced error.  


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1457 on: January 03, 2025, 01:58:39 PM »
Texas seems to find focus when it needs it. These are still 18-22 year olds who are, by this time, very fatigued both physically and mentally. It's a lot to take in.

What Texas isn't comfortable with right now, which would make the offense a lot cleaner, is an inside running game. The power back (CJ Baxter) is recovering from a preseason knee injury. Without him, Texas has had to manufacture a run threat to the middle of the field out of spare parts. No one seriously believes Quinn is ever going to keep the ball on the mesh, so the DE just waits to play the RB going wide. Texas has really good players, so sometimes they still win at point of contact, but it's a limiting way to scheme.

Some of Quinn's slow developing swing throws and misdirections are attempts to keep central defenders from getting comfortable. When those plays land on an aggressive defense trying to attack centrally, there's no one left to stop the ball carrier. When the defense is playing straight up, the play takes too long and it looks silly.

tOSU will be one of the only offenses Texas plays with difference makers at every position. Texas still has talent to beat them all individually, but I expect we'll see some big gainers when the Buckeyes win some plays.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1458 on: January 03, 2025, 02:08:39 PM »
If Texas wins out, I'm going to declare UGA National Champions.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1459 on: January 03, 2025, 02:51:12 PM »
That's a very Bama thing to do. 

In fact, if you declare UGA champions, I expect Bama will quickly claim another title as well.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1460 on: January 03, 2025, 03:47:23 PM »
If Bama claims it, give it to Vandy.

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« Reply #1461 on: January 03, 2025, 03:56:13 PM »
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1462 on: January 03, 2025, 05:34:24 PM »
If Bama claims it, give it to Vandy.
And OU.

But if OU and Vandy get it, then give it to Texas...


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1463 on: January 03, 2025, 06:32:24 PM »
Maybe every SEC fan base could claim a title.  I mean, it just means more, right?

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1464 on: January 04, 2025, 04:10:38 PM »
An interesting factoid after Texas' victory in the Peach Bowl:



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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1465 on: January 04, 2025, 04:24:23 PM »
UGA never played in the Fiesta.  It was a minor bowl, as was the Peach, "back in the day".  UGA does have a lot of bowl game wins.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1466 on: January 04, 2025, 04:36:33 PM »
There are only 4 major bowls historically.  Rose, Cotton, Orange, and Sugar.

The Fiesta Bowl benefitted in the late 80s and early 90s of being able to match up traditionally strong plus newly emerging independent powers Penn State, Notre Dame, Miami, and Florida State.

Peach Bowl has never been a major, but it did get lumped into the "New Year's 6" when they needed an even number.

Either way I'd rather win it than lose it.  It's a fun factoid but really it's an anachronism from a bygone era.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1467 on: January 04, 2025, 04:44:03 PM »
I think the Peach is a major bowl today, but obviously wasn't for most of its era, same with Fiesta.  I obviously agree there are four historic major bowls.

The Rose is hardest for most teams to have a win, UGA has two oddly enough, separated by quite a few decades.

The Peach struggled to stay a bowl for years, and was afflicted with horrible weather year after year it seemed.  It hit pay dirt with the SEC-ACC linkage, and then Chick-Fil-A money.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1468 on: January 04, 2025, 04:49:00 PM »
I've never valued it as a bowl game, just not enough history there.

But now that it's in the rotation for the CFP quarter and semi finals, I'm happy to see my team play in it, and even happier to see my team win it.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1469 on: January 04, 2025, 05:01:46 PM »
Deep pockets make a bowl a major these days.  I was pretty happy when the Peach invited SEC 6 and ACC 2, the games were usually good and it sold out.  They did that for a number of years, the ACC team got a larger payout.  Folks came and enjoyed the experience, I think on NYE.  It worked pretty nicely for a minor bowl.

I recall when the Gator was probably the next best bowl after the four majors.  Getting there meant you had a pretty good year, like 9-2.    Then the Citrus took over as the next best, the highest payout other than a major.  

Speaking of which, when did QBs largely stop calling their own plays?

 

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