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Cincydawg

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2024, 01:18:24 PM »
I used to think winning the SEC was THE goal of a season, and I liked it like that.  Winning, or being crowned, NC, required luck.  Sometimes the SEC crown was shared, and that was OK too.

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2024, 01:56:49 PM »
Yeah I actually still value the conference titles. But clearly the rest of the world is turning sharply in another direction.  It's likely I'll just completely fall off once the turn is sharp enough.
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2024, 04:00:37 PM »
Ole Miss doesn't know what the SEC championship trophy looks like either. 
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2024, 04:02:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 29, 2024, 01:18:24 PM
I used to think winning the SEC was THE goal of a season, and I liked it like that.  Winning, or being crowned, NC, required luck.  Sometimes the SEC crown was shared, and that was OK too.

[img width=273.714 height=333]https://i.imgur.com/q6JAsiH.png[/img]

I like that UGA's confetti is purple and gold. 
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2024, 04:48:39 PM »
I think WE are getting old.
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2024, 06:12:23 PM »
Silly season: Here's how No. 2 Georgia can finish 11-1 and not reach the SEC Championship Game - CBSSports.com
Silly season: Here's how No. 2 Georgia can finish 11-1 and not reach the SEC Championship Game - CBSSports.com

UGA in theory could be the Number One ranked team in the polls and not be a 1-4 seed in the playoffs.  That would get tongues wagging.

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2024, 11:36:50 PM »
Indeed it would
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2024, 01:51:56 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 29, 2024, 01:18:24 PM
I used to think winning the SEC was THE goal of a season, and I liked it like that.  Winning, or being crowned, NC, required luck.  Sometimes the SEC crown was shared, and that was OK too.
Same thing with OU and the Big 8. Win the conference, go to the Orange Bowl, beat Texas along the way and maybe have a shot at winning the MNC.
I imagine that Texas fans felt that way too. Win the SWC, go to the Cotton Bowl, beat OU along the way . . . .
And Michigan and Ohio State fans: beat the rival school in the process of winning the Big Ten, go to the Rose Bowl . . . .

I said over a decade ago that a playoff would reduce interest in the regular season. In the sense that winning the conference is now less important, it certainly has.
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2024, 02:01:20 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on October 31, 2024, 01:51:56 PM
Same thing with OU and the Big 8. Win the conference, go to the Orange Bowl, beat Texas along the way and maybe have a shot at winning the MNC.
I imagine that Texas fans felt that way too. Win the SWC, go to the Cotton Bowl, beat OU along the way . . . .
And Michigan and Ohio State fans: beat the rival school in the process of winning the Big Ten, go to the Rose Bowl . . . .

I said over a decade ago that a playoff would reduce interest in the regular season. In the sense that winning the conference is now less important, it certainly has.
100% agree. Those were the goals.  And college football was more fun back then.

Also agree with your final statement overall,  but with one caveat-- I do like that the playoff makes more games toward the end of the season relevant for the NC picture.  Historically, by about halfway through the season we knew that all but maybe 5-6 teams were already eliminated from the NC picture.  Now, a LOT more schools will still have a chance, all the way through to the final games of the season.  So, while earlier games are less meaningful, and games in general have less individual meaning, the later games are now MORE meaningful, with respect to post-season NC chances.

Is it enough to outweigh the dilution of the regular season?  Not for me.  But, here we are.
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2024, 03:19:16 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on October 31, 2024, 01:51:56 PM
Same thing with OU and the Big 8. Win the conference, go to the Orange Bowl, beat Texas along the way and maybe have a shot at winning the MNC.
I imagine that Texas fans felt that way too. Win the SWC, go to the Cotton Bowl, beat OU along the way . . . .
And Michigan and Ohio State fans: beat the rival school in the process of winning the Big Ten, go to the Rose Bowl . . . .

I said over a decade ago that a playoff would reduce interest in the regular season. In the sense that winning the conference is now less important, it certainly has.
The major problem with that formula is that it really only works for those of you in the Blue Blood category, so that even if you have a uh-oh along the way, you can still get in, like the 2003 Big 12 CCG when OU lost to KSU, but still played for the MNC, whereas when K-State lost to a very good A&M team in the Big 12 CCG, they were out of the picture.  Or the numerous times when Alabama/Georgia lost, but made the playoffs.  Or when LSU had two losses and still made it.  At least under the new system, Johnny Come Lately can still make it in.  

And yes, I do agree that it will pretty much be more of the same Alabama/OU/Georgia/Ohio State winning it, but they'll have to do it on the field.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2024, 04:41:09 PM »
Really, you gotta do it one way or the other.
When we didn't have anything "playoff-ish" like the BCS or some such, winning your conference was the prize. Win your conference, get a good bowl, play during the holidays! The glory was, fans could then argue forever about "who really was #1" at the end. You could debate schedule strength, close losses, bowl pairings, etc. Argument fodder.
Conversely, you can do it with a 12 team playoff. Losing a game doesn't kill you. Losing your conference championship (now that conferences can't be settled round-robin) game doesn't end it. Schedule a tough team. Glory is yours if you win it. If not, its not fatal.
The previous iterations rewarded undefeated seasons and only served to contribute to the dumbing down of football.
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2024, 05:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Mr Tulip on October 31, 2024, 04:41:09 PM
Really, you gotta do it one way or the other.
When we didn't have anything "playoff-ish" like the BCS or some such, winning your conference was the prize. Win your conference, get a good bowl, play during the holidays! The glory was, fans could then argue forever about "who really was #1" at the end. You could debate schedule strength, close losses, bowl pairings, etc. Argument fodder.
Conversely, you can do it with a 12 team playoff. Losing a game doesn't kill you. Losing your conference championship (now that conferences can't be settled round-robin) game doesn't end it. Schedule a tough team. Glory is yours if you win it. If not, its not fatal.
The previous iterations rewarded undefeated seasons and only served to contribute to the dumbing down of football.
2004  Auburn says hello.  
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2024, 05:37:31 PM »
As a Dawg fan "back in the day", I mean 60s etc, making a bowl game was a good year.  Way to go!  Making a major bowl was a very good year, and winning one was icing.  About the top finishes were #4, a top ten finish was terrific, being #1 was basically not in the cards.  That went to OSU Texas ND Nebraska et al.  If you happened to upset Alabama, that was a good year.

Now of course anything short of an NC is a terrible year, fire the coach, pull your hair out, etc.,  last year is a good example.

Is it more "fun" now?  In a way it is, in a way too stressful.  Then add in NIL and portaling and it starts to ... dim.  I dunno, I still pay attention obviously.

I have no clue why it means anything, I guess because it doesn't..
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2024, 08:58:19 AM »
I'm guessing Carson Beck is getting all the blame for UGAs loss to Ole Miss, a rare second loss of the season? The worst being his 11 interceptions so far this season.




In Beck's defense Georgia's running game is the least effective in quite some time, ranked 3rd last in the SEC going into yesterday's games. TE Bowers leaving has left a hole in the passing game, which seems lacking in star WRs to begin with. And the defense, still top notch, has had uncharacteristic 'off-days' about once a month.
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