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Topic: Let's Talk Georgia Football

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Cincydawg

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2024, 04:31:34 AM »
Southern cities might claim to be desegregated, but it was widely "understood" who could go where and when after that happened.  Around here, the main E-W road {Poce de Leon was the N-S dividing line, if you lived north of that, you were white, aside from some small enclaves, and vice versa.  This isn't true today of course, but several N-S roads that cross Ponce change their names at that point.  Monroe becomes Boulevard, etc.

One area south is termed "Old Fourth Ward" and is now a hotbed of gentrification.  I don't know how hotels here handled things in 1967.  There still are "black neighborhoods" mostly south of downtown.  But white folks are moving back inside the city limits now, a reverse while flight.

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2024, 08:44:00 AM »
The team voted.  Nobody here has any idea why they voted as they did.

Link a source substantiating why the team voted as it did.  Not supposition or hearsay, direct quotes.

Oh and Penn State actually did go to the Cotton Bowl just two years later. But I'm sure any potential hangups about desegregation were completely resolved during that span...
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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2024, 09:17:54 AM »
y'all are fast becoming candidates for area-51.  

.... i'll send a recruiter your way. 

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2024, 09:25:18 AM »
I've said my piece.

Back to Longhorn football...err... I mean Georgia football!

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2024, 11:31:18 AM »
I'm not sure how much the Dallas ISD would bear on that decision even if it were on Penn St's mind.  ISDs =/= hotel/UT policy.  I'm assuming it's possible whatever the school districts were doing had nothing to do with what UT and hotels were doing, and that PSU people may not have cared about the Dallas ISD at all. 

I wasn't there, and I wouldn't know.  But without direct evidence, it seems tenuous to assert a stronger connection than need be warranted.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2024, 11:33:21 AM »
On Georgia football:  I always sort of liked UGA, and always considered them my second favorite SEC team, albeit a far, far distant second.....so far so as not to really warrant the term "favorite." 

I lived in GA for a couple years growing up, I know a lot of UGA fans, and I've liked a number of their players.  I was happy for them when they finally won a title (in my memory, I mean).

It got a little bit annoying when they won a second one the year after.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2024, 12:27:34 PM »
I've always liked Georgia, other than that little issue of the 1984 Cotton Bowl.  But as I've said before, that was more our fault than theirs.

But yeah, a history of good players from Georgia, lots of tradition, what's not to like?  I've also always liked Alabama, and LSU, and Tennessee.  I guess I've got a lot of love for the SEC.

Except for A&M, and Arkansas, and Oklahoma, of course.  No love there at all!

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2024, 01:08:13 PM »
Now wait just a minute.  I know bullshit when I smell it, and it's getting thick in here.  Because, as I remember, the very next year Texas claims to have won the national championship, despite having lost their bowl game.  I may have my years mixed up, but it seems like there is a year in the 60's/70.  1970 is the year.  The reason we're always given is that some of the polls were conducted before the end of the season, and the bowl game wasn't really considered for several years.  Only later did the polls evolve to include the bowl game.  

So, by that logic, ND or Texas should have already been the champion.  

Just curious, does any of the polls have PSU as MNC for 1969?  Not just the AP or whatever they had.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2024, 01:18:18 PM »
We're talking about the 1969 season.  That year the Coaches' Poll completed its final voting in early December, before the bowl season, and 10-0 Texas was voted #1 while 10-0 Penn State was voted #2.  The AP Poll completed its final voting in January after the bowls, and 11-0 Texas voted #1 while 11-0 Penn State was voted #2. Had Penn State accepted the Cotton Bowl invitation and beaten Texas in Dallas, then it's presumed (and highly likely) that they would have won the AP Poll vote for #1.  I don't know about any of the other rankings, the AP and Coaches' polls are really the only two that mattered at the time and they're the only two that matter still.

Despite the popular myth, Nixon awarding Texas the "national championship" via a small plaque he had made up, after the Texas-Arkansas game, really had nothing to do with the actual national championship.  The voters in both polls were still free to vote for whichever teams they saw fit.

Then it was the following year, the regular season for 1970, where the polls were split and Texas was voted #1 by the Coaches' Poll at the end of the regular season, while Nebraska was voted #1 by the AP Poll after the bowl games (Texas finished #3 in the AP that year).

This Georgia football talk is fun!



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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2024, 02:37:34 PM »
I thought it was the UPI at the time.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2024, 03:10:29 PM »
I thought it was the UPI at the time. 
Yes Coaches' Poll was the UPI Poll, same thing.  In 1990 it changed to the USA Today poll and was some form of that for a couple of decades, and now apparently it's called the US LBM Poll, whatever that is.

But regardless of press affiliation/sponsor, it's been the Coaches' Poll since 1950.

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2024, 05:19:03 AM »
I think to be a "real" CFB fan, one must "like" in a sense, a lot of programs distant from your own, "like" meaning respect or appreciate or sometimes pull for especially when they play a team not so distant from yours.  I don't "dislike" any team really, I try and take them as they are.  I do agree when one team starts to dominate, they get on my nerves along with some arrogant fans who think it'll never end.

It aids in enjoyment, I think, on Saturdays when waiting perhaps on your team to watch say Wisconin playing Iowa.

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2024, 10:13:37 AM »
 now apparently it's called the US LBM Poll, whatever that is.

It either stands for Until Saturday, Let's Blather More, or it's the Unforgotten Stories--Little Big Matt.  

I forget which.  

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Re: Let's Talk Georgia Football
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2024, 10:22:39 AM »
I think to be a "real" CFB fan, one must "like" in a sense, a lot of programs distant from your own, "like" meaning respect or appreciate or sometimes pull for especially when they play a team not so distant from yours.  I don't "dislike" any team really, I try and take them as they are.  I do agree when one team starts to dominate, they get on my nerves along with some arrogant fans who think it'll never end.

It aids in enjoyment, I think, on Saturdays when waiting perhaps on your team to watch say Wisconin playing Iowa.
I've watched several thrilling games over the years that had zero to do with my own team.  WVU beating OU in that BCS bowl game, Texas over USC, Florida over FSU in the MNC, NU over UTenn in the BCS (not a thriller but I was rooting for the XII), and countless others that I've really enjoyed.  Sometimes, if I am able, I will just watch CFB all day long, even with teams that have nothing to do with my own, just because I enjoy the sport.  

Except the PAC, I never watch those teams.  :) 

 

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