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Topic: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing

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utee94

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Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« on: November 25, 2024, 08:35:55 AM »
For me the best thing about Texas joining the SEC, was being reunited with old rivals Arkansas and Texas A&M, while also maintaining the OU rivalry.  I'm old-school and I value rivalries above pretty much everything else in college football.  Winning the conference is great but difficult, winning the national championship is great but REALLY difficult, and both tend to rely on outside forces aligning to enable the event to happen.

But rivalries... that's where your team gets to measure itself directly against those other guys, the ones we just can't stand, and see how things stack up.  A year's worth of bragging rights are table stakes.  Recruiting battles are often involved.  And sometimes, sometimes even a berth in the conference championship game is on the line.

The stakes are high this week.  First meeting in over a decade, tons of recruiting battles involved, the fans are frothing-at-the-mouth excited, and the meeting is a winner-take-all for the second spot in the SEC CCG.  I wish it were on Thanksgiving night as it should be, but we'll just have to make do and be thankful for what we've got.  And what that is, is the biggest Texas-Texas A&M game in at least a half-century.

It'll be a war, it'll be a heartbreaker, and it'll be a lot of fun.

Howdy Ags, glad to see you again.
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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2024, 10:25:02 AM »
Hard to believe it's been over a decade since they last played, yet true.  Craig James called the last UT/A&M game, if that tells you how long ago it was. 

I wonder how many hookers he's killed since then?  

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2024, 10:27:53 AM »
If Texas wins they're clearly in the SECCG, having the best record. 

If Texas loses, you've got UT, UGA, A&M, and Tennessee all at 6-2, so then I wonder what happens.  Two of those are in, two are out.

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2024, 10:51:24 AM »
Texas A&M gets in the dance vs UGA if they win.  It's cut and dried.  Tennessee is out.


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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2024, 10:52:35 AM »
SEC:
  • Clinched: Georgia has locked up a spot in the SEC Title Game for the fourth consecutive year and the seventh time in the last eight seasons.
  • Scenarios: Texas controls its own destiny in its first SEC season and can secure a spot with a win against No. 15 Texas A&M (the Longhorns are currently favored by 7.5 points). Likewise, three-loss Texas A&M can keep its CFP hopes alive by beating Texas. If it does so, it will make the SEC Championship Game to face Georgia, where it can jump from off the bubble to first-round CFP bye if it takes the Dawgs out.


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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2024, 11:07:25 AM »
I feel like a 3-loss team should never have a first round bye in cfb.  But then, I'm still thinking as if the sport I loved still exists.

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2024, 11:09:43 AM »
If Texas wins they're clearly in the SECCG, having the best record. 

If Texas loses, you've got UT, UGA, A&M, and Tennessee all at 6-2, so then I wonder what happens.  Two of those are in, two are out.
Texas A&M gets in the dance vs UGA if they win.  It's cut and dried.  Tennessee is out.



Yup, Texas A&M would own the tie-breakers against all other 2-loss teams except Georgia.  So the winner of the Texas-TAMU game goes to Atlanta to play Georgia for the SEC title.

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2024, 11:14:53 AM »
I guess I was unclear on how A&M has a tie-breaker vs. Tennessee.

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2024, 11:17:51 AM »
I guess I was unclear on how A&M has a tie-breaker vs. Tennessee.
I don't know either, I guess something to do with conference opponents' win percentage maybe?  Or some other esoteric measure.

But the SEC office has gone through the scenarios and announced that it's Georgia vs. Texas/TAMU winner.

Should be fun!

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2024, 11:48:50 AM »
Texas won the Big 12 in that conference's inaugural season.  This conference has been here for a while, but history would sort of repeat itself if Texas won it in their first year of membership. 

Also, I would lolz a little bit, cuz A&M hasn't even made an appearance in the game in over ten years here.  

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2024, 12:42:53 PM »
It's conference opponent winning percentages that favors A&M over Tennessee.

I would prefer they take the top ranked team in the CFP, I think.

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2024, 01:30:09 PM »
Not me.  That'd be more of a beauty pageant metric.  I'm OK with rewarding the team with the better schedule.  

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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2024, 01:44:12 PM »
It eliminates OOC losses as a factor of course.  And the difference will often be one game, which is not material in my view.


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Re: Hate Week #3 -- This Time It's An All-Texas Thing
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2024, 03:07:05 PM »
Texas won the Big 12 in that conference's inaugural season.  This conference has been here for a while, but history would sort of repeat itself if Texas won it in their first year of membership. 

Also, I would lolz a little bit, cuz A&M hasn't even made an appearance in the game in over ten years here. 
The parallels and history repeating itself run even deeper.  

Texas won the conference football championship in the last year of the SWC in 1995, and then won the conference championship in the first year of their new conference in the B12 in 1996.

Texas won the conference football championship in their last year in the B12 in 2023, and now.... has the chance to win the conference football championship in their first year of their new conference, the SEC, in 2024,

Oh and that Big 12 CCG in 1996 against Nebraska occurred on December 7th.  And I'll give you one guess as to the date of the SEC championship game this year against Georgia....

But, none of that will matter if the Ags out-hate us on Saturday and kill all of our hopes and dreams...

 

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