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Topic: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2024, 02:31:13 PM »
Eh, happy wife, happy life.  You'll be rooting for Texas, for your own survival if nothing else. :)


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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2024, 12:44:19 AM »
I obviously haven't watched all their games, but the first game went contrary to what I've observed in a limited sample:
UGA usually looking like hot garbage in the first half, then kicking ass in the 2nd half (vs Florida, vs GT, perhaps others, idk).
In the games I've watched Texas play, they get out ahead to a comfy lead and then cruise control it the rest of the way, letting teams get back in it (Arky, A&M-ish).

So idk what to think.  They're both very good AND very flawed.  

And if any pair of teams plays 3x, I'm out.  I'm watching Florida only and will not subject myself to NFL-lite.  F- that noise.
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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2024, 08:37:08 AM »
I obviously haven't watched all their games, but the first game went contrary to what I've observed in a limited sample:
UGA usually looking like hot garbage in the first half, then kicking ass in the 2nd half (vs Florida, vs GT, perhaps others, idk).
In the games I've watched Texas play, they get out ahead to a comfy lead and then cruise control it the rest of the way, letting teams get back in it (Arky, A&M-ish).

So idk what to think.  They're both very good AND very flawed. 

And if any pair of teams plays 3x, I'm out.  I'm watching Florida only and will not subject myself to NFL-lite.  F- that noise.
Yeah this game seems to be a bit of a mystery.  I guess the only thing that would surprise me is a blowout in either direction.

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2024, 09:01:28 AM »
If I'm a Texas fan (I am) hoping something will be different (I am), I'm focusing on a couple of things. 1. Quinn's brain, and likely rib cage, still wasn't healed. While he's not the superstar we'd imagined even when healthy, he wasn't ready to play that game. 2. Texas didn't trust their OL to run inside. The big Texas power back is season-ending hurt, and Sark didn't want to test UGA's tackles. Georgia set its defense on the edges to contain the speed game, and played deep safeties to clog the home run ball.

Really, point #2 is the big one. Texas spent every game since that one running inside to great effect. They should be confident now to use the entire field. I'm not predicting immense success running on those tackles, but keeping the defensive deployment honest should open up options.

This is the 13th game of the year, so I think it's fair to say the Texas defense doesn't let the other team score unless our own offense helps out. That said, I think frankly UGA's touchdown drive to answer the mis-hit 2nd half KO touchdown Texas got was heroic. If Texas got that stop, it's game on. Instead, the hill became a mountain again. That's the one series this season I really want back.

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2024, 09:07:05 AM »
If I'm a Texas fan (I am) hoping something will be different (I am), I'm focusing on a couple of things. 1. Quinn's brain, and likely rib cage, still wasn't healed. While he's not the superstar we'd imagined even when healthy, he wasn't ready to play that game. 2. Texas didn't trust their OL to run inside. The big Texas power back is season-ending hurt, and Sark didn't want to test UGA's tackles. Georgia set its defense on the edges to contain the speed game, and played deep safeties to clog the home run ball.

Really, point #2 is the big one. Texas spent every game since that one running inside to great effect. They should be confident now to use the entire field. I'm not predicting immense success running on those tackles, but keeping the defensive deployment honest should open up options.

This is the 13th game of the year, so I think it's fair to say the Texas defense doesn't let the other team score unless our own offense helps out. That said, I think frankly UGA's touchdown drive to answer the mis-hit 2nd half KO touchdown Texas got was heroic. If Texas got that stop, it's game on. Instead, the hill became a mountain again. That's the one series this season I really want back.
Totally agree.  That's the one defensive series all season long where I just felt like the other team whipped us.  Everything else in that game was pretty easy for the Georgia offense, with our own offense choking and delivering them short fields time and again.  But that one drive, ended the game, and represented the one time this season where our defense truly just came up short in a situation where it mattered.

THAT drive is why I worry about this game. Not the first half.  That one drive.

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2024, 09:20:15 AM »
A great offense is going to score on a great defense.  Using the NFL as a model, where the players are all elite, an outstanding defense's job against an outstanding offense is to limit the damage.  But damage will be done.  A cornerback may win 50% of the time covering routes against a star WR, and that's spectacular.  The other 50% of the time is going to wind up in points, if the offense as a whole is similarly talented and cohesive.  When the offense is less than spectacular--or even just "good"--that defense may well put the clamps on an opposing offense all game.  In college, they might do that most of the season, as most offenses can't stand up to them. 

But a truly elite offense?  Is going to score on a truly elite defense.

UGA can be elite on offense, but it has to be said that a lot of the time they aren't.  I haven't put my finger on what the formula is for predicting when they flip the switch and when they don't.  I feel mostly the same way about UGA's defense.  When they're on, they can put the brakes on most teams and at least slow down pretty much anyone.  But sometimes they're off, and they become listless, a bit like their offensive counterparts. 

The Texas defense, I have yet to see them "off."  I expect them to force UGA's offense to be "on" all game, and if they're not, UGA's best shot will be UT's propensity to not turn domination into points.  There haven't been many games this season where Texas didn't hold up their foot, put a shotgun to it, and tell the competition "Hey, watch this."  Without that aspect of the Longhorns, they likely would've been one of those teams who went 50-0 several times in a season, instead of 27-10 or somesuch.

It all makes a game between the two hard to predict, even with round 1 to inform us.

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2024, 09:35:22 AM »
Ha!  Sure, why not?


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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2024, 09:48:00 AM »
Looking at the total season for each team Texas appears to be much more even-keeled.  It's hard to really compare the two teams completely because they only faced a few of the same teams outside of the game they played against each other. 

Check that, actually they did play several of the same teams.  Looks like they each played UK, Miss St, and Florida. 

Ga 13 UK 12  Big head scratcher here.  Ga should have beat them by 21.  
Tex 31 UK 14  Expected result.


Ga 34 Fla 20 Fla hung tough for a bit, Ga took over 2nd half if I remember the game correctly. 
Tex 49 Fla 17 not even that close.  

Ga 41 Miss St 31
Tex 35 Miss St 13 As I recall Tex started slow in this game, half was much closer, but Texas took over in the 4th.  

And then of course, the H2H in Austin, Ga won 30-15.  

I think overall, Ga played a much tougher schedule than Texas.  They beat a 9-win, CFP contender Clemson 34-3. 

They played Alabama, fell behind big time in the first half, then roared back only to lose at the very end.  The same Alabama team that looks like it will make the playoffs again (oof).  

They played a 9-win, good Ole Miss team and lost.  

Texas is #2 overall in total defense in NCAA.  I didn't realize they were that good.  I knew they were decent this year, I had no idea they were that elite.  Ohio State is #1, ND #3 and Ole Miss #4.  

Ga surprisingly is not in the Top Ten in total defense.  In fact, they're not even in the top 20.  Their defense charts closer to A&M's.  




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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2024, 09:57:04 AM »
I think there's a lot to be said about how Texas should have dominated some games by much more than the score showed, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.  They should have won the A&M game by much more than 10 points.  I'm still surprised that they held our offense scoreless in that game, and then I'm even more surprised that our defense held them scoreless in the 2nd half after giving up 17 points quite easily.  I really don't closely follow Texas' running game, but they ran the ball really well against us, especially in the first half.  We had them 3rd and long several times and they picked up the first down and more just by running the ball, it was so frustrating to watch.  

All this analysis said, I think Georgia, when they play their A game, is the better team. The problem is they spend much of the time being the C or B team.  Texas is a much more consistent team.  

I wonder if the game being in Atlanta will be favorable for Georgia?  They've been there a bunch, including last season, and they should have plenty of home fans in attendance.  I expect Texas fans will travel well too.  

I honestly think Kirby out-schemed Texas in the first game, and I don't think that will happen again.  I think Texas will easily win this game, 35-17 ish.  

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2024, 10:12:24 AM »
I'm honestly not expecting many Texas fans to make the trip to Atlanta.  At this point, Texas is already pretty much guaranteed to be in the playoffs, win or lose.  The folks I know are saving their money for playoff games.

I expect this to become more common as the years go on.  I won't be at all surprised to see half-empty stadiums for CCGs as the norm.

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2024, 10:40:07 AM »
How sad about the CCGs. 

As for UGA in ATL in the SECCG, in my experience--and we've met them there several times over the past couple of decades--if they're not the better team, their crowd advantage and less distance traveled does not translate to game advantage.  When they're not the better team, they don't win.  If they are, they do. 

As for the comparisons, you kind of have to throw out the UF for data points.  UF had no QB when they played UT, they did vs. UGA.  Not really the same team.  

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Re: Georgia vs. Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2024, 11:52:40 AM »
Kentucky this season had a very salty defense. They preferred to run the clock and take their chances in low scoring games. Georgia, like several other SEC teams, is prone to offensive power failures. Against UK, Beck was cross-eyed. He gave Kentucky a chance by stalling the UGA offense.
Obvious that Florida is a different team with DJ Lagway. He went out in the 2nd half of the UGA game, and the results showed immediately. Texas was the beneficiary of that injury.
Bama goes as Milroe goes. For all his athletic gifts, he's still a youngster that doesn't know how to change game momentum. Bama needs a "Plan B" for when things aren't on track.
Texas certainly needs to be committed to better offensive play, but the defense sets the tone. The Longhorns basically feel like a 17 point lead wins the game. I'm not pretending like their 2nd half failures are planned, calculated, or acceptable, but there's a certain understanding of not putting the game in jeopardy needlessly by that point. Most of this season's opponent scoring occurred when the Texas offense helped out by shortening the field themselves.

A game where we see "good Beck" and "good Ewers" could be entertaining. We may have two more chances this season.

 

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