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OrangeAfroMan

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Florida's Next HC
« on: September 17, 2024, 10:03:27 PM »
Ideas?

My number 1 choice would be Lane Kiffin.  Stop with the G5 hotshot nonsense.  If we're FLORIDA, then get a name guy.  Let's score some points and if he can get Ole Miss as a top 10 team, Florida would be a walk.

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2024, 10:05:01 PM »
I believe Charlie Strong is available.

But yeah Joey Freshwater would do well at Florida.

With the coeds, I mean.

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2024, 10:16:02 PM »
I’m rather partial to Sunbelt Billy.

But, when he is canned in 3 weeks, I go after Alex Golesh. 

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2024, 10:20:23 PM »
Jesus. Do you think Kiffin would jump again ?  You’d think maybe he’s got something going at Ol Miss. 

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2024, 08:12:44 AM »
i know the UF guys are salivating over the prospect of Kiffin, but... what's in it for him?  If he takes Ole Miss to the promised land of perineal power, and it sure looks like he can, he would be a legend and set for life- he stands a chance of getting a state holiday in his name... at florida, he's just another in the line and one bad season from unemployment... he'd be stupid to go to gainsville.   

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2024, 01:05:47 PM »
i know the UF guys are salivating over the prospect of Kiffin, but... what's in it for him?  If he takes Ole Miss to the promised land of perineal power, and it sure looks like he can, he would be a legend and set for life- he stands a chance of getting a state holiday in his name... at florida, he's just another in the line and one bad season from unemployment... he'd be stupid to go to gainsville. 
I don't really know the culture behind Ole Miss/Mississippi (as in the state, not MSU) versus Florida.  Obviously, Florida has a much bigger upside, and I consider them to be a 21st century Blue Blood.  But when you peel away all the bull-shit, what would be stopping Ole Miss from winning?  Being in the SEC, I would almost say that money isn't one of them, but I don't know about their NIL or alumnus generosity.  I'd have to imagine there would be several rich and powerful alumnus associated with OM that would be willing to open the checkbook for the right program.  

Coming from Texas (the state, not the U), I have not spent much if any time East of the Mississippi river.  Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, they all appear very similar to me in terms of geography.  Florida to me has a much bigger population and lots of recruits.  I've seen it posted around these parts that Louisiana and Mississippi have the most DI recruits or a lot of DI recruits (and NFL players) among a lot of states.  

I vaguely recall that OM stadium is not that large compared to Alabama or Georgia.  What about student body size, fanbase, what separates somebody like Bama from OM? 


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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2024, 01:12:00 PM »
I don't really know the culture behind Ole Miss/Mississippi (as in the state, not MSU) versus Florida.  Obviously, Florida has a much bigger upside, and I consider them to be a 21st century Blue Blood.  But when you peel away all the bull-shit, what would be stopping Ole Miss from winning?  Being in the SEC, I would almost say that money isn't one of them, but I don't know about their NIL or alumnus generosity.  I'd have to imagine there would be several rich and powerful alumnus associated with OM that would be willing to open the checkbook for the right program. 

Coming from Texas (the state, not the U), I have not spent much if any time East of the Mississippi river.  Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, they all appear very similar to me in terms of geography.  Florida to me has a much bigger population and lots of recruits.  I've seen it posted around these parts that Louisiana and Mississippi have the most DI recruits or a lot of DI recruits (and NFL players) among a lot of states. 

I vaguely recall that OM stadium is not that large compared to Alabama or Georgia.  What about student body size, fanbase, what separates somebody like Bama from OM?



I'll go the short route here.....

You know how A&M or the Longhorns think of Texas Tech, Or TCU?

That's how we (SEC Big Boys) view Ole Miss.  

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2024, 01:27:36 PM »
I'll go the short route here.....

You know how A&M or the Longhorns think of Texas Tech, Or TCU?

That's how we (SEC Big Boys) view Ole Miss. 
I think you FAR overestimate Tech.  TCU, on the other hand, has a little history behind it for a small private Christian university.  

Texas Tech is just straight up trash, they've never even won a conference championship (SWC, B12, or New-=B12).  

OM isn't quite that bad.  They have some history, won the SEC/MNC in the 60's, the whole Manning vibe, it's considered a good venue for a football game.  

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2024, 01:43:58 PM »
I think you FAR overestimate Tech.  TCU, on the other hand, has a little history behind it for a small private Christian university. 

Texas Tech is just straight up trash, they've never even won a conference championship (SWC, B12, or New-=B12). 

OM isn't quite that bad.  They have some history, won the SEC/MNC in the 60's, the whole Manning vibe, it's considered a good venue for a football game. 

It's considered a good venue for tailgating, sure, but it is a mini-stadium by SEC standards, with no uniqueness, or Gameday traditions.  

There's just "The Grove", which gets a lot of fanfare.  There are probably more folks sitting outside the stadium watching the game, than inside, because the experience is better.  LOL


Admittedly, I don't really know how you guys view the other Texas schools, and applied my own perception, which is --- small time, nobodies.

Nevertheless, SEC folks view Ole Miss as a minor nuisance on occasion.  




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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2024, 02:24:29 PM »
lane kiffin

i would call matt rhule if i were them. i think he's great.

eli drinkwitz - he wanted out a couple yrs ago (allegedly but i believe it). that said he's basically running the school rn & has gotten everything he's asked for & is thus pretty happy there rn - but it's fla. i believe he'd take the job but it isn't like i know the man & he couldn't be in a better situation in terms of control - he ran the last ad out of town & had a hand in her replacement. mizzou would fight to keep him (board of curators loves him) & he'd cost a pretty penny but fla doesn't care about that, pretty sure his buyout is modest too.

jamey chadwell

maybe one of the big12 or acc guys due to league instability in addition to it being fla - leipold doesn't seem like a fit but i'm pretty sure he wants out of ku & he's done a good job there so you never know.

klienman - idk, another good coach but not really a fit imo - i see him as more a fit for iowa or wisconsin (if he's still there when it comes open next). he's supposedly tied to the ad at kst so that might be a package deal.

bill o'brien looks like he's turned boston college around in an instant. i like the way he calls a game. i think he'd do well at fla, he's from the north of course but the nfl pedigree would work there i think.

'bout all i got off the top of my head.

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2024, 03:37:47 PM »
It's considered a good venue for tailgating, sure, but it is a mini-stadium by SEC standards, with no uniqueness, or Gameday traditions. 

There's just "The Grove", which gets a lot of fanfare.  There are probably more folks sitting outside the stadium watching the game, than inside, because the experience is better.  LOL


Admittedly, I don't really know how you guys view the other Texas schools, and applied my own perception, which is --- small time, nobodies.

Nevertheless, SEC folks view Ole Miss as a minor nuisance on occasion. 





Tech and TCU:





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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2024, 04:42:50 PM »
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Admittedly, I don't really know how you guys view the other Texas schools, and applied my own perception, which is --- small time, nobodies.
99% of all the Aggies I know view Texas Tech and the other schools as a bunch of nobodies.  If you think A&M has done nothing, you're not really wrong, but TTech has really done NOTHING.  A&M has won 18 conference championships and 1-3 MNC (depends on whose counting).  Tech wasn't even in the SWC until maybe the 70's or something, and they never won either it or the Big 12.  I think they tied for the South Division once, the 2008 year where them and Texas and OU all tied. 


Lubbock is so far away for a lot of Texans that it's literally like driving 2-3 states away for everybody except people who live on the far West reaches of DFW.  It's about a 11-12 hour drive from my house to Lubbock to put it in perspective, and I live near Houston.  I'd guesstimate it's almost as far to drive there from Austin.  The landscape is horrendous, nothing but flatlands and irrigated crops as far as the eye can see, but not pretty like parts of the Midwest.  More like a brown dusty vastness. 

Academically, they offer a lot.  Law degrees, engineering, arts, a really good option for those looking to attend a big State University not named A&M or Texas.  I heard it's not hard to get in, so a lot of wanna be Texas and A&M people end up going there when they don't get in.  And they really seem to have a chip on their shoulder about it, and when either Texas or A&M visits there the crowd literally goes bonkers and really weird things happen there.  Look up the goal post incident from maybe 2002 or 2001 when A&M played there, and countless times Texas and OU have played there and lost under suspicious circumstances. 

The strange thing is that they had a really good thing going with Mike Leach, and he really had them on a different level, and they fired him for what I'd call stupid reasons. 

TCU and the rest (Baylor, SMU) have had a little history behind them at times.  Baylor has won several conference titles, as has TCU.  SMU is more infamous.  I still have no idea how they got themselves invited to the ACC, even in a diminished ACC. 

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2024, 04:48:05 PM »
On the flip side, I've witnessed and seen that the female students that go there are really beautiful, and maybe not so smart (stereotype I know).  Lot of daddy's money chicks, lot of frat boys, it can get very wild because you can party hard and maybe not flunk out like you would at a more academically challenging environment.  Obviously this doesn't apply to all, but I think the shoe fits.  

I'd bet it's a fabulous place to go to school if you don't mind the distance, and you can probably get a really good education there if you want it.  And I'd also be willing to bet that in a less competive Big 12 they will win their first Conference Championship soon.  

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Re: Florida's Next HC
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2024, 05:43:50 PM »
99% of all the Aggies I know view Texas Tech and the other schools as a bunch of nobodies.  If you think A&M has done nothing, you're not really wrong, but TTech has really done NOTHING.  A&M has won 18 conference championships and 1-3 MNC (depends on whose counting).  Tech wasn't even in the SWC until maybe the 70's or something, and they never won either it or the Big 12.  I think they tied for the South Division once, the 2008 year where them and Texas and OU all tied. 


Lubbock is so far away for a lot of Texans that it's literally like driving 2-3 states away for everybody except people who live on the far West reaches of DFW.  It's about a 11-12 hour drive from my house to Lubbock to put it in perspective, and I live near Houston.  I'd guesstimate it's almost as far to drive there from Austin.  The landscape is horrendous, nothing but flatlands and irrigated crops as far as the eye can see, but not pretty like parts of the Midwest.  More like a brown dusty vastness. 

Academically, they offer a lot.  Law degrees, engineering, arts, a really good option for those looking to attend a big State University not named A&M or Texas.  I heard it's not hard to get in, so a lot of wanna be Texas and A&M people end up going there when they don't get in.  And they really seem to have a chip on their shoulder about it, and when either Texas or A&M visits there the crowd literally goes bonkers and really weird things happen there.  Look up the goal post incident from maybe 2002 or 2001 when A&M played there, and countless times Texas and OU have played there and lost under suspicious circumstances. 

The strange thing is that they had a really good thing going with Mike Leach, and he really had them on a different level, and they fired him for what I'd call stupid reasons. 

TCU and the rest (Baylor, SMU) have had a little history behind them at times.  Baylor has won several conference titles, as has TCU.  SMU is more infamous.  I still have no idea how they got themselves invited to the ACC, even in a diminished ACC. 

My view of the Texas schools is:

There is A&M, and the Longhorns.  And who cares about the rest?

It just means more, amirite?  LOL

 

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