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Topic: 2024 SEC Preseason

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Cincydawg

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2024 SEC Preseason
« on: January 05, 2024, 03:01:47 PM »
Do you see a dark horse team for next season (a la Missouri this past year)?

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2024, 04:03:13 PM »
Do you see a dark horse team for next season (a la Missouri this past year)?

No dark horses, but I see some orange cows coming.

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2024, 05:36:44 PM »
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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2024, 03:06:37 AM »
There will be more than 1 tradition power that has a backward season.  These schedules are tough.
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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2024, 06:04:08 PM »
I guess I could see Ole Miss as a dark horse to win the conference and make a post-season run.  They won 11 games this year so they wouldn't exactly be coming out of nowhere, but 11 games is the most they've ever won and probably nobody expects them to exceed that.  They did well in the portal and the Ole Miss NIL Collective has its stuff together right now, so add that on top of an already-good team and they might exceed expectations.   

Obviously Alabama and Georgia are the perennial favorites for now, but that's why Ole Miss would be a dark horse.  

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2024, 06:10:38 AM »
Teams I think could win the SEC next year (this year) with a half decent outside shot of a chance aside from the Big 2:

Ole Miss
Missouri - have to include them I think
Tennessee
LSU
Texas
OU???

I don't think anybody else has more than a 0.1% shot.

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2024, 05:32:01 AM »
dude we aren't winning the league ever but we could have a similar yr & make the playoff b/c we return a lot & are currently doing pretty good in the portal.  if history is a teacher we'll slip some though.  we'll see.

it'll most likely be one of ala/tx/ga/tenn. nico looked the part in their bowl. 

lsu has to replace jd & fix their defense.....they just hired our dc who did a good job here so we have to replace a key assistant & of course there could be more movement.  nussmeier played well in their bowl but wisc was ordinary.

idk what to do with okla....i don't think much of venables & think they'll be moving on sooner than later but obv they have to be taken seriously in a broader sense. 

not sure what ole miss has coming back (?).  this will be a good topic to revisit after the spring & more portal movement etc to see what we all think.

the other powers have a lot of questions to answer or so it seems at the moment.

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2024, 09:41:56 AM »
We had The Purple Wedding at LSU the other day with the defensive coaching staff (GoT reference, since many probably won't understand that). 

Hired Missouri's DC, who coached LBs at LSU in 2021.  Honestly not who I was hoping for, but it's not like we were going to get the people on my short wish-list, and when you wait until now to make moves, the hiring pool of coaches is pretty shallow.  Definitely not a "splashy" hire, but the positive is I figure he literally can't be worse than what we had this year. 

Remains to be seen who we'll go after for position coaches.  I think the rumors are pretty well confirmed now that we're interested in pulling Texas' DL coach, Bo Davis.  Doesn't appear that Davis is interested however, and that likely won't happen. 

Also rumors about bringing Corey Raymond home to coach DBs, and it's no secret Raymond wants to come back to BR.  While he was the best DB coach in the nation for a long stretch, imo, and produced multiple high NFL picks and recruits extremely well, I have to note his final two years at LSU (2020 and 2021) began the dropoff on defense and the secondary was as much to blame as anyone.  Which resulted in him not being retained by Kelly.  He went to Florida, where DBs have also struggled under his watch.  Corey-Raymond-Prime....I'm all in.  Is he the same coach he used to be?  I'm not sure, and so I don't know how I feel about bringing him home. 

Switching to a related topic....how common is it for the board to have to approve contracts?  Especially for position coaches.  We might have lost OC Denbrock anyway, since Notre Dame puts him so much closer to family and he has more history with coaches there than he has with Kelly.  But LSU offered him an extension, which he agreed to, but then LSU f'd around and never actually put it in front of him to sign.  We're told that the Board of Regents had to sign off (literally) on the contract and they couldn't be bothered to stop their Thanksgiving-thru-New-Year's revelries long enough to meet and complete the paperwork.  Notre Dame swooped in with a more tangible offer, signed and ready, waved it in his face, and he signed it and hit the road.  I would've thought an Athletic Director's approval is all you need for a new contract for a position coach.  Is this how it works at your school?  Many are the times I've found out that Louisiana's political shenanigans cause unique red tape situations at LSU, and I'm wondering if this is one of them.  It's possible the Board just cost us a great OC, and I can't imagine it's sitting well with Kelly, or even the AD, who took all the steps they could to retain the guy. 

Will be a very different looking staff next year.  We'll see how it goes.  

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2024, 09:55:55 AM »
yes but it's usually a formality - or it's supposed to be anyway.  if the ad & board aren't on the same pg chaos ensues.  which is exactly what happened during our last football coaching search when our ad at the time brought 3 turds to the board - someone on that board leaked the names to the press & then our board essentially went out & hired eli.  needless to say that ad moved on later that yr.  it was a circus.

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2024, 10:06:36 AM »
When an athletic department financially operates completely independently from the university, it makes no sense to me why the AD can't control his own budget and approve contracts.  

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2024, 11:06:34 AM »
Well now that the football season is officially over... how's it going, my SEC brethren?

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2024, 11:19:48 AM »
Welcome.

We should probably get the hazing out of the way, so you and the OU fans can start cleaning the toilets and buying our beer.  

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2024, 04:53:12 PM »
Well now that the football season is officially over... how's it going, my SEC brethren?

Feeling like 'it just means more' yet?

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Re: 2024 SEC Preseason
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2024, 10:09:42 AM »
Welcome.

We should probably get the hazing out of the way, so you and the OU fans can start cleaning the toilets and buying our beer. 
No problems, we'll have our servants take care of all that jazz.  What's next?

Feeling like 'it just means more' yet?

You better believe it.  I even tried on a "Texas didn't want to be in the Sugar Bowl" for size.  It didn't feel quite right just yet, but I'm sure I'll grow accustomed to it!

 

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