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Topic: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2019, 03:12:28 PM »

You can still find rooms on the Strip for not too much;


Doubletree for $50 or so, watch for the added fees though.
That's no joke. 
Headed to Vegas in June this year. Got a deal at the Bellagio for 3 nights. But when you add in the "resort fees" and local taxes, you get an extra $200 on the bill. 
I've stayed in another hotel down there that doesn't even have a casino, but of course they have "resort fees". 
They'll still find their ways to soak you.
I liken it to a lot of these airlines that advertise low flight rates, but that's only if you fly naked, without luggage, and sit on the wing. If you want an actual seat with your fare, or to carry a backpack, you're going to be opening your wallet. 

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2019, 03:22:03 PM »
The "resort fees" do get you a bottle of water each night.

It's a thing that can wave if you do certain things.

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2019, 03:26:39 PM »
I liken it to a lot of these airlines that advertise low flight rates, but that's only if you fly naked, without luggage, and sit on the wing. If you want an actual seat with your fare, or to carry a backpack, you're going to be opening your wallet.
LoL, so true.  

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2019, 03:47:12 PM »
So, this bowl would probably be a 7-5 team playing an 8-4 team, usually?  Miss State vs Iowa?

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2019, 04:08:35 PM »
So, this bowl would probably be a 7-5 team playing an 8-4 team, usually?  Miss State vs Iowa?
There will not be B1G vs. SEC in this bowl. It's PAC vs. B1G or SEC. 

So, likely a 10-2/9-3 PAC team vs. an 8-4/7-5 B1G or SEC team. It's the PAC's #3 bowl game.
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2019, 04:11:32 PM »
FYI the last time I was in Vegas we ended up at a hotel called the Vdara. It's right near the strip--they have a covered walkway over to the Bellagio, so the location was right. I got a decent deal on price--all things considered [i.e. Vegas on the weekends near the strip isn't cheap anywhere, and valet/resort fees jacked it even further].

The hotel doesn't have a casino, so you don't have all-night loud craziness going on. In fact, on a Friday and Saturday night, we were able to sleep comfortably without any interruptions. It's a smoke-free property, so there's no odor permeating the ground floor, the hallways, and certainly not the rooms. The rooms were ample-sized, nice and modern, with a little kitchenette, and a nice bathroom. On the main floor there was a little restaurant and bar, a market, a Starbucks, and all the usual amenities of a nice hotel. 

In general, I found it a much nicer way to do Vegas than to stay at one of the casinos. It seemed more like the kind of place that someone that was in on business or who was an entertainer in residence would stay. 

I was considering it again for my upcoming trip in June, but ended up finding the better deal at the Bellagio and figured you can't exactly go wrong there.

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2019, 04:53:13 PM »
Ah, I missed that.  I'd like to play Pac teams more often than we do.  UGA has a one and done slated with Oregon in ATL in a couple or three.


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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2019, 06:16:55 PM »
Vegas is way overdue for a bowl upgrade and I'm glad they aren't wasting anytime once the new stadium is in place. For anyone that's been to a Vegas Bowl or attended a UNLV game, the current stadium is the dumpiest college venue I've stepped in. It wasn't a strong enough reason to excuse myself away for another Vegas trip until this new stadium came along. Not only is the current venue a dump but it's WAY out of the way. The new location is a walk or short shuttle trip from the Mandalay Bay side of the Strip.

Rumor has it the Pac 12 wanted to send their #2 tie in there but allowed the Alamo to keep the tie because they didn't want to lock in the loser of the Pac 12 Championship game, which will also be played there (another reason!).

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2019, 06:27:34 PM »
So if this straight-up replaces the Holiday Bowl tie-in, then it should be the third B1G team after the NY6 games, right?  

As I understand it (after the NY6):
  • Citrus:  Last year 9-3/6-3 PSU
  • Outback:  Last year 8-4/5-4 Iowa
  • Holiday:  Last year 8-5/8-1 Northwestern

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2019, 07:01:12 PM »
There will not be B1G vs. SEC in this bowl. It's PAC vs. B1G or SEC.

So, likely a 10-2/9-3 PAC team vs. an 8-4/7-5 B1G or SEC team. It's the PAC's #3 bowl game.
I was assuming/hoping with the fancy new venue, this would become a bigger bowl, maybe take the place of the Outback in terms of payout, and be a good/attractive/big game, SEC vs PAC, straight up.  
Oh well.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2019, 07:31:39 PM »
It can get there if they do it right. The Fiesta was a WACo bowl when it started (generally for UofA and ASU, since they were the primo teams, although BYU and I think Wyoming played there too). Then it became a major player, and finally a BCS game. Now it's a NYD6 and Playoff Spot. Vegas could get to that level, or a rung below. There's enough money in Vegas to make it go.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2019, 09:25:20 AM »
A bowl with a good location, a new stadium, and bags of money can become a BIG bowl in a hurry, witness Fiesta and Peach.

The number of BIG bowls now is a bit crowded, so it gets competitive.

Fiesta  Peach  Rose  Cotton  Sugar  Orange  

The NC game can be anywhere, in addition to those 6 locations.

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2019, 10:38:57 AM »
Of interest is that only one of those stadiums is not an NFL variety.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2019, 11:14:07 AM »
I think only one has never changed venue either, right?

The others move as more modern stadia are built.  The Peach has moved three times.  It may have even been played at Grant Field once, I don't know.

The Sugar Bowl was played in Atlanta once.

 

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