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ELA

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2019 NFL Draft
« on: March 03, 2019, 04:01:43 PM »
Montez Sweat just locked up his high draft status with the best 40 time for a DL in combine history.

Oh, if only him and Craig Evans hadn't been such knuckleheads, last year's DL could have been historically good.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2019, 07:00:09 PM »
If Craig Evans wasn't a knucklehead, he'd have been a Badger.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 12:54:34 PM »
Jamel Dean, who ended up a two-year starter at Auburn, ran a 4.31. 

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2019, 11:07:48 PM »
Handful of Big Ten CBs made themselves some money today

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 10:56:51 AM »
Devin Bush, Rashan Gary, and Chase Winovich tested off the charts. Bush and Gary locked themselves into the 1st round and Winovich may have snuck himself into the late 1st.

Gary checked in at 6’4 1/2 and 277 lbs and ripped off a ridiculous 4.58 in the 40 and put up a 38” vertical and a 120” broad jump. All the best times for players listed as DL at the combine. 

Devin Bush checked in at 5’11 and 234 lbs and ran a 4.43 in the 40 and put up a 40.5” vertical and a 124” broad jump. 

Chase Winovich checked in at 6’3 and 256 lbs and ran the 4th fastest time for a player listed as an EDGE defender with a 4.59 in the 40. Winovich measured a legit 6’3+ and really close to 260 lbs and ran under 4.6. Big deal for him as some questioned his true size and what kind of speed he brought to the table. 

I think Gary probably goes in the top 5-10. Bush in that 15-25 range, and now there’s a real chance you see Winovich get taken at the bottom of the 1st round. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the Pats take him at 32.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2019, 12:24:06 PM »
Jamel Dean, who ended up a two-year starter at Auburn, ran a 4.31.
I think that's guy who was at Ohio St but transferred with a bad knee?After he verballed to tOSU as a H.S.JR. he injured his knee twice.Then again when he got to Auburn - I think that's him.Just looked him up ya that's him

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2019/03/102833/after-being-medically-disqualified-by-ohio-state-jamel-dean-bounced-back-at-auburn-to-become-an-nfl-prospect
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 07:58:05 AM »
I think that's guy who was at Ohio St but transferred with a bad knee?After he verballed to tOSU as a H.S.JR. he injured his knee twice.Then again when he got to Auburn - I think that's him.Just looked him up ya that's him

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2019/03/102833/after-being-medically-disqualified-by-ohio-state-jamel-dean-bounced-back-at-auburn-to-become-an-nfl-prospect
Yep. If I recall, he was a centerpiece of one of my favorite UM-OSU kerfuffles.  

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2019, 09:51:39 AM »
HA!Yes it was,right after taking it on the chin from "M" websites and fans he unfortunately injured the knee again.All this after he got cleared to play by that ALL-WORLD Surgeon/Sports Doctor saying he was fine.Oh ya plenty of ammo in both camps.Wish we had the archives.Good on him to not only come back but to excel,no one saw that coming
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2019, 01:35:47 PM »
really don't get all the Kyler Murray going #1 overall hype. Yeah he measured 5'10". So what. He's got short arms and small hands and he looks small. He's not built like Russell Wilson. Wilson looked like a MAN day one in the NFL. Murray still looks like a little boy. He's smallish. Not sure he has the arm strength of Russell Wilson either. Everyone always wants to compare a 5'10 QB to Russell Wilson. He's the exception, not the rule. Just because he's succeeded in the NFL, doesn't mean Kyler Murray will. Wilson went in the 3rd round by the way, he wasn't the #1 pick let alone a 1st rounder.

Yeah, Murray is a great college QB in a great system playing for maybe the best offensive mind in CFB- but he also plays in a leauge that plays zero defense and is designed for stat padding. Not knocking Murray, he's a great college player but that doesn't mean he'll be a great NFL player. He has real physical limitations. Not sure he's worth a 1st round pick let alone the #1 pick.

Cardinals would be much better off trading down and stock-piling picks or just going with the surest bet- Nick Bosa- and pair him up with Chandler Jones to establish a wicked pass rush tandem. That'd instantly make them a better team and Bosa is a 10 year starter at a Pro Bowl level barring injury and off-field. He's as plug and play as there is in any draft. Sure thing.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2019, 01:46:25 PM »
Yeah, I still don't like him more than Haskins, and certainly not #1 overall, particularly when you just took one last year.  Go take Bosa or Williams, and you'll have more pieces when you find a QB worth drafting high, as you'll probably be right back there again next year.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2019, 01:54:28 PM »
I agree regarding Murray,perhaps it's just the media rubes bumping their gums.Was watching Pro Football Talk with Mike Florio and Chris Simms - they brought this up and it appears Simms is sold on Murray.Probably why he isn't employed as a NFL Scout.I look at Murray as more of a Cordell Stewart type hybrid.These guys never learn.Shit I really don't think Murray should be tapped in the 1st round.More like a Pat White type career.Sure he might make waves his 1st season or two,but after that those big hits on his small frame will take it's toll.Use him like Slash or in the flanker/H-Back mold.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2019, 01:56:22 PM »
Before we turn him into a poop sandwich, keep in mind:
he had the best yards per attempt in history
he had the 2nd best rating in history
while rushing for 1,001 yards

And if you believe in Baker Mayfield, Murray did it on the same team in the same offense against the same competition (largely).  
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2019, 02:07:57 PM »
I'd be shocked if Murray is playing QB in the NFL in 5 yrs SHOCKED.He's built more along the lines of Johnny Football than Mayfield/Brees/Wilson - those guys are more stoudt.I believed as a Browns fan that Manziel would fail and IMO Murray may hang around as a back up,not grinding it out every season
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2019, 05:55:01 PM »
Manziel's case was odd - even in the 21st century, a player can fail to produce what you want to see on film and have it all be thrown out in the name of on-field intangibles.  He's scramble around the lob the ball 40 yards downfield, where his 6'3" WRs would bail him out, over and over again.   Scouts knew this and were ignored (by some teams).  His arm was fine but his decision-making was crappola.
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