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TREX

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What's wrong with Virginia?
« on: February 08, 2019, 12:14:18 PM »

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QUIZ: What's with Virginia?  ANSWER: In 1970, only one out of every 100 Virginians was foreign-born. By 2012, one in nine Virginians was foreign-born.



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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 12:52:20 PM »
11% seems really high to me.


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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 01:22:05 PM »
Maybe they made a mistake in 2012 and thought Pennsylvanian Avenue was in Virginia?

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 01:34:42 PM »
Mark Levin says that northern Virginia has been over run with progressive liberal lunatics that work in DC but run from the politics they've created for DC. Sort of like Californians that are leaving the state in droves because the hen has finally come home to roost and the burden is too much form them to bear. Yet they're too ignorant to realize this so they try again in other states under the impression that what they created in California was simply a fluke and the lunatic policies only need to be tweaked to make it to Utopia. 

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 02:08:18 PM »
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 02:50:20 PM »
11% seems really high to me.


Go hang out in Alexandria and you'd guess 50%.  No kidding. 

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 03:47:31 PM »
Go hang out in Alexandria and you'd guess 50%.  No kidding.
Same with Philly, Scranton, Hazelton, Harrisburg..... here in Pa
You can go into Walmart in Hazelton and not hear a word of English
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 04:05:09 PM »
Go hang out in Alexandria and you'd guess 50%.  No kidding.
Yes, for sure, but a lot of Virginia is country.  And you have Richmond and Norfolk and whatnot.
We go up to Alexandria once a year or so for reasons you know about.

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 04:44:00 PM »
We say their names every year, at several points.  I was astounded by the town Alexandria has become.  From everywhere, not just one or two different countries.  I felt like I was in Prague or somewhere- once when sitting idle in a courtyard with a friend and a cigar, i think we counted something like 9 languages we could discern walking past.  

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 04:48:53 PM »
Yeah we pass folks speaking a lot of languages here as well.  We were out to lunch and the wife noted one table with a black dude, an Asian gal, a Hispanic dude, and a white dude, and several other tables were very mixed with some foreign languages sprinkled in, and we walk a lot and hear a lot of languages as well, some we don't recognize.

Most of them may be foreign born, and some of them are likely US citizens, like my wife.

Those who long for an almost entirely homogeneous WASP population won't like how the nation is changing.  Of course, the nation has changed often in the past, a century ago and more because of immigration.  There was a time when the WASP population feared the influx of Catholics from Europe as a grave threat.

Some may know nothing about that of course.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 04:50:54 PM »
Headline in the WashPO just now:


A second woman accuses Va. Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of sexual assault
Meredith Watson said Fairfax raped her when the two were Duke undergraduates in 2000. A


Cincydawg

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 04:52:02 PM »
Same in the NYT:

Second Woman Accuses Virginia Lieutenant Governor of Sexual Assault

Breaking1m ago




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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 04:55:27 PM »
Yeah we pass folks speaking a lot of languages here as well.  We were out to lunch and the wife noted one table with a black dude, an Asian gal, a Hispanic dude, and a white dude, and several other tables were very mixed with some foreign languages sprinkled in, and we walk a lot and hear a lot of languages as well, some we don't recognize.

Most of them may be foreign born, and some of them are likely US citizens, like my wife.

Those who long for an almost entirely homogeneous WASP population won't like how the nation is changing.  Of course, the nation has changed often in the past, a century ago and more because of immigration.  There was a time when the WASP population feared the influx of Catholics from Europe as a grave threat.

Some may know nothing about that of course.
My wife being from here and there were a lot of immigrants and me being from Oak Ridge (at one time a international city) are use to immigrants speaking other languages. However they worked to learn ours and assimilate. That is not what is occurring.
A lot of people here are not here legally. Likewise with some of the other cities 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 04:58:35 PM »
I have no way of knowing whether a person is here legally or not.  My guess is they tend to be more concentrated in places like Texas and Arizona and California, and in some larger cities.

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2019, 05:01:34 PM »
the Klan 'revised' (reorganized, early 20th century) was as much opposed to Catholic as they were Blacks.  

then, strange things happen- the Irish and Scottish made communities.. The Scandinavian's did the same... German's, French, Italian, Greek, Turkish..... et al... and they made extreme effort to assimilate into America's culture or became America's culture... 

the thing i think many don't consider is the region's were once vastly more different than they are now- foods, music, dress, speech, values and traditions.... we've kinda shoved them in the same cookie cutter now and we're pissed it doesn't work.  "Contract with Society" and "Noble Savage" and all that jazz... 

the next thing about it is discrimination is FAR from an American Institution.  Try being Mexican in Puerto Rico.. Try being Black, even if from a Muslim country in on of the Middle Eastern Kingdoms (Arab's are THE most racists  people on the planet)... Maybe being Greek in Italy or Chinese in Japan.  Hell, the only free pass i know of is Canadian anywhere.   

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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2019, 05:07:59 PM »
Same in the NYT:

Second Woman Accuses Virginia Lieutenant Governor of Sexual Assault

Breaking1m ago

It has to be Trump's fault....Wait and see.




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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2019, 05:14:02 PM »
I have no way of knowing whether a person is here legally or not.  My guess is they tend to be more concentrated in places like Texas and Arizona and California, and in some larger cities.
They went here to town who were forced to take them, the Roman Catholic Church busing them in (from the damned border) , family members already here and their family and friends having them journey here etc.
Here it has been reported multiple times by the press, reports of arrest, ICE and other agencies reporting on large populations in the area, etc. The strain on the resources is tremendous as they are paying nothing for many govt. perks like takes to pay for  schools, car wrecks/traffic violations/arrested in drug crackdowns/etc and then that is reported.
If you want to fool yourself and think it is only a border state problem and do not pay any attention to the sheer numbers that enter illegally each day, (Talk to some people in the Border Patrol) and think the population of those increase by almost 10k per a week I have a bridge for sale. We do have a crises at the border and it is infesting the rest of the country.
No one I know has anything against illegal immigration, in fact most of the people I know families legally came here and that covers a range from janitors to professors at MIT. 
 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2019, 05:17:08 PM »
"No one I know has anything against illegal immigration, in fact most of the people I know families legally came here and that covers a range from janitors to professors at MIT. "

I presume you mean legal immigration in your sentence.  I still imagine they are more concentrated in border states and larger cities, the illegals.  "More concentrated" obviously means just what it says.

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 05:19:17 PM »
Headline in the WashPO just now:


A second woman accuses Va. Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of sexual assault
Meredith Watson said Fairfax raped her when the two were Duke undergraduates in 2000. A
I want to see an offer of proof before passing any thoughts. To often, as we have seen in the past, false accusations are made against those in power and the rage of the past few years has been to force people to resign, without proof and that is enabling more potential false accusations to be leveled.
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2019, 05:20:26 PM »
What could constitute "proof""?  These things are "she said/he said" unless they were committed recently and a rape kit can be done.


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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2019, 05:25:03 PM »
What could constitute "proof""?  These things are "she said/he said" unless they were committed recently and a rape kit can be done.
Creditable witnesses for one. 
Suspicion that it likely occurred, if she talked to creditable people about it afterwards is another that could be viewed as legitimate grounds to demand a resignation.
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2019, 07:29:12 PM »
We spent a couple days up at VA Beach back in 2013 and it felt like we were in an eastern European country. From the motel employees to cashiers and waitresses everyone of them had Slavic sounding accents.

One thing we all noticed in the far east was that the indigenous people didn't like blacks, especially the Japanese and S Koreans...

Back in 2002 we stayed at the Westin Atlanta and was very surprised at how many eastern European types worked there.... 

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 10:20:56 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321271/#respond


Related: Kevin Williamson on how “The Democrats’ new puritanism will lead to their undoing.”

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Northam must go
, as a matter of character. On that we have the word of such figures as Joe Biden, a plagiarist who once cited his ability to navigate the linguistic challenges of buying coffee at a 7-Eleven as evidence of his good relations with the Indian immigrant community; Terry McAuliffe, a former fixer for Bill Clinton; former Virginia governor Douglas Wilder, who once used a government airplane to pay a private visit to a former softcore porn actress he appointed as a university regent; Sen. Bernie Sanders, author of bizarre rape-fantasy political tracts; Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Cherokee impersonator; and Hillary Rodham Clinton, chief tactician of the “bimbo eruption” unit all those years ago.

If Northam goes, the governorship passes to his fellow Democrat Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax, who now faces impeachment as two women have come forward to accuse him of sexual misconduct — at the 2004 Democratic National Convention and at Duke University in 2000.

The Democrats, hot off insisting that mere accusations of misconduct — as a high-school student — were sufficient to keep Brett Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court, are thereby put in a pickle. They might turn to the third in line, Attorney General Mark R. Herring, also a Democrat — and also someone who recently acknowledged wearing blackface at a college party. That would bring the Dems to the fourth in line, House Speaker Kirk Cox, who insists he’s never donned the racist makeup. He is also a Republican.

As Sean Davis asked yesterday:


















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Re: What's wrong with Virginia?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2019, 01:26:21 AM »
New state tourism motto:
"Virginia is for loonies."

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2019, 07:07:31 AM »
Creditable witnesses for one.
Suspicion that it likely occurred, if she talked to creditable people about it afterwards is another that could be viewed as legitimate grounds to demand a resignation.

For obvious reasons, it's unlikely to have any credible witnesses to a possible rape event years ago, beyond the two involved.
If there are more than two involved, you could have one willing to come forward who likely would be incriminating himself.

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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 05:01:52 PM »
For obvious reasons, it's unlikely to have any credible witnesses to a possible rape event years ago, beyond the two involved.
If there are more than two involved, you could have one willing to come forward who likely would be incriminating himself.
Whatever you say OCDDawg
You asked a question and  answered, but as usual you had to quibble 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2019, 09:39:24 PM »
I want to see an offer of proof before passing any thoughts. To often, as we have seen in the past, false accusations are made against those in power and the rage of the past few years has been to force people to resign, without proof and that is enabling more potential false accusations to be leveled.
This particular accusation is getting stranger.   Now she is claiming she was also raped by a Duke basketball player, and told friends about it at the time, including Justin Fairfax.   That has to be a first, using a person that you are accusing of rape as a corroborating source for a prior rape.  I think any charges someone makes should be taken seriously, but bringing up two separate incidents from over 18 years ago now certainly raises a lot of questions about the accuser and her credibility.  
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25961918/duke-investigating-sexual-assault-allegation-made-former-basketball-player

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2019, 10:54:28 PM »
I thought all women were to be believed?

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2019, 11:11:41 PM »
I have no clue on Fairfax.
Let's investigate and if a trial is needed, let's have one.

Dems agree with this policy, but only when the accused is a Democrat.
They certainly didn't take that position in the case of Kavanaugh.


 

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