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fuzzynavol

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Welp, looks like Trump's wall is finally complete...
« on: January 10, 2019, 02:50:57 PM »

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Re: Welp, looks like Trump's wall is finally complete...
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 03:48:04 PM »

Why don't you tell the family of the cop in California and the family of the kid in Knoxville who were killed by illegal aliens how funny you think it is.

Hopefully the chickens will come home to roost for people like you.

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 03:56:41 PM »
I guess Fuzz is also opposed to the money in the bill that would hire 75 more judges to expedite immigrants and asylum seekers trying to get a court hearing.

Who cares about them.  Orange Man bad!


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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 06:42:41 PM »


Hopefully the chickens will come home to roost for people like you.
Well... That's not very Christian of you.

Edit:  It's totally "Old Testament God", but most Christians just choose to ignore that part of the Bible.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 07:39:03 PM »
Why can’t we just use thoughts and prayers to protect our borders? It’s what we use to protect our schools. 

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 09:43:47 PM »
I actually think Fuzz's picture is pretty funny and I'm all for funding the wall. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnns-jim-acosta-mocked-for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work

CNN’s Jim Acosta was mocked across social media on Thursday for posting a video that was meant to downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis -- but ended up supporting his argument that border barriers improve security.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 10:44:01 PM »
Why can’t we just use thoughts and prayers to protect our borders? It’s what we use to protect our schools.

Actually we now use metal detectors, walls and locked doors, along with a safety officer or two. Prayers were kicked out of our public schools some time ago.

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 08:51:31 AM »
Well... That's not very Christian of you.

Edit:  It's totally "Old Testament God", but most Christians just choose to ignore that part of the Bible.


It's very Chrsitian of me and it's New Testament.   Try reading up on a subject before commenting.


Luke: 6:38     " For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you."

Gallatians: 6:7   "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 09:18:36 AM »
Why can’t we just use thoughts and prayers to protect our borders? It’s what we use to protect our schools.
Scotchvol wins the thread.

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 09:21:14 AM »

It's very Chrsitian of me and it's New Testament.   Try reading up on a subject before commenting.


Luke: 6:38     " For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you."

Gallatians: 6:7   "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
I don't think those two versus mean what you think they do. The implication in those two verses is very Karma-esque, not a Christian wishing harm on somebody else.

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 11:15:00 AM »
I'd wet my pants if they ever let teacher go armed in order to provide more protection for the children  
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 11:16:04 AM »
So atheist once again dictating how Christians should behave and what Bible verses mean.

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 11:56:39 AM »
I don't think those two versus mean what you think they do. The implicationin those two verses is very Karma-esque, not a Christian wishing harm on somebody else.

How would you know what they mean you're not a Christian so it isn't for you to understand their meaning.

That's in the bible too.

1st Corinthians  2:14

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The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 12:38:18 PM »
How would you know what they mean you're not a Christian so it isn't for you to understand their meaning.

That's in the bible too.

1st Corinthians  2:14

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The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
 I was a christian for a long time and I don't recall "wishing harm on others" being encouraged.  Maybe Lutherans are just different; less spiteful.

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 02:20:53 PM »

People who are aginst building the wall are the ones wishing bad things happen to others and are aiding in those bad things happening for not wanting to seal our borders by allowing anyone into the country.

If you are one of those then you have blood on your hands because you are as guily for allowing murderers into the country as much as the person who did the killing

When people make fun of someone wanting to protect American citizens from criminal activity and being killed by illegal aliens then I have no sympathy for them.

The only way they will ever realize how serious it is will be when it comes to their door step.

Another little verse for you.


Hosea 8:7

For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind:


If you don't understand that then "What goes around comes around".

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 04:32:29 PM »
People who are aginst building the wall are the ones wishing bad things happen to others and are aiding in those bad things happening for not wanting to seal our borders by allowing anyone into the country.  If you are one of those then you have blood on your hands because you are as guily for allowing murderers into the country as much as the person who did the killing

A) A wall isn't going to stop all illegal immigration so, I guess you have to support a permanent military force on the border, 24/7, to not "have blood on your hands".  B) Your statement is a  horrifically ignorant statement from someone who doesn't understand the history of the United States.


When people make fun of someone wanting to protect American citizens from criminal activity and being killed by illegal aliens then I have no sympathy for them.

Who was Fuzzy making fun of?  Trump?

The only way they will ever realize how serious it is will be when it comes to their door step.

That may be true but, again, what kind of person WISHES it on somebody else?  It's just weird.

Another little verse for you.


Hosea 8:7

For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind:


If you don't understand that then "What goes around comes around".

Yes... people believe in some imaginary Karma non-sense, but it still has nothing to do with WISHING harm on someone.  

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 05:39:10 PM »
Actually we now use metal detectors, walls and locked doors, along with a safety officer or two. Prayers were kicked out of our public schools some time ago.
Scotch, you and Jim Acosta both stepped in it.   

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 06:33:11 PM »
Scotchvol wins the thread.
After further ciphering and what not, I’m not sure the thoughts and prayers plan would work for ‘murica. Those beaner people are some of the most religious people too. So they’re probably praying to get in safety. The dueling prayers would simply cancel each other out. 
Maybe, if we secretly add speaking in tongues, that may be just enough to keep those brown beaners out. 
Land mines should be on the table too. We’ve lost enough low paying jobs!!
Deuteronomy 10:18-19

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 07:14:05 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2019, 12:10:36 PM »
Let me double down on showing I am just another person with fuzzy ignorance 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 01:19:04 PM »
January 2017 - GOP majority 
January 2017 Wall not an emergency
February 2017 Wall not an emergency
March 2017 Wall not an emergency
April 2017 Wall not an emergency
May 2017 Wall not an emergency
June 2017 Wall not an emergency
July 2017 Wall not an emergency
August 2017 Wall not an emergency
 September 2017 Wall not an emergency
 October 2017 Wall not an emergency
 November 2017 Wall not an emergency
 December 2017 Wall not an emergency
 January 2018 Wall not an emergency
 February 2018 Wall not an emergency
March 2018 Wall not an emergency
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 June 2018 Wall not an emergency
 July 2018 Wall not an emergency
 August 2018 Wall not an emergency
 September 2018 Wall not an emergency
 October 2018 Wall not an emergency
November 2018 Wall not an emergency
 November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
 January 2019 EMERGENCY!!

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 06:11:49 PM »
He's been calling for it for a long time, but they've ignored him.
They're not ignoring him now, they're opposing him.
He can only get what he wants when he has leverage - he had none before....

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/mexico/2017/05/23/border-wall-funding-shrinks-trumps-2018-budget

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Mulvaney and other administration officials repeatedly cited $4.1 billion as the target for spending on a border wall through the end of 2018.

The 2017 supplemental budget request, he told reporters on March 15, "includes $1.5 billion for the wall this year....The $1.5 billion allows us to start that program. We come along with additional funding -- $2.6 [billion] -- in 2018.

"Donald Trump did not get all of the money that he wanted for the wall if you add up the 2017 and 2018 requests. That's a fair statement," he said, noting that Congress refused to grant the full request for the current year. "$4.1 billion is not available to us. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don't win as much."

"The president is serious about the wall and he's going to build a wall," he said, adding, "There's been no shift."

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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 06:36:49 PM »
Who's opposing him? He had a majority in the House and Senate for two years and did nothing about forcing the wall situation.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2019, 06:47:34 PM »
Who's opposing him? He had a majority in the House and Senate for two years and did nothing about forcing the wall situation.
To get anything through the Senate (except Judges) you need 60 votes to eliminate the filibuster. They have not had that.
Trump has badgered for a rule change but there has been none
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 07:04:51 PM »
Yep.
Republicans have 53 votes in Senate, but still can't get it passed.
Need 7 Dems to cross.


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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2019, 07:12:34 PM »
To get anything through the Senate (except Judges) you need 60 votes to eliminate the filibuster. They have not had that.
Trump has badgered for a rule change but there has been none
So.....why not try and see if they filibuste and for how long they filibuster?

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 07:13:20 PM »
Still kind of an amazing sequence:
1—Republicans have unified control of government for 2 years but don't even come close to passing a border wall, one of Trump's signature priorities.
2—Then they badly lose a midterm in which Trump's attempts to demonize immigrants fail (cont…) https://t.co/LiiQWlIsVp

3—As Dems are about to take over the House, Trump shuts down the government to demand a border wall. He later claims he has a mandate for the wall, stemming from the 2016 election, despite the midterm results and polls showing both the wall and the shutdown are highly unpopular.

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2019, 07:21:57 PM »
Still kind of an amazing sequence:
1—Republicans have unified control of government for 2 years but don't even come close to passing a border wall, one of Trump's signature priorities.

They can’t govern. Everything they touch, like Trump, dies. Trump is runnning the show like he did his casinos, right into the ground.
2—Then they badly lose a midterm in which Trump's attempts to demonize immigrants fail (cont…) https://t.co/LiiQWlIsVp
More people died from lettuce last year than immigrants.
3—As Dems are about to take over the House, Trump shuts down the government to demand a border wall. He later claims he has a mandate for the wall, stemming from the 2016 election, despite the midterm results and polls showing both the wall and the shutdown are highly unpopular.

They are distracting from what’s coming.



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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2019, 07:35:38 PM »
A majority of Democrats voted for it in 2006.
If their hatred of Trump wasn't so great, this would have passed easily.

Biden voted for it as did Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer and plenty of other Democrats.

What exactly are the Democrats proposals to prevent people from entering the country unimpeded?
I haven't heard any reasons.
And if you don't discourage it, you simply invite more to attempt to enter, putting them on an extremely dangerous journey.


https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00262

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Amends the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to direct the Secretary to provide at least two layers of reinforced fencing, installation of additional physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors extending: (1) from ten miles west of the Tecate, California, port of entry to ten miles east of the Tecate, California, port of entry; (2) from ten miles west of the Calexico, California, port of entry to five miles east of the Douglas, Arizona, port of entry (requiring installation of an interlocking surveillance camera system by May 30, 2007, and fence completion by May 30, 2008); (3) from five miles west of the Columbus, New Mexico, port of entry to ten miles east of El Paso, Texas; (4) from five miles northwest of the Del Rio, Texas, port of entry to five miles southeast of the Eagle Pass, Texas, port of entry; and (5) 15 miles northwest of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry to the Brownsville, Texas, port of entry (requiring fence completion from 15 miles northwest of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry to 15 southeast of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry by December 31, 2008).

States that if an area has an elevation grade exceeding 10% the Secretary may use other means to secure such area, including surveillance and barrier tools.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2019, 10:02:02 PM »
Quote from Scotchy:

They can’t govern. Everything they touch, like Trump, dies. Trump is runnning the show like he did his casinos, right into the ground.

Exactly where do you get your information Scotch?  The economy is going gangbusters now that it has the jackboot of communism off its neck.  Unemployment is down, most noticeably so among minorities.  A record number of Americans have jobs.  Food stamp/SNAP card usage is down significantly.  And despite the recent volatility, the stock market has had a great run.  So either you get your data from MSNBC and/or Occupy Democrats, or all that is bad news for the radical left.  

Also, despite the constant barrage of fake news from the MSM, Trump's popularity has remained about where Obama's was at this point in his presidency.  You probably don't remember that Obama lost the Senate, whereas Republicans maintained a majority.   

More people died from lettuce last year than immigrants.

I really can't fathom the imbecile that thinks we shouldn't enforce our immigration laws like every other sovereign nation does.  Drug-related deaths in this country outnumber traffic fatalities, and Mexico is a major source of opiates and fentanyl into this country.  Mexico is one of the world's largest centers in human trafficking, including child prostitution.  A lot of that traffic flows into the United States through openings in our border.   

They are distracting from what’s coming.

When?  You've been saying that for 2 years now.   Your entire post was nothing more than a display of leftwing ignorance.  


 

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