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Topic: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread

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MaximumSam

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2019, 11:50:56 AM »
I feel like Mattison was hails at brilliant when he starter, and then the shine wore off. Granted, being on this board for over a decade (lord), it seems as if every Michigan reset came with a wave of promise and then gradual slip.
LOL ain't that the truth.  I feel like people tend to overrate assistant coaches as some sort of magic men.  If Mattison just gets the defense to play sound football, he'll likely be hailed as a great messiah.  He's been coaching longer than I've been watching football, and he's had plenty of rough seasons.  But he was co-coordinator with Charlie Strong under the Urbs at Florida, in a setup that seems really similar to what they are doing now.  I was also impressed when he and Hoke took over for Rich Rod's team and turned them immediately into a competent defense.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2019, 01:07:33 PM »
Do not get the Mattison hire at all for Day.  Hope it works out for him the brief stay Mattison will likely have in C-Bus.  That guy is a Michigan Man from head to toe and it shocked me to see that he moved to Columbus for a title he pretty much already had in Ann Arbor.  Conflicting inof about he and Jimmy Football's relationship, but still skeptical about this hire. 

Washington moving is much more understandable, and not near the same type of hire.  Anything in that coaching slot was better than Davis and Johnson.  Would like to know know why Grinch bolted so fast, its not like his move to OU was a step up, more of a lateral move.  Day is making a huge change on the defensive side of the ball, he better hope his shake up yields immediate results or the natives in Buckeye Nation will show their fangs quick.

Good luck to Haskins, hope it works for him in the long run, not just the millions he will get in signing bonus.  I still do not see him starting immediately as a top 10 pick, and any team that tries to throw him in the mix early will only destroy his chances of success.  I would not be surprised if he is a 3 year prospect, but current NFL dollars do not wait that long, like Aaron Rogers was lucky to get, and he had way more college experience. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2019, 05:09:27 PM »
I say that because Fields committed to 3 different teams as a recruit, went to Georgia thinking he would just win the starting job despite Georgia having a really good young QB firmly entrenched in Jake Fromm, and as soon as he didn’t win it as a true frosh he decided to transfer.
He has zero shot in hell to get the waiver to play right away. His entire argument is a baseball player there called him the n word sometime in October and Fields was scared for his life. LOL. Well that baseball player was kicked off the team and out of school by Georgia basically immediately, and Fields stayed at Georgia all the way until a week ago. And his younger sister just enrolled at Georgia and is taking classes there.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Patterson showed that Ole Miss and specifically that dirtbag Hugh Freeze misled recruits about the sanctions and penalties. Patterson wasn’t the only kid to get an immediate playing time waiver. Every kid on that team who applied for it got it.
Fields has no argument for a waiver. None. Someone called me the N word and then that someone got kicked out of school, so hey NCAA, let me transfer halfway round the country and play right away please. NCAA will laugh him out of the building.
Yah, you be the guy/organization that says his racism case is week. We all know it is, but going on record saying that is a career ender. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2019, 10:24:28 PM »
OSU got two really good recruiters, that’s for sure. 

Mattison has kind of slowed down with age, he’s not on the road as much as he used to be, but he’s still a great recruiter. Who knows how much longer he’s got left in the tank. He is 70. But if OSU can get a few solid years out of him, it’s a great hire. 

As for Al Washington. He was in Ann Arbor for less than a year. Not sure how good of a coach he is or isn’t. The LB play honestly fell off with him. Khaleke Hudson absolutely regressed, Devin Gil and Josh Ross were both very up and down, and Devin Bush was his amazing self. Bush really didn’t get any worse or better, he just kinda stayed the same. All of this sort of leads me to believe he’s probably not the best LB coach.

Washington was a hell of a recruiter though. He will kill it recruiting at OSU. Next to Chris Partridge, OSU just poached Michigan’s second best recruiter in Washington.


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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2019, 11:44:10 PM »

Harbaugh picked a bad time to go on vacation. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2019, 11:53:29 PM »
Harbaugh picked a bad time to go on vacation.


Lol. True.
Jim is slacking.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2019, 09:10:04 AM »
I saw Ryan Day at Polaris yesterday. He was on his phone so I just gave him a head nod. (Or was faking being on his phone, so he didn't have to interact with obviously excited dad, and shake hands with his germy 5 year old. 😈 )

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2019, 09:23:17 AM »
OSU got two really good recruiters, that’s for sure.

Mattison has kind of slowed down with age, he’s not on the road as much as he used to be, but he’s still a great recruiter. Who knows how much longer he’s got left in the tank. He is 70. But if OSU can get a few solid years out of him, it’s a great hire.

As for Al Washington. He was in Ann Arbor for less than a year. Not sure how good of a coach he is or isn’t. The LB play honestly fell off with him. Khaleke Hudson absolutely regressed, Devin Gil and Josh Ross were both very up and down, and Devin Bush was his amazing self. Bush really didn’t get any worse or better, he just kinda stayed the same. All of this sort of leads me to believe he’s probably not the best LB coach.

Washington was a hell of a recruiter though. He will kill it recruiting at OSU. Next to Chris Partridge, OSU just poached Michigan’s second best recruiter in Washington.


I would be surprised if he stays more than two years.  He lives football, but is not a young coach any longer, and as I said is a Michigan Man which makes it even more strange that he would leave a position he was secure with to move to Columbus, to possibly finish out his coaching career.  Strange! 
 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2019, 09:30:37 AM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2019, 09:38:38 AM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block.
Man that sucks.  Been through that, too.  On the football side, though, I haven't been to a game in years and don't really miss it.  

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2019, 09:48:45 AM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block.
Sorry to hear that man

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2019, 10:10:45 AM »
It rarely works out between Wildcats and Shamrocks.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2019, 10:38:10 AM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block.
Damn. Been there 3 years ago. Two words: lawyer up. I wish I had. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2019, 11:34:58 AM »
That is too bad Ty, good luck!

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2019, 11:46:38 AM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block.
that sucks... sorry to hear that.

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« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2019, 11:49:15 AM »
Damn. Been there 3 years ago. Two words: lawyer up. I wish I had.

We have a family lawyer. I put into the separation contract, that if this leads to divorce he will represent my side.
And I will miss going to the games.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2019, 07:18:57 PM »
So, My Buckeye Season tickets appears to be in jeopardy (Season Ticket holder '93- '18.) The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend. Now this stay at home dad of 2, needs to figure out his finances, and it looks like sporting event tickets have peculated to the top of my chopping block.
Sorry to hear this.  It will get better.   Trust it.  
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« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2019, 08:09:50 PM »
Thanks for the well wishes guys.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2019, 10:40:51 PM »
The Mrs. Typhon moved out over the weekend.
Well I'm both happy and sad for you.Godspeed with the kids/situation
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« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2019, 10:45:23 PM »
And I will miss going to the games.
Well the SOC Thread has been a staple going back during saturdays in the season.Really starts cranking in Oct and can get quite lively
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2019, 10:26:16 AM »
I hope it wasn't the Chad Henne song at the breakfast table that finally did you in.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2019, 02:20:46 PM »
Tate Martell enters the NCAA transfer portal. Day probably told him flat out you’re going to be the 3rd guy in spring ball behind Baldwin and Fields imo.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2019, 02:27:40 PM »
Tate Martell enters the NCAA transfer portal. Day probably told him flat out you’re going to be the 3rd guy in spring ball behind Baldwin and Fields imo.
I don't know that he would say that.  If tate leaves and Fields isn't eligible, OSU will have a real thin time at quarterback.

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« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2019, 02:40:12 PM »
The Transfer Portal is my new favorite dumb phrase that the NCAA has bestowed upon us

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2019, 03:14:45 PM »
Tate Martell enters the NCAA transfer portal. Day probably told him flat out you’re going to be the 3rd guy in spring ball behind Baldwin and Fields imo.
Why would a coach basically tell a former top-60 recruit to just eff off? He's not a salty fan. He's a guy who wants to have access to lots of talented QBs.
In what world would this happen unless the kid was just a massive cancer? 

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« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2019, 03:29:46 PM »
Why would a coach basically tell a former top-60 recruit to just eff off? He's not a salty fan. He's a guy who wants to have access to lots of talented QBs.
In what world would this happen unless the kid was just a massive cancer?
Not sure Day would have said outright, kid-you will be third string at best.  Who knows, but he is not the type of QB I would see in Day's offensive scheme.  He did not impress last year with is arm in the Spring Game, and never really had a chance for playing time behind Haskins, which I found odd in a few of the blow games.  The mythical Red Zone scheme never was developed like Urban claimed and he has to get on the field this year, not much college time left for the kid.  The surprising thing was all the smack talk he was doing prior to Fields announcing, talking about he looks forward to competition and such-then tucks tail.  Just because he is entered, does not mean he is leaving, guess we have to wait and see if Day pulls his scholarship/Aide.

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« Reply #86 on: January 10, 2019, 04:12:52 PM »
Not sure Day would have said outright, kid-you will be third string at best.  Who knows, but he is not the type of QB I would see in Day's offensive scheme.  He did not impress last year with is arm in the Spring Game, and never really had a chance for playing time behind Haskins, which I found odd in a few of the blow games.  The mythical Red Zone scheme never was developed like Urban claimed and he has to get on the field this year, not much college time left for the kid.  The surprising thing was all the smack talk he was doing prior to Fields announcing, talking about he looks forward to competition and such-then tucks tail.  Just because he is entered, does not mean he is leaving, guess we have to wait and see if Day pulls his scholarship/Aide.
Three things
1. He played a good bit in those three early blowouts. His numbers were a bit better than Joe Burrow that one year. 
2. 90 percent of all "special run packages" are damn lies meant to slightly quiet fan complaints and maybe parent complaints. 
3. He won't pull the scholarship because the only value of that is being petty. If that was a risk, he'd tell the kid before all the paperwork got processed. Granted, Day has literally no upside in sending the kid packing unless they're short an early enrollee spot, just want him gone or said, "you're in or you're out." If the kid stays and tries to fight for the job and wins, it's a bonus, if not, he's gone anyway, and if he's a pain the ass, also gone. 

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #87 on: January 12, 2019, 09:39:26 PM »
Breaking down the jersey before 1934:

In the pre-Eckstrom era, 1890-98, they initially wore the baseball uniforms but switched after a few seasons to horizontally striped scarlet and grey rugby sweaters. The "grey stripe" on the sleeve was born. They burned through a lot of coaches with Fred Ryder being the most prominent one, coaching from 1892-95, as well as 1898. They were a middling program that mustered only one Conference title before the OIAA disbanded. They only played Michigan once, in 1897, and it was a loss. They went only 3-6 against Kenyon, who was their primary rival at the time.

John Eckstrom coached the team from 1899-1901, which was the pinnacle of the pre-Big Ten era. They had an iconic look with Red sweaters that had a block O on the front and long, horizontally striped scarlet and grey sleeves. This is the inspiration for the modern jersey obviously, only with a block letter instead of block numbers. They won two state titles, including an undefeated 1899 campaign, kicked off the annual Michigan series with a tie in 1900, and went 3-0 vs Kenyon, which kicked off a winning streak in that series that is technically still alive to this day.

OAC era: 1902-1912. They rolled through this era with the Eckstrom jerseys, albeit with the caveat that only one player had the block O on the front; presumably the QB or maybe the head captain. The era was somewhat disappointing after the Eckstrom administration. They went undefeated against Kenyon, but went winless against Michigan with the lone tie in 1910. They did manage to muster a pair of OAC titles in 1906 and 1912.

Dr John Wilce era: 1913-1928. The Buckeyes joined the Big Ten in 1913, and Wilce guided the buckeyes from then until 1928. The Eckstrom jersey was replaced with the "Chic Harley" look that had leather helmets and a Scarlet sweater with vertical Grey stripes across the front. The grey striping was removed from the sleeves entirely. They stuck with that look the entire time that Wilce was the coach, with zero modifications whatsoever. A lot of innovations in that era obviously. Big Ten, Ohio Stadium, the first two all Americans, the Illibuck Trophy, Senior Tackle, and so forth. The Michigan series was suspended from 13-17, but Wilce collected wins over them in 19, 20, 21, and 28. Big Ten Titles in 16, 17 and 20.

The era between Wilce and Schmidt: 1929 to 1933. They reverted back to the old Eckstrom look for the jerseys, initially with numbered jerseys in 1929, but with the numbers removed for the duration of that era. Sam Williman was the coach, and he did not fare well. Script Ohio became a thing in 1932, so there's that. He did manage to muster a pair of Michigan wins in 29 and 31. The striping on the sleeve was dialed back from being a sleeve made entirely out of grey stripes to one that had just a small band of stripes above the elbow, more like the modern look.


Okay, upon further inspection the jerseys were numbered during the Wilce era, just not on the front which was the only part visible on the team photos that I was examining. 

So they had numbers at least as long as they have been members of the Big Ten. I suppose that also opens up the possibility that the back of the jerseys were numbered before that as well. 
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2019, 11:23:29 AM »
Damn,that last picture - in the 'Shoe,goes back a stretch
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2019, 07:58:30 PM »
Sounds like Kendall Sheffield leaving for the NFL

 

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