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Topic: Major Applewhite out at U of H ?

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Re: Major Applewhite out at U of H ?
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2019, 01:10:13 PM »
Okaaaay, Gig’em.  I will give you this: you’re not the only person in this world who imagines SEC competition is superior.  

If OU loses to Iowa State the Sooners drop like a rock.  If Alabama loses to Ole Miss, Ole Miss vaults into the Top Ten.  This double standard without merit is irksome to say the least.
I’m truly bewildered by your post. I don’t believe the SEC competition is superior and have avoided pushing that agenda. In fact by pointing out that Arkansas and USC have never won it you pretty much said it, not me. I think that each conference has great teams and as exhibited by Clemson whipping Bama each conference has teams that compare to the very best. 
What I said was that I enjoy the matchups we have now better than most of the ones in the Big 12 and I specifically mentioned Baylor, TCU, Kansas, and Iowa State. 
Seriously Longhorn fans complaining about poll bias is up there with ND fans complaining about it. It mostly shakes out in the end. 

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« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2019, 01:40:50 PM »
Longhorn helmet fans CAN'T be complaining about poll bias after finishing in the top 10 with 4 losses
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« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2019, 03:22:57 PM »
I’m truly bewildered by your post. I don’t believe the SEC competition is superior and have avoided pushing that agenda. In fact by pointing out that Arkansas and USC have never won it you pretty much said it, not me. I think that each conference has great teams and as exhibited by Clemson whipping Bama each conference has teams that compare to the very best.
What I said was that I enjoy the matchups we have now better than most of the ones in the Big 12 and I specifically mentioned Baylor, TCU, Kansas, and Iowa State.
Seriously Longhorn fans complaining about poll bias is up there with ND fans complaining about it. It mostly shakes out in the end.

You’re generally quite tactful, Gig’em, and I commend for that but honestly, like three posts up, you denigrated A&M’s former SWC and Big 12 opposition.  If that’s not an implication that you think you’re SEC competition is superior to your former competition, I don’t know what is.  Why even disparage Baylor, Tech and Kansas St?
But when I say you’re not alone in thinking SEC competition is superior, I bewilder you.
Well, if that bewilders you, I guess we’re at an impasse.
Enjoy the SEC, enjoy disparaging SWC and Big 12 teams while denying that you think SEC competition is superior, enjoy being bewildered.  I’ll take a time out from this particular wildly bewildering conversation.

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« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2019, 03:30:14 PM »
Longhorn helmet fans CAN'T be complaining about poll bias after finishing in the top 10 with 4 losses
Oh yeah.  That’s never happened before.
Except for well last year when Auburn did it but I guess the unfair perception of the SEC kept anybody from raising their eyebrows until Texas did it so thank you for proving my point.  

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« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2019, 07:41:25 PM »
Well Hooky everything you see is burnt orange tinted and everything I see is maroon tinted so I agree that we're at an impasse.  

I enjoy our games in the SEC but I appreciate what you guys are saying about the regional rivalries.  I hope we're all still kicking in a dozen or so years when A&M and UT take the field against each other again and then maybe we can really have something to argue about.  

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« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2019, 10:25:28 PM »
Oh yeah.  That’s never happened before.
Except for well last year when Auburn did it but I guess the unfair perception of the SEC kept anybody from raising their eyebrows until Texas did it so thank you for proving my point.  
you are welcome, sir
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« Reply #96 on: January 20, 2019, 11:33:49 PM »
Well Hooky everything you see is burnt orange tinted and everything I see is maroon tinted so I agree that we're at an impasse.  

I enjoy our games in the SEC but I appreciate what you guys are saying about the regional rivalries.  I hope we're all still kicking in a dozen or so years when A&M and UT take the field against each other again and then maybe we can really have something to argue about.  
You are a good guy, my friend. Always level-headed, never angered.  Hope I can get down to Brazoria county this auditing season to buy you a beer.  I may have to kick somebody out of the Angleton trip. That may be the closest I can get.
PS - I hate the Celtics, the Red Sox and the Patriots.   Why can’t we build a wall around Boston?

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Re: Major Applewhite out at U of H ?
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2019, 03:21:44 AM »
That we can agree on my friend.  

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« Reply #98 on: January 22, 2019, 01:19:33 PM »
I don't have any reason to dislike the people of Boston or the fans of Boston sports teams.

But I absolutely loathe Philadelphia Eagles fans.  They're the worst.

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« Reply #99 on: January 22, 2019, 01:34:04 PM »
I like Boston and I hope they kick the Rams butt
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2019, 02:04:42 PM »
I like Boston, I have Patriots gear I will be wearing to the Super Bowl party from my friends in Boston

but, I'll be rooting for the Rams

Brady has enough rings
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« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2019, 02:21:45 PM »
I like Boston, I have Patriots gear I will be wearing to the Super Bowl party from my friends in Boston

but, I'll be rooting for the Rams

Brady has enough rings
how socialist of you
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« Reply #102 on: January 22, 2019, 02:32:07 PM »
like last year, I will probably be the only person at the party that does not hate the Pats.

Works for me as I enjoy stirring things up and being contrary!
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« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2019, 03:17:18 PM »
Oh yeah, I'm tired of the Pats winning so much simply because it's boring.  I feel similarly about Nick Saban and Alabama.  But I don't have any specific reasons to dislike the Pats or the Tide.  Pats fans and Alabama fans I've met and known in real life have all been good people.

I'll be rooting for the Rams but doubt I'll watch much of the game.  I tend to get my drinks and snacks during the game, and focus on the commercials for my Superbowl entertainment.

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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2019, 10:44:48 AM »
How much longer is Shaka Smart going to last?  :smiley_confused1:

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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2019, 12:27:04 PM »
How much longer is Shaka Smart going to last?  :smiley_confused1:

Who??

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« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2019, 05:27:23 PM »
think hoops
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« Reply #107 on: January 31, 2019, 01:24:11 PM »
think hoops

Schools that wear blue play that.

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« Reply #108 on: January 31, 2019, 03:46:01 PM »
I understand, was just providing the clue

so, in other words, it's not worth looking into
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« Reply #109 on: February 05, 2019, 11:51:44 AM »
Oh yeah, I'm tired of the Pats winning so much simply because it's boring.  I feel similarly about Nick Saban and Alabama.  But I don't have any specific reasons to dislike the Pats or the Tide.  Pats fans and Alabama fans I've met and known in real life have all been good people.

I'll be rooting for the Rams but doubt I'll watch much of the game.  I tend to get my drinks and snacks during the game, and focus on the commercials for my Superbowl entertainment.
that's just cause you haven't met me in person yet.
also, after all the shit i talked about applewhite earlier in this thread, looks like he might be back on bama staff, lol. he interviewed last week as an analyst apparently.

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Re: Major Applewhite out at U of H ?
« Reply #110 on: February 05, 2019, 02:42:34 PM »
So, I have a friend who cheers for the Pats because in his own words, he "likes to support a winner" ... he was visiting not too long ago (he's actually the husband of a dear friend of my dear wife's, and they were visiting us all the way from Portland, which was a great boost for the morale of my precious wife, and it was darned nice of them) and talked about how great the NE dynasty, Brady, Belichick, etc all were, and basically just how fun it was to be alive while the Pats were doing so well.  And, no, this is not Fearless.

It turns out he is from LA, and so during the SB, I texted them asking, okay, so is this the point where you actually break down and cheer for the home team?  He's old enough to have a strong memory of Roman Gabriel etc from the earlier version of the LA Rams, and if I'm not mistaken grew up an LA fan.   Then of course the Rams left LA, so I kind of get his need to find a new team, but you know the Rams are back now.  

Anyway, it turns out, that, no, he was on the edge of his seat cheering for Brady to bring home their 6th trophy, with no thought about LA or the Rams.

Now, how should we classify my friend?  The quintessential bandwagoner?  I mean, he is loyal to the Pats since they started winning (but I don't know if he was a fan back when they were mediocre, i.e. pretty much all of their history in the 1900's) ... so my take is that he's picking the best team and cheering for them.  It just seems too easy.

As a lifelong Cardinals (mlb), Sooners (cfb) and Cowboys (nfl) fan, I've never ever cheered for anyone else, including during the 70s and 90s for StL, the 90s for OU, and pretty much for the rest of time for the Boys.  I don't care how good your team might be some of the time, there will be long periods in which they are at best mediocre.  As Sundance would say Now that's a law.

So, for me, despite my friend otherwise being a pretty decent fellow, I can't respect this Pats thing he has.

But, am I being too hard on the guy?  
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« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2019, 04:16:59 PM »
to me, bandwagoners are defined by where they are when the team sucks.

just because you became a fan during an incredible run doesn't make you a bandwagoner, just lucky. if you stay a fan after the good times and through the bad ones, then you're a fan.

but if you drop that team for another or decide the sport is stupid or life has more important things to worry about that boring sports or whatever when that team starts sucking, then you're a bandwagoner. 

your friends just hasn't been tested yet, though the la rams thing is a decent sign in his favor.

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« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2019, 04:34:59 PM »
Yep. Being a fan isn't a yes/no thing. It's a spectrum, and the only way to move up on that spectrum is to be tested, like rolltidefan said.

I fell into college football in general and the Texas Longhorns in particular in 1990 as a freshman. Before that, I had other things to do. Of course, I didn't know it at the time, but the 1990 season was a bright point in an otherwise long stretch of relative mediocrity. However, I identified with my tribe, and felt a loyalty. I raged at the bad and reveled in the good. I was working when Dawson made his 98 yard FG into a fresh gale to beat UVa, but I ran outta my hole yelling. I stood there through every second of Route-66. I met the team after James Brown rolled left. I tried not to break the TV when the Sooners tossed TD passes at will for, like, 5 years in a row.

Even so, I'm a relative late comer and I know it. There's many Longhorn fans that have seen better and worse. That's just the way that is.

Jerry Jones ruined the NFL for me by pulling back the covers and showing me that no one really cares about records as long as the bank account is bigger at the end.

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Re: Major Applewhite out at U of H ?
« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2019, 07:46:18 AM »
Myself I have a much more radical view of the whole thing.  You see, I don't believe in rooting for any team at all until they are winning.  Why would you waste all your time rooting for somebody like the Browns or Lions year after year while they're spinning their wheels stuck at 2-4 wins per season for decades?  You don't buy a stock low and wait around for it to go lower do you?  Eventually, even though the stock looks like a winner with potential, you realize you made a horrible mistake and you need to dump it to recoup at least some of your money.  

I feel the same way about PRO sports teams.  All the players are being paid millions of dollars (most of them), they aren't loyal to any one team (why should they be?), and sometimes it seems as if the team isn't even in step with their own fanbase.  Oh of course then you get called a bandwagon fan or fair weather fan but damn how many of you guys want to play golf on a 100* deg day or 45 deg day?  

Why should some sucky, mediocre team benefit from your support when they are terrible year after year?  By not following or rooting for a team you're actually doing them a favor, forcing them to change.  

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« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2019, 09:32:38 AM »
How about Vince Young?     Another bad decision. Will he still be employed by the LHN after this? 

 https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/05/vince-young-arrested-drunk-driving/

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« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2019, 07:56:57 PM »
So, I have a friend who cheers for the Pats because in his own words, he "likes to support a winner" ... 
So, for me, despite my friend otherwise being a pretty decent fellow, I can't respect this Pats thing he has.

But, am I being too hard on the guy?  
he's obviously a bandwagon fan, he jumped on when the Pats started winning
now, he could redeem himself by continuing to root for the Pats after Brady and Belichick retire and the Pats struggle
I hope he stays with the Pats after the glory years and redeems himself, but I'd bet money that he bails on them and picks up another "winner"
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« Reply #116 on: February 07, 2019, 08:12:15 AM »
My nephew became a Ravens fan when they won the Superbowl.  He also briefly liked Tampa Bay.  He went through a couple of Giants phases, too.  You draw the conclusion.

But really for NFL teams (and other pro teams) I don't hold people too accountable for their allegiance.  Pro sports are laundry leagues anyway.  Does it make sense to like a team simply because of geographical proximity?  Or similarly, to dislike one for the same reason?

College affiliation is a lot more deeply rooted and important in my observation and opinion.  


 

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